A ball with zero initial velocity falls from a height of n R near the vertical axis of symmetry on a concave spherical surface of radius R . Assuming that the collision is elastic, it is observed that the second impact of the ball is at the lowest point of the spherical surface. Determine the value of n to the nearest integer.
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Yes......great solution!!!
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A short approach.The required time can be calculated as t = R s i n θ / u s i n 2 θ
t = R / 2 u cos θ and R ( 1 − cos θ ) = − u sin 2 θ t + 1 / 2 g t 2 .
Put t and u 2 = 2 g H we get 1 = 1 / 2 cos θ + R / 1 6 H cos 2 θ .
So, if θ = 0 , then, H = R / 8 .
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Can you elaborate on your method? Specifically, the first line, what is t and how do you get its relation and the second equation as well. This will help others to follow your solution easily.
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@Rohit Gupta – t denotes the time from collision to where it hits next.And this follows as t =displacement along X direction / x component of velocity
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@Spandan Senapati – Thanks, for the clarification. Further to add, the X direction is the horizontal direction. The distance traveled in the horizontal direction between the two impacts is R sin θ and the horizontal component of velocity is u sin 2 θ . Dividing them we will get t = 2 u cos θ R .
Similarly, the second equation is written for the displacement in the vertical direction.
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@Rohit Gupta – Yes sir.. .thanks.I forgot to write that step of getting t
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Let point of collision make an angle x with centre with lim x->0. Let us assume that during collision and at the bottom most point of spherical surface its velocity was u and g is acceleration due to gravity. It can be assumed as an inclined projectile motion with inclination x with horizontal. When it strikes the bottom most point let it makes an angle θ with the incline plane.
Using condition for inclined projectile to strike and rebound vertically tan(θ)*tan(x)=1/3 .
Therefore θ-> π/2 - 3*x.
Range of projectile = S = 2 u^2/g * (sin(θ) cos(θ+x)/cos^2(x)) .
Using small angle approximation we get S-> 2 u^2/g * sin(2 x) = R*sin(x).
R/n = u^2/(2*g) = R/8.
Therefore n=8.
Could you explain how you got the formula tan ( θ ) tan ( x ) = 3 1 ?
Since we are making approximations, does this mean that if we drop the ball from 8 R , then the second impact of the ball will not be exactly at the lowermost point of the spherical surface?
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Let body projected up with speed u making angle θ with plane of inclination x. After rebounding vertically its velocity perpendicular to plane = u sin(θ). Therefore its net speed is u sin(θ) sec(x) before and after collision and it made angle (π/2-2 x) with horizontal before collision. Since during entire projectile motion, its horizontal velocity is same, u cos(x+θ) = u sin(θ) sec(x) cos(π/2-2 x) {initial=final}. thus giving tan(θ) tan(x)=1/3
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Let O denote the center of the sphere, L the lowest point on the sphere, D the point the ball is dropped from, B the point on the sphere the ball bounces, and θ : = ∡ L O B .
Since the ball falls from a height of R / n , its speed ∣ v ∣ immediately before impact at B will be given by m g ( n R ) = 2 1 m ∣ v ∣ 2 ⇒ ∣ v ∣ = n 2 g R and, since the collision is elastic, this will also be the speed immediately after the impact at B .
Now, since O L ∣ ∣ D B we know ∡ D B O = ∡ L O B = θ . Further, since the angle the ball's path makes with the normal O B is equal on both sides, we can conclude that the initial angle the ball's trajectory makes with the vertical is 2 θ . Letting L be the point ( 0 , 0 ) and B = ( R sin θ , R ( 1 − cos θ ) ) , we therefore find the following equations of motion for the ball after it bounces: x = R sin θ − ∣ v ∣ sin ( 2 θ ) t = R sin θ − n 2 g R sin ( 2 θ ) t y = R ( 1 − cos θ ) + ∣ v ∣ cos ( 2 θ ) t − 2 1 g t 2 = R ( 1 − cos θ ) + n 2 g R cos ( 2 θ ) t − 2 1 g t 2
Since the next time it collides with the sphere is at L , which is ( x , y ) = ( 0 , 0 ) , there will be some time t such that 0 = R sin θ − n 2 g R sin ( 2 θ ) t 0 = R ( 1 − cos θ ) + n 2 g R cos ( 2 θ ) t − 2 1 g t 2 and while we could just jump right into solving this, it's useful to make a simplification: if we change variables to u = t g / R , then these equations become 0 = R ( sin θ − n 2 sin ( 2 θ ) u ) 0 = R ( ( 1 − cos θ ) + n 2 cos ( 2 θ ) u − 2 1 u 2 ) and since R > 0 , we can divide both equation by R to find 0 = sin θ − n 2 sin ( 2 θ ) u 0 = ( 1 − cos θ ) + n 2 cos ( 2 θ ) u − 2 1 u 2
Solving this first equation for u yields u = 8 n sec θ and then substituting this into the second equation: 0 = ( 1 − cos θ ) + 2 1 cos ( 2 θ ) sec θ − 1 6 n sec 2 θ Solving this equation for n : n = 1 6 cos 2 θ ( ( 1 − cos θ ) + 2 1 cos ( 2 θ ) sec θ ) = 1 6 cos 2 θ ( 1 − cos θ ) + 8 cos ( 2 θ ) cos θ = 8 ( cos ( 2 θ ) + 1 ) ( 1 − cos θ ) + 8 cos ( 2 θ ) cos θ = 8 + 8 ( cos ( 2 θ ) − cos θ )
We see that n depends on θ , but since we're told that the ball starts near the vertical axis of symmetry, we may assume θ is small and therefore cos ( 2 θ ) ≈ 1 ≈ cos θ , so that n ≈ 8 + 8 ( 1 − 1 ) = 8 .