Ascending Balloon

The density of helium is lower than that of air. As a result, when a helium balloon is released, it floats up into the sky (see buoyancy ).

What happens to the volume of the helium balloon as it rises up?

Assume

  • the balloon is made of an excellent thermal insulator, so no heat enters or leaves the balloon;
  • the balloon is tied properly so that gases cannot enter or leave the balloon.

Its volume increases Its volume remains the same Its volume decreases

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28 solutions

The atmospheric pressure decreases while the balloon rises, but the pressure inside the balloon remains the same all the time. It means that the atmospheric pressure becomes weaker than the internal pressure of the balloon and the ballon will expand.

If on the ground it is a low pressure system and above it floats several miles into a high pressure system, then the volume should decrease. Simply going up does not determine the relative pressure compared to what it was inflated at on the ground. The air may be less dense at higher altitudes; that does not equate to consistent lower pressure relative to "ground level".

Damon Fryauff - 3 years, 4 months ago

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Air pressure decreases with increasing altitude. This is because air pressure can be measured as the amount of air "on top" of a given section. At a higher altitude, there is less air "on top" of the balloon, so less force. It has less to do with air density.

Zain Majumder - 3 years, 4 months ago

The pressure inside wouldn't remain the same - if it did then the volume would remain the same, since the mass of the balloon and the helium inside is a constant. As the external pressure decreases, the volume of the balloon will increase in order to lower the internal pressure and thereby maintain a stable equilibrium.

Stewart Gordon - 3 years, 4 months ago

I basically agree with you Victor except the point that the pressure inside the balloon becomes greater than the atmospheric pressure. That depends. But yes I would say that the pressure inside the balloon stays the same, but the ratio of the pressure inside the balloon to outside the balloon would increase :).

Jesse Boldt - 3 years, 4 months ago

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This is only true if the balloon is rigid and cannot expand. However, balloons are typically flexible, so that if a pressure difference exists between inside and outside, it will grow or shrink until the pressures are equal again.

Arjen Vreugdenhil - 3 years, 4 months ago

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I think that the pressure inside will actually be greater than the pressure outside, the difference being counterbalanced by the tension of the balloon material. But either way, the decreasing pressure outside still means that the balloon expands to maintain equilibrium.

Stewart Gordon - 3 years, 4 months ago

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@Stewart Gordon True. The surface tension of the balloon makes for a small pressure difference. If the balloon is sufficiently flexible, this difference will be small.

Arjen Vreugdenhil - 3 years, 4 months ago

Boyle's Law of thermodynamics 😎

Kenneth Joe Villamante - 3 years, 4 months ago

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Boyle's Law applies at constant temperature. However, the temperature will decrease, because as the balloon expands, it does work. This lowers the energy of the gas.

Arjen Vreugdenhil - 3 years, 4 months ago

I have seen that condition on a movie but I won't understand why but now I do know why. :) thanks man

Abhishek Kumar - 3 years, 4 months ago

Man your brilliant

Chante Benjamin - 3 years, 3 months ago
Timothy Samson
Feb 4, 2018

Imagine a balloon in the bottom of an ocean (which is more or less what is happening here, because air is a fluid). The pressure on the outside will squeeze the balloon. As the balloon rises, the water will squeeze on the balloon less so that the helium molecules can expand the balloon more. Therefore, the balloon increases in volume.

effect of temp?

ramaswamy vasudevan - 3 years, 4 months ago

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Under assumptions: "the balloon is made of an excellent thermal insulator, so no heat enters or leaves the balloon;"

Timothy Samson - 3 years, 4 months ago

its easy to misinterpret the question..ie.. the amount of helium in the balloon does not increase...but it does expand as the atmospheric pressure decreases... but there can be no more helium in the balloon than it was initially inflated with. Sooo...does volume refer to the "size of the balloon" or the "amount of helium in it"

Harvey Seigle - 3 years, 4 months ago

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Size of balloon. There is no mention to the amount of helium.

Timothy Samson - 3 years, 4 months ago
Andrew Gradman
Feb 4, 2018
  1. Equilibrium/ Boyle's law : The balloon's internal pressure must equal the ambient atmospheric pressure. Since helium is less dense than air, the balloon volume increases. (Further assumption: the balloon is made of an elastic/stretchy material.)
  2. Archimedes' Principle : This expansion will cause the balloon to rise.
  3. Atmospheric pressure: As the balloon rises, ambient atmospheric pressure decreases.
  4. From premise #1, the ambient pressure continues to decrease, and so the balloon will continue to expand ...

the temperature will get lower due to decrease in pressure.... balloon is perfectly insulated... is there any effect the lowering temperature can cause to the pressure equilibrium? or the equilibrium will always maintained without looking for change in temperature

Amandeep Jaglan - 3 years, 4 months ago

And then it will blow.

Esat Davutoğlu - 3 years, 4 months ago

PV=nRT , n is the same,R is constant, T is the same, but P decreases so V increases so the balloon will expand

Verina George - 3 years, 4 months ago

According to the ideal gas law, P V = n R T PV = nRT where P is pressure, V is volume, n is the number of moles, R is the ideal gas constant, and T is temperature. Given that the problem states that no heat enters or leaves the balloon and gases cannot enter or leave the balloon , n and T are constants. Thus the entire expression n R T nRT is constant, which means that at higher altitudes where atmospheric pressure is decreased, volume must increase. This was my first time publishing an answer, so I hope that this helped and I am not incorrect.

There is a small error in your answer, you assumed that the temperature will remain constant as the balloon is not getting/losing any heat. However, this will make the process adiabatic instead of Isothermal.

In adiabatic process, the following equations are used, P V γ = Constant PV^\gamma = \text{Constant} T V γ 1 = Constant TV^{\gamma -1} = \text{Constant}

Therefore, if volume increase, then, pressure and temperature decrease.

Rohit Gupta - 3 years, 4 months ago

The pressure of the gas in the balloon decreases. This causes the balloon to expand. The thermal expansion means that the temperature drops (even though no heat escapes!); this temperature drop reduces the expansion of the balloon, but does not prevent it completely.

This is an example of adiabatic expansion .

Surendran M V
Feb 7, 2018

As the ballon rises above ground level, the atmospheric pressure continuously reduces. As the external pressure on the balloon reduces, it expands and it's volume increases.

Vishal Gupta
Feb 7, 2018

The air pressure on surface of earth is greater and this pressure restricts the balloon's helium gas from expansion. As we move up in sky the air pressure decreases, so for balloon pressure keeps on decreasing thus helium starts expanding.

Kanishka Oshan
Feb 8, 2018

the balloon is goes up by the increasement helium

Randin Divelbiss
Feb 7, 2018

also not mentioned in any of the answers is gravity force . this force pushes down on the balloon, more specifically the center of mass of the balloon. as the balloon rises this force decreases since as we know the gravitational force between two objects ( in this case the earth & balloon) weakens the farther the objects are apart . thus with less gravitational force , the elastic balloon will expand out ward as it rises along with as other answers correctly point out , atmospheric pressure decreasing.

Anthony Wooley
Feb 7, 2018

The interior pressure remains the same but the pressure outside the balloon drops as it rises. With less and less exterior pressure the balloon expands till it pops.

Matthew Zachmann
Feb 6, 2018

eventually does the temperature drop to balance out, reduce effect, or reverse effect of lower atmospheric pressure?

As the heat is not exchanged between the surroundings and the balloon, the process that takes place in the gas is adiabatic. For adiabatic process, we can write the following equations

P V γ = Constant PV^\gamma = \text{Constant} T V γ 1 = Constant TV^{\gamma -1} = \text{Constant}

Therefore, if volume increase, then, pressure and temperature decrease.

Rohit Gupta - 3 years, 4 months ago
Rit Tak
Feb 5, 2018

Gases usually have more volume as the inter molecular space between the molecules are more hence they see to occupy more volume.In the above problem helium which is lighter is definitely having more inter molecular spacing than air,hence will more volume.

I think you misunderstood the problem. The problem does not compare the volume of helium to volume of air, it compares the volume of the balloon as it rises to high altitudes.

Rohit Gupta - 3 years, 4 months ago

At equilibrium, the gaseous pressure in the balloon equals to that of the atmosphere. As the balloon rises, the surrounding atmospheric pressure drops, so the gaseous pressure in the balloon also drops accordingly to equalize. Assuming there is no heat transfer between the helium in the balloon and air, there is no temperature change in the balloon. Since potential energy is conserved, the balloon expands according roughly to P V = c o n s t a n t PV = \ constant of an ideal gas. Therefore, its volume increases.

Zain Majumder
Feb 4, 2018

Remember that pressure = force area \text{pressure} = \frac{\text{force}}{\text{area}} .

At first, the internal pressure of the helium and the external pressure of the atmosphere will be equal. Atmospheric pressure is lower at higher altitudes, so the balloon must adjust accordingly. Although the balloon cannot change the atmospheric pressure, it can change the helium pressure by increasing area. When it does this, the denominator of the fraction becomes larger, so the pressure of the helium will decrease. The balloon must expand to make this change, so the volume will increase \boxed{\text{increase}} .

Nishant Dogra
Feb 10, 2018

As height increases pressure decreases due to which the inside of ballon will have a high air pressure and outside will have low air pressure. The property of fluids(gases and liquids) is that they will flow to low pressure from high pressure. Due to this the gas from high pressure will try to move from high pressure but since it is trapped in baloon it will exert force on ballon trying to expand and will eventually burst the ballon.

Yash Ghaghada
Feb 10, 2018

as we height increases the atmospheric pressure decreases, and as external pressure decreases, the helium gas will try to expand and balance its pressure with the atmospheric pressure at that particular height

Abhishek Kumar
Feb 10, 2018

I have seen that on a movie but not aware of fact why? well Victor Paes Plinio said it right!

Shibashis Das
Feb 10, 2018

This can be done by ideal gas equation but I got a question. I get that the atmospheric pressure decreases so volume increases according to PV=nRT but as you go up temperature also decreases so we should take that into account and so we cannot say volume increases with confidence. Yes, experimentally volume increases but without experimental data we can say for sure that volume increases

Ritika Manjrekar
Feb 9, 2018

As the altitude increases pressure decreases because there are very few air molecules Present in the atmosphere at higher altitude. And due to decrease in pressure the gas volume present in balloon will increase and the balloon will expand.

Prajul Prem
Feb 9, 2018

As it goes up pressure around it decreases thus the ballon inflates therefore volume increase

Emma Mellinger
Feb 8, 2018

What if we had a mylar balloon that could not expand? Then the balloon would rise until it was neutrally buoyant, with no volume change. The pressure inside the non-expandable ballon would remain constant.

Kenneth Wada
Feb 8, 2018

PV=nRT. where: P=pressure, V=volume, n=moles of gas(Helium), R=Rydberg constant and T=Temperature. For short elevations, T=constant. n=constant because the gas is in the balloon. R=physical constant ... Thus V is inversely proportional to P. Now, the balloon going up encounters a lower P ... and since we have this inverse relationship ... the volume (V) must increase as a result.

Vincent Mader
Feb 6, 2018

The ideal gas law states: pV=nRT Assuming the temperature T to be constant, the balloon‘s volume V will increase as the pressure p gets lower high up in the air.

Stand Tall
Feb 6, 2018

The pressure outside the balloon changes while the pressure within stays the same so it epands against the balloon as it rises so it expands that gives it a higher volume

Manish Bhatt
Feb 5, 2018

The volume of helium inside the balloon increases. Since the balloon is perfectly insulated and properly tied, heat does not effect the balloon, nor there is any air loss. Now as the balloon is released and it rises up the only effect it observes is reduction in atmospheric pressure as the pressure reduces the pressure of helium inside balloon rises and since the balloon is tied properly air can not dispense thus increases the volume.

Kelvin Rivera
Feb 5, 2018

First recall that density = mass/volume. Because the mass of the balloon is fixed, a decrease in volume corresponds to an increased density. This would actually cause the balloon to come back down, which doesn't happen, so the volume cannot decrease. Similarly, a constant volume corresponds to a constant density. This means that the balloon will rise until it reaches an altitude where its density matches the air and stays there. This also is inconsistent with reality, so the volume cannot stay constant. Therefore, it must increase.

Chenguang Zhou
Feb 5, 2018

This is not a solution, but a question. Would the same thing happen if the balloon were made of plastic or cardboard even? assuming it still able to float up. now that I'm think about it, how come spaceships don't expand or explode when going into space?

The pressure difference tries to expand the balloon, it depends on the strength of the material as to how much will they expand under a given pressure difference. For example, if you have two springs, one stiffer than the other and you try to extend them one by one with equal force, then, the stiffer spring will expand lesser than the softer spring. Similarly, how much the balloon expands will depend on the material of the balloon. Spaceships are made of tough materials which can easily bear this stress of pressure difference and they don't explode, but they are certainly under a stress.

Rohit Gupta - 3 years, 4 months ago

Boyle's Law, right?

No, because the heat can not travel due to the temperature difference as mentioned in the assumptions. The outside pressure decreases at higher altitudes and the inside pressure then exert force to increase the volume of the balloon.

Rohit Gupta - 3 years, 4 months ago

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