Alliterated Area Again

Geometry Level 2

A square and an equilateral triangle have the same perimeter. If the area of the triangle is 16 3 16 \sqrt{3} , what is the area of the square?


The answer is 36.

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33 solutions

Let a a be the side of the triangle and b b the side of the square. We know that 3 a = 4 b 3a=4b .

Now, the area of the triangle is given by a 2 3 4 \dfrac{a^2\sqrt{3}}{4} , so a 2 3 4 = 16 3 a 2 4 = 16 a 2 = 64 \dfrac{a^2\sqrt{3}}{4}=16\sqrt{3} \Longrightarrow \dfrac{a^2}{4}=16 \Longrightarrow a^2=64 . Hence, a = 8 a=8 .

We have: 3 ( 8 ) = 4 b b = 3 ( 8 ) 4 = 6 3(8)=4b \Longrightarrow b=\dfrac{3(8)}{4}=6 .

Finally, the area of the square is b 2 b^2 , so the area is 6 2 = 36 6^2=\boxed{36} .

sir can u explain how 3a=4b???? if u can plz explain.

Sherif Eldore - 6 years, 9 months ago

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(a) is one side of the triangle so its perimeter is 3a ,and (b) is one side of the square so its perimeter is 4b ,and since the square and the equilateral triangle have the same perimeter SO 3a=4b ...

Eslam Mohammed - 6 years, 8 months ago

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It wasnt mentioned the triangle was equilateral!!!

Vishnu Cb - 6 years, 7 months ago

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@Vishnu Cb Why have you joined brilliant When you have nothing in your head

Soumyajit Maity - 5 years, 11 months ago

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@Soumyajit Maity No need to insult people with more difficulty than yourself!

Carol Blyth - 5 years, 9 months ago

@Soumyajit Maity The matter is not the amount in the head but the want to learn, which should never be ridiculed.

Jon Parry - 5 years, 5 months ago

@Soumyajit Maity He is just asking his doubts, what is your problem?

Debmeet Banerjee - 5 years, 7 months ago

bec perimetre of eqilateral triangle = side +side+side while perimeter of square = side +side + side+ side he expressed 3a = 3 side of triangle 4b= 4 side of square in the problem he said the perimetre of eqilateralt triangle = perimetr of square

Omar Nader - 6 years, 9 months ago

its given in the question!

Himmat Singh - 6 years, 8 months ago

perimeter is equal to the sum of the sides of any certain polygon,, since the given are 2 equilateral polygons ,, u can just multiply the triangle's side by three since it has three equal sides(3a)rather than summing up all its side,, (though it's the same),,and same case as the square,,

Eric Pineda - 6 years, 8 months ago

The question states "The perimeter of the triangle is equal to the perimeter of the square" the perimeter of the square = 4xa(length of its side) ; The perimeter of triangle = 3xb(length of its sides, if its an equilateral triangle ,else sum of all its sides ).

I hope it helped ! :)

Akash Pi - 6 years, 7 months ago

yes. given is that both the perimeters r equal.therefore sum of sides of a triangle i.e, perimeter(3a) is equal to the perimeter of square (4b).

Gokul Aarnav - 6 years, 6 months ago

Letting a as triangle with 3 side hence 3a then letting b as square with 4 side thus 4b

Solrac Pinnacle - 6 years, 5 months ago

if one side of the triangle is take as 'a' then the perimeter is 'a+a+a=3a' and if the side of the square of the square is taken as 'b' the its perimeter is taken as 'b+b+b+b=4b' and since from the question it is said that the perimeter of the square and the square is same it can be written as '3a=4b'

Felix K James - 6 years, 4 months ago

area of equilateral triangle is root(3)side^2 / 4

A Former Brilliant Member - 5 years, 8 months ago

We can do it in this way too ... If we divide the triangle into 2 right triangles, and so, we can divide a square into 4 right triangles... which is nothing but two times the area of triangle ... that is 2 \ times 16\sqrt{3} which is precisely 35.46 ... So the exact answer is 35.46

Joseph Jefries - 6 years, 5 months ago

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@Joseph Jefries I don't think you can state that 1/2 the triangle is the same area as 1/4 of the square - it may look like that but I don't think the drawing but your exact and precise answer of 35.46 is actually wrong - the correct answer is 36 - as has already been shown.

Tony Flury - 5 years, 9 months ago

WELL READ IT TO UNDERSTAND HOW THAT GUY SOLVED IT ABOVE MATHEMATICALLY IN STEPS ..........ALTHOUGH THAT WAS SUFFICIENT TO UNDERSTAND!!!!!!!

Perimeter means boundary length of the enclosed figure , so for a triangle with all sides equal (i.e an equilateral triangle) ,say "a" , perimeter is (a+a+a= 3a) & for the square with all sides equal( which is trivial) , say "b" , perimeter is ( b+b+b+b= 4b ) Also according to question perimeter of the square is given equal to that of the equilateral triangle. So this results into an equation either 3a = 4b or you can also write 4b = 3a . Further it is also given that area of the equilateral triangle is 16√3. So what one must know to solve this question is that the area of equilateral triangle is calculated by this formula √3/4 × side^2,( i.e here it will be √3/4 a^2) & by equating this to value of area of the triangle you will then be able to find the unknown "a= side of the triangle ", which will come out after some rearrangement as (a = 8) , & then the value of 3a = perimeter of the triangle , which will come out to be 3×8 = 24 . This you will again use to solve the equation 3×a = 4×b , as L.H.S is now 24, hence 24 = 4×b , again this gives b = 24/4 = 6 . Therefore we get side of the square "b" = 6 , & finally the area of the square = b^2 = b×b = 6^2 = 6×6 = 36 , WHICH IS FINALLY THE ANSWER !!!! STILL IF YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND , ASK YOURSELVES WHAT IS WRONG WITH ME..................

Parichay Sharma - 6 years, 4 months ago

can anyone explain step after 3a=4b... i m not geting it propely

Shaibaaz Mansuri - 6 years, 7 months ago

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area of triangle= 1 2 b a s e × h e i g h t \frac12 base\times height

b a s e = a base=a

h e i g h t = a × s i n ( 60 ) = a 3 2 height=a\times sin(60) =\frac{a\sqrt{3}}{2}

the height is the vertical component of "a"

and the angle equals 60 because it's an equilateral triangle

Ahmed Obaiedallah - 5 years, 11 months ago

Why between 4?? If the area of a triangle is base x height between 2...

Christian Orsos - 5 years, 7 months ago

sir can u explain how 3a=4b???? if u can plz explain...

Hayam Senior - 6 years, 9 months ago

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the triangle has 3 sides and the square has 4, and both have an equal perimeter

Sean Nozari - 6 years, 9 months ago

Assume a and is the side of the triangle and the square respectively, then their perimeter is a+a+a and b+b+b+b given the formula, we have 3.a = 4.b. I got it but I got the wrong result, stupid me! Any one got the same problem, you know how to do it but you don't get mark for the wrong conclusion?

Nguyễn Thị Hồng Miên - 6 years, 9 months ago

i got that....

Hayam Senior - 6 years, 9 months ago

Why is the area of triangle a^2 * √3 / 4 ? I used the try and error method.

Hon Ming Rou - 6 years, 9 months ago

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area = 1/2 * a * a * sin 60 = a^2 * √3 / 4

Manish Phukan - 6 years, 9 months ago

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Thank you.

Hon Ming Rou - 6 years, 8 months ago

What Manish mentioned was the vertical component of "a" which represents the height a further simplification is to consider that height and solve by Pythagoras

Ahmed Obaiedallah - 5 years, 11 months ago

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Oh... haven't thought of that... Thanks a lot!

Hon Ming Rou - 5 years, 11 months ago

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@Hon Ming Rou you're welcome

Ahmed Obaiedallah - 5 years, 11 months ago

Write a comment or ask a question... Nice! I got lost on my rules of math 36

Melany Moore - 6 years, 9 months ago

damn. i used to use heron's formula. but the solution is just as simple as that. tsk!

Jaymund Ostonal - 6 years, 8 months ago

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Heron's formula is too tedious imo lol.

Sam Maltia - 5 years, 8 months ago

Hi sir. Can you explain at least briefly how "a^2 * √3" / 4 is derived? Thank you.

Lenal Colia - 6 years, 8 months ago

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Area of triangle= 1/2 x a x a sin 60

Dondochakka Birstanne - 6 years, 8 months ago

wow!! thanks a lot.!!

Christian Dialino - 6 years, 8 months ago

your soLution is correct but i didnt know how did you get the 3a = 4b.

Christian Dialino - 6 years, 8 months ago

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it's said that the perimeter is the same

Dondochakka Birstanne - 6 years, 8 months ago

Why did I get a different answer when I used heron's formula for finding the area of the triangle? Is it not applicable or is there something I did wrong or something else? Just curious

Joram San Buenaventura - 6 years, 8 months ago

how can u say that the given triangle is equilateral....

Abhay Singh - 5 years, 7 months ago

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It says in the question

callum ilkiw - 5 years, 7 months ago

My solution was exactly the same.

Debmeet Banerjee - 5 years, 7 months ago

Does equal symbol means both have same area? The triangle looks equailateral but does the question specifies it?

Dilip Kumar - 6 years, 9 months ago

what is the answer of this question?

Priyanshu Anjaan - 6 years, 9 months ago

sir, how is that "Now, the area of the triangle is given by a^2 sq. root of 3 divided by 4" ? i really didn't get that.

Jaymund Ostonal - 6 years, 8 months ago
Ângelo Mendonça
Sep 15, 2014

Area of Triangle = ( 1 / 2 ) B a s e H e i g h t (1/2) * Base * Height

Side of Triangle = X

Height = ( s q r t 3 sqrt{3} /2 ) * X

Area = (1/2) * Height * X

Area = s q r t 3 sqrt{3} /4 * X 2 X^2

Solve = s q r t 3 sqrt{3} /4 * X 2 X^2 ­=16 * s q r t 3 sqrt{3}

we get X= 8

3 8 3 * 8 = 4 S i d e o f S q u a r e 4 * Side of Square

Side of Square = 6

6 2 6^2 = 36 square units.

The area of triangle with side a a is given by:

A = 1 2 a ( 3 a 2 ) = 3 a 2 4 A_{\triangle} = \dfrac{1}{2} a \left( \dfrac{\sqrt{3}a}{2} \right) = \dfrac{\sqrt{3}a^2}{4} .

Since A = 16 ( 3 ) A_\triangle = 16\sqrt(3)

3 a 2 4 = 16 ( 3 ) a 2 = 64 \Rightarrow \dfrac{\sqrt{3}a^2}{4} = 16\sqrt(3)\quad \Rightarrow a^2 = 64

Now the area of square, A = ( 3 a 4 ) 2 = 9 × 64 16 = 36 A_\square = \left( \dfrac{3a}{4} \right)^2 = \dfrac{9\times 64}{16} = \boxed{36}

where did you get the sqrt3a/2 ?

Joshua Philip Pawaon Osnan - 6 years, 8 months ago

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He used Pythagoras on the equilateral triangle to determine the height which is sqrt3a/2

If "a" is the side of the triangle, a^2 - (a/2)^2=h^2 which simplifies to sqrt(3a)/2

Ethan Godden - 5 years, 11 months ago
Adrian Setiawan
Sep 6, 2014

Area of the triangle : x . 1/2 . x . √3 . 1/2 = 16 . √3

x . x = 64

x = 8

Perimeter of the triangle : 3 . x = 24

3 . 8 = 24

Length of side of the square : 24 . 1/4 = 6

Area of the square : 6 . 6 = 36

Damoder Katariya
Sep 17, 2014

Let the side of the equilateral triangle be a.

Put the heron formula of triangle to find area.

Area of triangle = √(s(s-a)(s-b)(s-c)) = 16√3

Where a b c are the sides of triangle since triangle is equilateral then all sides are a.

s=(a+b+c)/2

In this case s = 3a/2

Now

Putting the values

16√3 = √(s〖(s-a)〗^3 )

Now putting value of s in terms of a

16√3 = √(3a/2〖(3a/2-a)〗^3 )

16√3 = √(3a/2 〖(3a/2-a)〗^3 )

16√3 = √(3a/2 〖(a⁄2)〗^3 )

16√3= √(〖3a〗^4/16)

16√3 = a^2/4 √3

a^2 = 16√3 x 4/√3

a = 8

now perimeter of triangle and square is equal

3a = 4x where x = side of square

3a = 8 x 3 = 24

Therefore 24 = 4x

x = 6

area of square = x^2

= 6 x 6 = 36

Area of square is 36

Taif Ahmad
Sep 11, 2014

sqrt A root3/4=16 root3 =>sqrt A=16 4 =>A= 4 2= 8

3A=4X =>X=3A/4= 3*8/4=6 =>sqrt X= 36

Ashwani Ponia
Sep 10, 2014

Let the side of the square be x and that of triangle be y. A/Q 3y=4x. ----------(1) now area of an equilateral triangle is sqrt(3)/4 (side) (side); there fore the value of x can be calculated by using the above formula. it is given that area of triangle is 16sqrt(3); so from this we calculate that y=8; now putting the values in eq 1; we get x=3 8/4; x=6; area of square = (side) (side); hence area=6*6=36;

Mr. Ashwani Ponia as i follow and analyze your solution and by getting the value of y=8; by putting the values in eq 1; 3y=4x if y=8 then 3(8)=4x therefore x=6 and not x=3

renato gonzales - 6 years, 6 months ago
Krishna Garg
Sep 7, 2014

From equlateral triangle of base 2a say,we can find height of triangle that is from pependicular from vertex to base ,will be underroot 3 a.so area of triangle is underroot 3 X a^2( given as 16 underroot 3..This means perimeter of square is 3a,so each side is 3/4 a.( therefore, side of square is 6 since16 underroot 3 = 9a^2)) so with this area of square is 6 x6=36 square

Kavita Dhami
Sep 6, 2014

Area of equilateral triangle =√3/4 a^2=16√3 Therefore a=8 Perimeter of triangle 24=4 side of square Therefore side of square = 6 Area = 6*6=36

Krishna Chaitu
Nov 18, 2015

Area of triangle is √3/4 a a so equate it to 16√3 we get a as 8 so perimeter equal to 8*3=24equate it to perimeter of square so we get side equal to 6 now area of square=36

David Orrell
Oct 30, 2015

The relationship between the height of an equilateral triangle and its side length is important. Taking one of the two right angled triangles that make up this equilateral triangle, we can label the longer leg as h h , the shorter leg as 1 2 b \frac{1}{2}b and the hypotenuse as b b .

By Pythagoras' theorem:

( 1 2 b 2 ) + h 2 = b 2 (\frac{1}{2}b^{2}) + h^{2} = b^{2}

h 2 = 3 4 b 2 h^{2} = \frac{3}{4}b^{2}

h = ( 3 ) 2 b h = \frac{\sqrt(3)}{2}b

The area of a triangle is equal to half times the base times height:

A T = 1 2 b h = 1 2 b ( 3 2 b ) = 3 4 b 2 ) A_{T} = \frac{1}{2}bh = \frac{1}{2}b(\frac{\sqrt{3}}{2}b) = \frac{\sqrt{3}}{4}b^{2})

From the information given in the question:

3 4 b 2 = 16 3 \frac{\sqrt{3}}{4}b^{2} = 16\sqrt{3}

b 2 = 64 b^{2} = 64

b = 8 b = 8 or b = 8 b = -8

Reject the latter as a length must be positive

The perimeter of the square is the same as the perimeter of the triangle.

P T = 8 3 = 24 P_{T} = 8*3 = 24

P S = 24 P_{S} = 24

The side length of the square is the perimeter divided by 4

L S = 6 L_{S} = 6

The area of the square is the side length squared

A S = 36 A_{S} = \boxed{36}

Samar Singh
Sep 23, 2015

Area of equilateral triangle= √3÷4×(side)²=16√3 So . side=8cm Perimeter of equilateral triangle = 24 Hence . perimeter of square= 24 So , side of square = 6cm Hence, area of square = side×side = 36 cm²

Pawan Mishra
Aug 24, 2015

From the data for area of the triabgle, we get the side of the triangle as 8. Which translates to a perimeter of 24. Therefore the side of the square has to be 6 ( p=4s) .

Area of the square therefore is s^2 I.e. 36

Juan Almenara
Aug 23, 2015

Sea "a" el costado del cuadrado y "b" el costado del triangulo:

Perímetros iguales: 3b = 4a ...(E1)

Área del triangulo= base x altura/2=b x (b x raíz(3)/2)/2 = 16 x raíz(3)

b=8 ...(E2) -->(E1): a=3 x 8/4=6;

Área del cuadrado= a x a = 6 x 6=36.

Owen Leong
Aug 9, 2015

Let the equilateral triangle be of side length l.

Using the sine formula for areas of triangles,

16√3 = (l^2 sin60˚)/2

Solving this gives l = 8,

Then the length of a side of the square is l*3/4 = 6.

The area of the square is 6^2 = 36.

Soham Bhowmick
Jul 12, 2015

Let the side of the triangle be t and the side of the square be s

So, we know that 3t=4s

Therefore, t=4/3s

Now, given 3 \sqrt {3} / 4 t 2 t^{2} = 16 3 \sqrt {3}

So, t=8

And, t=4/4s , so s=3/4 X 8, i.e, 6

So, Area of square=* s 2 s^{2} = 36 *

John Taylor
Mar 31, 2015

Because 3a=4b the perimeters must be multiples of 12. Having a perimeter of 12 does not satisfy the second requirement that the area of the equilateral triangle must be 16 x sqrt3. (One can verify this using Heron's Formula.) However a perimeter of 24 satisfies both requirements. 24/4 equals 6, therefore the area of the square is 6 x 6+ 36 units.

Jeny Jeny-Us
Dec 20, 2014

16√3=(√3/4)x² x²=64 x=8 So perimeter of triangle = 24 So each side of square = 6 Area of square = 6 × 6 = 3

1)letX be the side of the□and Y for △. you know that 4x=3y.
2)the area of △is ½Y*L(l is the triangle height )
3)L=√(¾Y²) .so a for△ is √(3/4Y²)=16√3
4)Y=8..X=6 ..a for□=36


Wisher Pge
Dec 10, 2014

16 sqrt3 = (sqrt3 /4) a^2 a^2 = 64 a= 8(length of triangle) area of square = [(8*3)/4]^2 =36

Angel Lopez
Nov 9, 2014

A=1/2 a(\sqrt{3a}\frac{2})=\sqrt{3a^{2}}\frac{4} then; A=16\sqrt{3} => \sqrt{3a^{2}}\frac{4}=16\sqrt{3a}=>a^{2}=64 Now The area of a Square is A = (\sqrt{3a}\frac{2})^2=9*64\frac{16}=\boxed{36}

Deepu V.M
Oct 10, 2014

herons formula s=a+b+c+/2

area=sqroot(s(s-a)(s-b)(s-c)) here equilateral triangle so.......s=3c/2.......... solving,,,,,,,,,,,=(16^2) 3=3c/2 1/8*c^3 ....c=8......... perimetr=24.................. square side....=6 ...........area 36

Georges Dimitry
Oct 2, 2014
Vinit Béléy
Sep 26, 2014

Area of equilateral triangle = √3 / 4 * a^2, where a is the side of triangle Therefore, 16√3 = √3 / 4 * a^2 a = 8

Since perimeters are same, let 'b' be the side of the square hence,
3a = 4b b = 6

Area = b^2 = 36

Jimmy McCreary
Sep 12, 2014

just guess.common sense goes along way.

Casiel Monfils
Sep 7, 2014

if T is the side of the triangle, and S is the side of the square then we get that 3T=4S, also we knoe that the area of a triangle is base height/2, and this equals to 16sqr(3), so we use pythagoras to get that T/2 T/2 sqr(3)=16 sqr(3), so we get that T=4, now we substitue with 3T=4S, which would be S=3T/4, substituting we get 3*8/4 which is S=6, now 6^2=36 WHICH IS THE AREA OF THE SQUARE

let a is the side of equilateral triangle and q is the side of square then, perimeter of Triangle will be 3a and the perimeter of square will be 4q. Now, Area of triangle = sqrt {s (s-a) (s-b) (s-c)} where, s=(a+b+c)/2 Here a=b=c, so s=3a/2 and (s-a) = a/2 , putting these values in above formula we get area of triangle (a^2) (3^1/2)/4 = 16 (3^1/2) given. a=8. In question it is also given that 3a=4q therefore q=6 and area of square = 6*6 =36 Ans.

Griffin Forsgren
Sep 7, 2014

let 2x be the length of one of the sides of the triangle. our area is 1/2(2x)(x(sqrt(3))), or x^2(sqrt(3))=16sqrt(3). Therefore, x^2 = 16, or x = 4 (since length is positive). The side of the triangle is 8 and the perimeter is 24. Since the square has the same perimeter, the length of one sides is 24/4, or 6. The area, it follows, is 6^2, or our answer of 36.

Mainul Mobin
Sep 7, 2014

sqr((3)/4)a^2=16sqr(3)=>a=8=>3a=24=>3a/4=24/4=>x=6=>x^2=36 is the answer

Aravind M
Sep 7, 2014

(sqrt(3)/4) ((side)^2)= 16 sqrt(3)==> giving side of equil triangle as 8 units.==>perimeter =8*3=24 units. but this 24 equals perimeter of the given square giving side of square as (24)/4= 6 units... Hence area of square = 6^2= 36 sq. units... :)

Shaurya Garg
Sep 6, 2014

Let x be the side of the triangle and y the side of the square.

3x=4y --------------a

and (sqroot of 3* x^2 )/4=16sq.root3

therefor x=8

a implies y=6 and

hence area of square is 6^2=36

this is simple and good as well.Thanks K.K.GARG,india

Krishna Garg - 6 years, 9 months ago

S(Triangle) = sqrt(p (p-a) (p-b) (p-c)) p = (a+b+c)/2 a=b=c(equilateral) S(Triangle) = [a^2 sqrt(3)]/4 16 sqrt(3) = [a^2 sqrt(3)]/4 a = 8

a+b+c = 4x (triangle perimeter = square perimeter) 3a = 4x x = 6

x^2 = 36 (square area)

Antonio Fanari
Sep 6, 2014

Let Lt, Ls, Pt, Ps, At, As, rispectively:

the side of the equilater triangle, the side of the square, the

perimeter of the triangle, the perimeter of the square, the

area of the triangle, the area of the square; we have:

At = 16√3; Pt = Ps, As = ? (question);

Pt = Ps, => 3Lt = 4Ls;

At = 16√3 = (1/2)Lt^2√3/2 = √3Lt^2/4;

Lt^2/4 = 16; Lt^2 = 64; Lt = 8;

Ls = (3/4)Lt = 3*8/4 = 6; As = 6^2 = 36

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