Bar, Ball, Cone

Geometry Level 2

A chocolate shop sells its products in 3 different shapes: a cylindrical bar, a spherical ball, and a cone. These 3 shapes are of the same height and radius, as shown in the picture. Which of these choices would give you the most chocolate?

I. A full cylindrical bar or II. A ball plus a cone \text{ I. A full cylindrical bar } \hspace{.4cm} \text{ or } \hspace{.45cm} \text{ II. A ball plus a cone }

A cylindrical bar because it has more volume. A ball plus a cone because the volume of the two is greater than just one. Not enough information. Doesn't matter. Both options have got the same amount.

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6 solutions

Since all the three have equal radius, let's set r = 1 \large r=1

Volume of the cylindrical bar: V c y l i n d e r = π r 2 h = π ( 1 2 ) ( 2 ) = 2 π \large V_{cylinder}=\pi r^2h=\pi(1^2)(2)=2 \pi

Volume of spherical ball: V s p h e r e = 4 3 π r 3 = 4 3 π ( 1 3 ) = 4 3 π \large V_{sphere}=\dfrac{4}{3} \pi r^3=\dfrac{4}{3} \pi (1^3)=\dfrac{4}{3} \pi

Volume of cone: V c o n e = 1 3 π r 2 h = 1 3 π ( 1 2 ) ( 2 ) = 2 3 π \large V_{cone}=\dfrac{1}{3} \pi r^2h=\dfrac{1}{3} \pi (1^2)(2)=\dfrac{2}{3} \pi

Compare:

V c y l i n d e r = V s p h e r e + V c o n e \large V_{cylinder} = V_{sphere} + V_{cone}

2 π = 4 3 π + 2 3 π \large 2 \pi = \dfrac{4}{3} \pi + \dfrac{2}{3} \pi

2 π = 2 π \large 2 \pi = 2 \pi

B o t h o p t i o n s h a v e t h e s a m e a m o u n t . \boxed{\color{#D61F06}\large \therefore Both~options~have~the~same~amount.}

This is my own solution but I closed my old account. I am using a new account now.

A Former Brilliant Member - 3 years, 4 months ago

The question is misleading. You should have also labeled the height components of each figure since I completely ignored height for the sphere: I get that you put "all 3 shapes" but still I do not associate height to a sphere. The sphere forces the height to be 2 times the radius. Hence, I got "not enough information" for my answer-wrong.

A Former Brilliant Member - 3 years, 1 month ago
Jamie Mackillop
Oct 18, 2015

Let us compute the volume of the two options and then compare.

Option 1: the cylindrical bar

The standard formula for the volume of a cylinder is π r 2 h \pi r^{2} h . In this case h=2r. Substituting this value in, the total volume for option 1 is 2 π r 3 2\pi r^{3}

Option 2: the ball and the cone

The standard formula for the volume of a ball (a sphere) is 4 3 π r 3 \frac43 \pi r^{3} . The standard formula for the volume of a cone is 1 3 π r 2 h \frac13 \pi r^{2} h . h=2r so the volume of the cone is 2 3 π r 3 \frac23 \pi r^{3} Thus the total volume for option 2 is 4 3 π r 3 + 2 3 π r 3 = 2 π r 3 \frac43 \pi r^{3} + \frac23 \pi r^{3} = 2 \pi r^{3}

Clearly the volume is the same for option 1 and option 2, thus it does not matter which option is chosen.

Yes, that's exactly correct.

Worranat Pakornrat - 5 years, 7 months ago

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Exactly where does it say h=2r in the problem? It says "These 3 shapes are of the same height and radius," but never specifies h=2r

James Sievers - 5 years, 4 months ago

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Well, the height of the sphere is its diameter, 2r. Would you agree?

Worranat Pakornrat - 5 years, 4 months ago

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@Worranat Pakornrat Ahhh yes...guess that didn't click in my brain at 5am...lol

James Sievers - 5 years, 4 months ago
Lucas Nascimento
Oct 18, 2015

It's due to the Cavaliere's Principle. When it has same height and radius, the sum of the volume of a sphere and a cone is the same as the volume of a cilinder.

Can you show us how you apply Cavalieri's Principle here... it does not seem straightforward.

Otto Bretscher - 5 years, 7 months ago

Thank you for your solution. I used to read about this concept a long time ago (with the half sphere visualization), but I didn't think it'd work for a whole sphere, too.

Worranat Pakornrat - 5 years, 7 months ago
D H
Dec 9, 2018

I did not want to work out the volumes of all the shapes, so I did this instead.

The volume of the cylinder is equal to the volume of the sphere plus two congruent cones of height r and base radius r. This is provable from a proof of the volume of a sphere.

All that remains to be shown is whether the volume of the two cones is greater than the single cone of double the height. It can be seen that 1 3 π r 2 2 r = 2 ( 1 3 π r 2 r ) \frac{1}{3} \pi r^2 \cdot 2r=2(\frac{1}{3} \pi r^2\cdot r) and therefore the volume of the cylinder is equal to the sum of the volume of the cone and the sphere.

Lu Chee Ket
Oct 23, 2015

With h = 2 r,

Pi (r^2) h = (4/ 3) Pi (r^3) + (1/ 3) Pi (r^2) h

as 2 = 4/ 3 + 2/ 3

Same total volume.

Achille 'Gilles'
Oct 22, 2015

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