Basic Algebra Test

Algebra Level 4

Given that

a b + c + b a + c + c a + b = 1 , \frac{ \color{#D61F06}{a}}{\color{#3D99F6}{b}+\color{#EC7300}{c}} + \frac{\color{#3D99F6}{b}} {\color{#D61F06}{a}+\color{#EC7300}{c}} + \frac{ \color{#EC7300}{c}}{\color{#D61F06}{a}+\color{#3D99F6}{b}} = 1,

find the value of

a 2 b + c + b 2 a + c + c 2 a + b . \large \frac{ \color{#D61F06}{a}^2}{\color{#3D99F6}{b}+\color{#EC7300}{c}} + \frac{ \color{#3D99F6}{b}^2}{\color{#D61F06}{a}+\color{#EC7300}{c}} + \frac{ \color{#EC7300}{c}^2} { \color{#D61F06}{a}+\color{#3D99F6}{b}}.


The answer is 0.

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22 solutions

Sean Ty
Jul 18, 2014

We rewrite the expression into

a b + c + b a + c + c a + b = a + b + c a + b + c \dfrac{a}{b+c}+\dfrac{b}{a+c}+\dfrac{c}{a+b}=\dfrac{a+b+c}{a+b+c} .

Multiplying both sides by a + b + c a+b+c , we get

a 2 b + c + a + b 2 a + c + b + c 2 a + b + c = a + b + c \dfrac{a^{2}}{b+c}+a+\dfrac{b^{2}}{a+c}+b+\dfrac{c^{2}}{a+b}+c=a+b+c .

Subtracting a + b + c a+b+c from both sides,

a 2 b + c + b 2 a + c + c 2 a + b = 0 \dfrac{a^{2}}{b+c}+\dfrac{b^{2}}{a+c}+\dfrac{c^{2}}{a+b}=\boxed{0} .

Edit: Oops! I didn't mean to copy the comment of Mr. Sahil. My computer was just so slow that I couldn't see the comment that time. So I thought there was no "proper" solution for this. And instead placed mine. Hope this resolves any misconceptions (I guess).

It had 99 votes. I just had to vote it up.

Julian Poon - 6 years, 8 months ago

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And now it has just 5 less than a double century.

Mehul Arora - 5 years, 8 months ago

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Infact 3 xD

Anik Mandal - 5 years, 8 months ago

And now, It's wayy over 4 centuries. I think this might be the most upvoted solution on Brilliant!

Thoughts? @Calvin Lin

Mehul Arora - 4 years, 11 months ago

Elegant solution.

Ajay Bhardwaj - 6 years, 10 months ago

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I completely agree with Ajay - a most elegant solution!

John King - 5 years, 6 months ago

Don't you assume that a+b+c is non-zero?

Davy Ker - 5 years, 3 months ago

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If a+b+c is zero then the given equation won't be satisfied because (-1)+(-1)+(-1)=-3, not 1.

Ben Lou - 3 years, 7 months ago

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Could someone elaborate on this? I just can't get where these -1 -1 -1 come from.

Michele Franzoni - 2 years, 3 months ago

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@Michele Franzoni If a+b+c=0, then a+b=-c, let x=a+b, x=-c, c=-x, (a+b)/c=x/-x=-1, then do the same things to (a+c)/b and (b+c)/a u will get (-1)+(-1)+(-1)=1, -3=1, which is impossible, so a+b+c must not equal to zero(One year pass I believe u can prove it now😉)

CY K - 1 year, 1 month ago

That's exactly what I did. But how did you know you should replace 1 by (a+b+c)/(a+b+c)? I just "guessed" it COULD be the case, but I had no idea until I tried and it actually worked. Going with this "guesslation"/bruteforce could take me forever to solve a problem. So, I really want to know how did you know it was the way to go. Or was it just a guess as well?

Rafael Perrella - 5 years, 5 months ago

Awesome bro :)

Roopesh H - 6 years, 10 months ago

if supposed c=0,then get a+b. and a*b,then the expression will be b^2/a+a^2/b then work out the answer -2 ?,???????????

汉卿 蔣 - 5 years, 10 months ago

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In that context you can even write c=0/X where X is any real value except 0 itself.

Utkarsh Ujjaval - 9 months ago

And I was wondering which identity I did not know to solve this problem. Awesome solution!

Sandhya Saravanan - 5 years, 10 months ago

What if a + b + c = 0 a+b+c=0 ?

Kim Fierens - 5 years, 3 months ago

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then it would mean 1=-3

mmmmm mmmmm - 5 years, 2 months ago

that means 0/0=1

Wei Zhang - 3 years, 6 months ago

Do you have any triplet (a, b, c) which satisfies this This is true only if a, b, c are complex numbers Not true for any real triplet.

Gaurav Chahar - 5 years ago

@sean ty I guess your computer is too slow as u "copied" my solution 2 hours after my comment :D

Sahil Goel - 6 years, 10 months ago

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I didn't mean to. Sorry! Yeah, as they said, The Philippines has a very slow Internet Connection. So I'm really sorry haha. I don't want to be redundant but I really did not intend on 'copying' your solution. We had very similar (If not the same) solutions. :)

Sean Ty - 6 years, 10 months ago

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Chill dude.. Atleast the viewers got a nice pictorial solution ;)

Sahil Goel - 6 years, 10 months ago

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@Sahil Goel At least no one's angry or anything. I just wanted to avoid any conflict! :D

Sean Ty - 6 years, 10 months ago

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@Sean Ty Sean, you're such an imitator. Pinoy ka talaga!

Arvin Paul Sumobay - 6 years, 10 months ago

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@Arvin Paul Sumobay I'm Chinese.

Sean Ty - 6 years, 10 months ago

simple and elegant

Mustafa AbdAlwahab - 6 years, 10 months ago

very nice solution

John Albert Reyes - 6 years, 10 months ago

that is a great soln

Ajay Saju - 6 years, 9 months ago

really elegant. mine was a bit lengthy.

Rishi Sharma - 6 years, 5 months ago

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As was mine, Rishi. It was completely counter-intuitive until I saw Sean's beautiful solution!

John King - 5 years, 6 months ago

A pretty solution.

Panya Chunnanonda - 6 years ago

I don't understand what you say. . .

A Former Brilliant Member - 4 years, 11 months ago

La solution ne convient pas car on nous precise pas que a+b+c est different de 0. Le genre de choses qu'on apprend a l'ecole primaire :)

Lule Sky'drinker - 4 years, 11 months ago

How did you multiply it?

Erick Osorio - 4 years, 3 months ago

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( a b + c + b a + c + c a + b ) ( a + b + c ) = (\frac{a}{b+c} + \frac{b}{a+c} + \frac{c}{a+b})(a+b+c) = a ( a + b + c ) b + c + b ( a + b + c ) a + c + c ( a + b + c ) a + b = \frac{a(a+b+c)}{b+c} + \frac{b(a+b+c)}{a+c} + \frac{c(a+b+c)}{a+b} = a 2 + a ( b + c ) b + c + b 2 + b ( a + c ) a + c + c 2 + c ( a + b ) a + b = \frac{a^2+a(b+c)}{b+c} + \frac{b^2+b(a+c)}{a+c} + \frac{c^2+c(a+b)}{a+b}= a 2 b + c + a + b 2 a + c + b + c 2 a + b + c \frac{a^2}{b+c} + a + \frac{b^2}{a+c} + b + \frac{c^2}{a+b} + c

Zain Majumder - 2 years, 7 months ago

this is so dumb. i am in 4th grade and i can do this

Bharathi Reddy - 3 years, 8 months ago

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Wait u r in India and 15 years old studding in 4th grade.....or may be 5th now WOW

Piyush Patnaik - 1 year, 11 months ago

Will anyone elaborate the second step?

Bibhor Singh - 3 years, 2 months ago

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( a b + c + b a + c + c a + b ) ( a + b + c ) = (\frac{a}{b+c} + \frac{b}{a+c} + \frac{c}{a+b})(a+b+c) = a ( a + b + c ) b + c + b ( a + b + c ) a + c + c ( a + b + c ) a + b = \frac{a(a+b+c)}{b+c} + \frac{b(a+b+c)}{a+c} + \frac{c(a+b+c)}{a+b} = a 2 + a ( b + c ) b + c + b 2 + b ( a + c ) a + c + c 2 + c ( a + b ) a + b = \frac{a^2+a(b+c)}{b+c} + \frac{b^2+b(a+c)}{a+c} + \frac{c^2+c(a+b)}{a+b}= a 2 b + c + a + b 2 a + c + b + c 2 a + b + c \frac{a^2}{b+c} + a + \frac{b^2}{a+c} + b + \frac{c^2}{a+b} + c

Zain Majumder - 2 years, 7 months ago

Am I the only one who thought "If (a, b, c) solves the equation then so does (2a, 2b, 2c) but the value of the second expression would double so if it is unique it must be zero"?

Bill Cross - 3 years, 1 month ago

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Beautiful!

Vilim Lendvaj - 2 years, 9 months ago

Exactly my 'solution' ;-)

J T - 2 years ago

Take a=1, b=3/4 and c=5/4 then the first equation holds and the second equation gives 23/14. So the solution is not necessary an integer!!!!

Abdelaziz Belkhou - 2 years, 10 months ago

How did you get the first line?

Sebastian Pochert - 2 years, 8 months ago

Impressive. The solution is simple. But how did you think of writing 1 as (a+b+c)/(a+b+c) and then multiplying both sides by a+b+c ?

Hey, how do you decide whether to write 1 as (a+b+c)/(a+b+c) and not some other arbitrary thing. But this solution is good.

Nishant Ranjan - 1 year, 6 months ago

Then why don't you post it???

Nishant Ranjan - 1 year, 6 months ago

This is amazing...

Rafi Davis - 12 months ago

Wow I loved it

A Former Brilliant Member - 11 months, 1 week ago

Good solution.

Sai Ram - 6 years ago

Fabulous! This was very innovative.

Titas Biswas - 5 years, 10 months ago

Wew, this is awesome..

Jud Son - 6 years, 6 months ago

I can solve it in a shorter way....

Arsh Agarwal - 6 years, 10 months ago

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I would want to see it!

Sean Ty - 6 years, 10 months ago

Prove by solution and not by words.

Anuj Shikarkhane - 6 years, 8 months ago
Joseph Varghese
Jul 29, 2014

a 2 b + c + a b a + c + a c a + b = a \frac { { a }^{ 2 } }{ b+c } +\frac { ab }{ a+c } +\frac { ac }{ a+b } =a

b a b + c + b 2 a + c + b c a + b = b \frac { ba }{ b+c } +\frac { { b }^{ 2 } }{ a+c } +\frac { bc }{ a+b } =b

c a b + c + c b a + c + c 2 a + b = c \frac { ca }{ b+c } +\frac { cb }{ a+c } +\frac { { c }^{ 2 } }{ a+b } =c

Add the equations up to get

a 2 b + c + b 2 a + c + c 2 a + b + a ( b + c ) b + c + b ( a + c ) a + c + c ( a + b ) a + b = a + b + c \frac { { a }^{ 2 } }{ b+c } +\frac { { b }^{ 2 } }{ a+c } +\frac { { c }^{ 2 } }{ a+b } +\frac { a(b+c) }{ b+c } +\frac { b(a+c) }{ a+c } +\frac { c(a+b) }{ a+b } =a+b+c

Therefore a 2 b + c + b 2 a + c + c 2 a + b + a + b + c = a + b + c \frac { { a }^{ 2 } }{ b+c } +\frac { { b }^{ 2 } }{ a+c } +\frac { { c }^{ 2 } }{ a+b } +a+b+c=a+b+c

So a 2 b + c + b 2 a + c + c 2 a + b = 0 \frac { { a }^{ 2 } }{ b+c } +\frac { { b }^{ 2 } }{ a+c } +\frac { { c }^{ 2 } }{ a+b } =0

the easiest solution acc. to me...thnx

Upamanyu Ray - 6 years, 10 months ago

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You did it the wrong way. let initial expression be X and expression to be found is Y then we are given that X=1. Doing what you did then adding up we get: aX+bX+cX=Y+(a+b+c)

X(a+b+c)=Y+(a+b+c) taking X common

X(a+b+c)-(a+b+c)=Y transposing a+b+c

(a+b+c)(X-1)=Y taking a+b+c common

As we know X=1, we have (X-1)=0 and hence Y=0.

This is the right way.

SHOAIB WANI - 6 months, 3 weeks ago

This is the most intuitive way in my opinion but no the simplest solution.

Adam Staples - 6 years, 10 months ago

I also had this solution. This one's better.

Mark Angelo Ordonio - 6 years, 10 months ago

ya its easy i can get u

dhivya muthusamy - 6 years, 10 months ago

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This is the same as multiplying a + b + c a + b + c \frac{a+b+c}{a+b+c} .

Roman Frago - 5 years, 11 months ago

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For sure it´s the same... But the way that Joseph shows it gets easier to understand the idea of sean Roman...

Cleres Cupertino - 5 years, 11 months ago

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@Cleres Cupertino It is actually how I solved it and realized it is just the same...

Roman Frago - 5 years, 10 months ago

easiest solution thanks

FENG SI WEI - 1 year, 2 months ago
Aaaaaa Bbbbbb
Jul 19, 2014

( a b + c + b a + c + c a + b ) × ( a + b + c ) = ( a 2 b + c + b 2 a + c + c 2 a + b ) + ( a + b + c ) (\frac{a}{b+c}+\frac{b}{a+c}+\frac{c}{a+b}) \times (a+b+c)=(\frac{a^2}{b+c}+\frac{b^2}{a+c}+\frac{c^2}{a+b})+(a+b+c) a 2 b + c + b 2 a + c + c 2 a + b = ( a + b + c ) [ ( a b + c + b a + c + c a + b ) 1 ] = 0 \Rightarrow \frac{a^2}{b+c}+\frac{b^2}{a+c}+\frac{c^2}{a+b} = (a+b+c) [(\frac{a}{b+c}+\frac{b}{a+c}+\frac{c}{a+b})-1]=\boxed{0}

Best! :) ..

Krishna Ar - 6 years, 10 months ago

Very nice and elegant

kalyan pakala - 6 years, 10 months ago

Best solution.

Surya Raj - 5 years, 7 months ago

Great! =))

Trường Chinh Đoàn - 6 years, 10 months ago

Great solution I thought like that only😁

Mayank Jha - 6 years ago

I did it in the most complicated way. Simplifying the equation 1 I got a3+b3+c3+abc=0. I used this in second equation and got the answer 0. :( this solution is very good.

Vamsi Katakam - 4 years, 2 months ago

The above two solutions are good but I do not think they are short because each of the 'steps' actually consist of more than one steps thus they may be called easier or more logical but not short.

Zahid Hussain - 1 year, 9 months ago

I used logarithms

Prim Scribibble - 1 year, 2 months ago

thats how I thought about it also :)

Radwa Kamal - 6 years, 10 months ago
Nicolas Vilches
Jul 26, 2014

First of all, my solution uses that they're asking us for a number. If we have some values a , b , c a, b, c that satisfy the condition, then a , b , c -a, -b, -c also satisfy (because a b + c = a b c \frac { a }{ b+c } =\frac { -a }{ -b-c } , and the same to the other fractions. But, in the other fractions, the numbers are sqared, so a 2 b + c = ( a ) 2 b c \frac { { a }^{ 2 } }{ b+c } =-\frac { { (-a) }^{ 2 } }{ -b-c } , and combining for the three fractions, we have a 2 b + c + b 2 a + c + c 2 a + b = ( a 2 b + c + b 2 a + c + c 2 a + b ) \frac { { a }^{ 2 } }{ b+c } +\frac { { b }^{ 2 } }{ a+c } +\frac { c^{ 2 } }{ a+b } =-\left( \frac { { a }^{ 2 } }{ b+c } +\frac { { b }^{ 2 } }{ a+c } +\frac { c^{ 2 } }{ a+b } \right) , which implies a 2 b + c + b 2 a + c + c 2 a + b = 0 \frac { { a }^{ 2 } }{ b+c } +\frac { { b }^{ 2 } }{ a+c } +\frac { c^{ 2 } }{ a+b } =0

Wow!! What a nice solution.... Salute your skills.

Tiren handu - 6 years, 9 months ago

a a , b b , c c a\neq-a, b\neq-b, c\neq-c . The solution presented implies that a = a , b = b , c = c a=-a, b= -b, c=-c . Also, if an equation contradicts any given condition, it does not imply being equal to zero but indetermination.

Roman Frago - 5 years, 11 months ago

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This solution does not assume that a = a a=-a etc., only that the first sum is determined given the second. Given this assumption, it follows that a -a , b -b and c -c give the same first sum as a a , b b and c c , and the rest of the argument follows after that.

Joel Toms - 5 years, 9 months ago

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It does. a b + c = 1 1 × a b + c = a b c \frac {a}{b+c}=\frac {-1}{-1} \times \frac {a}{b+c}=\frac {-a}{-b-c}

The same way that a 2 b + c = 1 1 × a 2 b + c = a 2 b c ( a ) 2 b c \frac {a^2}{b+c}=\frac {-1}{-1} \times \frac {a^2}{b+c}=\frac {-a^2}{-b-c} \neq \frac {(-a)^2}{-b-c} )

Roman Frago - 5 years, 9 months ago

I don't see how the solution implies what you say it does. Please explain?

Ben Lou - 3 years, 7 months ago

This should be the most highly upvoted solution of this question. Just now, I gave it a +1 and now it has half a century votes.

Soha Farhin Pine Pine - 4 years, 4 months ago

Very elegant solution!

Morgan Blake - 6 years, 10 months ago

cool, you have shown the easiest way!

Aslam Hossain - 6 years, 10 months ago

awesome solution ...

Swarnendu Bhattacharjee - 5 years, 7 months ago

Beautiful solution!

John Link - 5 years, 5 months ago

The denominators are sums which we don't really like. We turn them into single terms by letting b + c = s b+c=s , a + c = t a+c=t , a + b = l a+b=l , and a + b + c = k a+b+c=k . Then we have: k s s + k t t + k l l = 1 \frac{k-s}{s} + \frac{k-t}{t} + \frac{k-l}{l} = 1 , which implies k s + k t + k l = 4 \frac{k}{s} + \frac{k}{t} + \frac{k}{l} =4 . Then we can write a 2 b + c + b 2 a + c + c 2 a + b \frac{a^2}{b+c} + \frac{b^2}{a+c} + \frac{c^2}{a+b} = ( k s ) 2 s + ( k t ) 2 t + ( k l ) 2 l =\frac{(k-s)^2}{s} + \frac{(k-t)^2}{t} + \frac{(k-l)^2}{l} = k 2 s + s 2 k + k 2 t + t 2 k + k 2 l + l 2 k =\frac{k^2}{s} + s - 2k + \frac{k^2}{t} + t - 2k + \frac{k^2}{l} + l - 2k = 4 k 6 k + 2 k = 0 =4k-6k+2k=\boxed{0} And we are done.

This it was the best of all answers without any doubt!!! Transform a furious denominator in a single number... Awesome!!!

Cleres Cupertino - 5 years, 11 months ago

Ya like it to short and easy to understand

harsh patel - 4 years, 5 months ago

thank you so much

Karol Dąbrowski - 1 year, 1 month ago

My algebra is week. How does s + t + l = 2k. Thanks for your help. P.s. I really like the Idea you use for this problem!

Thomas Ottman - 8 months, 2 weeks ago

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I see it now. You used the original definitions of s,t,l and k.

Thomas Ottman - 8 months, 1 week ago

Excellent approach

Lakshya Jain - 5 years, 10 months ago
Victor Loh
Jul 22, 2014

Creative solution :D

By Nesbitt's Inequality, we have a b + c + b a + c + c a + b 3 2 \frac{a}{b+c}+\frac{b}{a+c}+\frac{c}{a+b}\geq\frac{3}{2} for all positive real numbers a , b , c a,b,c .

If a , b , c a,b,c are all negative, then a , b , c -a,-b,-c are all positive, then we will arrive at the same equation, which is a contradiction. Hence at least one of a , b , c a,b,c must be 0 0 . WLOG set a = 0 a=0 . Then we have b c + c b = 1 \frac{b}{c}+\frac{c}{b}=1 b 2 + c 2 = b c \implies b^2+c^2=bc

We want to find b 2 c + c 2 b . \frac{b^2}{c}+\frac{c^2}{b}.

Note that b 2 c + c 2 b \frac{b^2}{c}+\frac{c^2}{b} = b 3 + c 3 b c =\frac{b^3+c^3}{bc} = ( b + c ) ( b 2 + c 2 b c ) b c =\frac{(b+c)(b^2+c^2-bc)}{bc}

Since b 2 + c 2 = b c b^2+c^2=bc , then ( b + c ) ( b 2 + c 2 b c ) b c = 0 \frac{(b+c)(b^2+c^2-bc)}{bc}=\boxed{0}

why cant you have a as positive and b and c as negative or different combinations like that?

Joseph Varghese - 6 years, 10 months ago

Seriously flawed: if (a,b,c) are not all positiv nor all negativ then they are mixed, no need to be 0. In fact, if setting a=0 and assuming real numbers, as you did, then you end up at b/c+c/b=1, which has no solution (look at f(x)=x+1/x ).

J T - 2 years ago
Henry Wan
Oct 23, 2015

L e t x = a b + c , y = b a + c a n d z = c a + b . B y r e w r i t i n g t h e c o n s t r a i n t , w e h a v e x + y + z = 1 S i n c e a = x ( b + c ) , b = y ( a + c ) , c = z ( a + b ) , w e h a v e a + b + c = x ( b + c ) + y ( a + c ) + z ( a + b ) a + b + c = ( a + b + c ) ( x + y + z ) a x b y c z a + b + c = a + b + c a x b y c z a x + b y + c z = 0 Let\quad x=\frac { a }{ b+c } ,\quad y=\frac { b }{ a+c } \quad and\quad z=\frac { c }{ a+b } .\quad \\ \\ By\quad rewriting\quad the\quad constraint,\quad we\quad have\quad x+y+z=1\\ \\ Since\quad a=x(b+c),\quad b=y(a+c),\quad c=z(a+b),\quad we\quad have\\ a+b+c=x(b+c)+y(a+c)+z(a+b)\\ a+b+c=(a+b+c)(x+y+z)-ax-by-cz\\ a+b+c=a+b+c-ax-by-cz\\ ax+by+cz=0

Nice solution :)

Algerd Del Rosario - 5 years, 6 months ago

a + b + c = a + b + c - ax - by - cz How did you get to here? I can't follow from previous step.

Jonathan Helsing - 3 years, 1 month ago

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Sum of x, y, and z is 1

Asa Schiller - 2 years, 4 months ago

x+y+z=1 substitute in previous

Kanhaiya Yadav - 2 years, 3 months ago
Sahil Goel
Jul 18, 2014

In the given equation write 1 as a+b+c/a+b+c and then cross multiply to get the answer ;)

Can you add more details explaining what you did?

Calvin Lin Staff - 6 years, 10 months ago

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Yeah sure.. 1.Write 1 as a+b+c/a+b+c 2.Take a+b+c of the denominotor to the LHS and multiply with every term. 3.Then split the terms according to the requirements of the question and you will get a^2/b+c + frac b^2/a+c + frac c^2/a+b + frac a(b+c)/b+c +frac b(a+c)/a+c +frac c(a+b)/a+b=a+b+c 4. Cancel the numerator and the denominator in 4th, 5th & 6th term. 5. You will get a^2/b+c + frac b^2/a+c + frac c^2/a+b + a + b + c = a + b + c 6. Now cancel a+b+c from both the sides to get the answer that is zero. ;)

Sahil Goel - 6 years, 10 months ago

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Please forgive me Sahil, but I wanted to read your solution, so using my beginner skills, I tried to patch up your LaTeX.

Yeah sure..

1.Write 1 as a + b + c a + b + c \frac{a+b+c}{a+b+c}

2.Take a+b+c of the denominator to the LHS and multiply with every term.

3.Then split the terms according to the requirements of the question and you will get: a 2 b + c + b 2 a + c + c 2 a + b + a ( b + c ) b + c + b ( a + c ) a + c + c ( a + b ) a + b = a + b + c \frac{a^2}{b+c} + \frac{ b^2}{a+c} + \frac{ c^2}{a+b} + \frac{ a(b+c)}{b+c} +\frac{ b(a+c)}{a+c} + \frac{c(a+b)}{a+b}=a+b+c

4.Cancel the numerator and the denominator in 4th, 5th & 6th term.

5.You will get a 2 b + c + b 2 a + c + c 2 a + b + a + b + c = a + b + c \frac{a^2}{b+c} + \frac{b^2}{a+c} + \frac{c^2}{a+b} + a + b + c = a + b + c

6.Now cancel a+b+c from both the sides to get the answer that is zero. ;)

Michael Fischer - 6 years, 10 months ago

Interesting :)

Astro Enthusiast - 6 years, 10 months ago

I expanded the first part, got a relationship and then expande the second part which was to be calculated and then put the values of the 1st equation to get 0.

Kushagra Sahni - 6 years, 10 months ago

Someone please just tell me how to use formatting guide..

Sahil Goel - 6 years, 10 months ago

To do this, it is not necessary to prove that a + b + c is diferent of zero?

Guilherme Sá - 6 years, 10 months ago

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If that were true, you could deduce that the given sum is equal to -3 instead of 1.

T B - 6 years, 10 months ago

Can we multiply and divide by the same number? What about if the sum equal to zero?

Asim Razzaq - 6 years, 10 months ago
Uahbid Dey
Jun 6, 2015

Dave Day
Sep 3, 2015

a b + c + b a + c + c a + b = a a + b + c + b a + b + c + c a + b + c \dfrac{a}{b+c}+\dfrac{b}{a+c}+\dfrac{c}{a+b}=\dfrac{a}{a+b+c}+\dfrac{b}{a+b+c}+\dfrac{c}{a+b+c} so . a ( 1 b + c 1 a + b + c ) = 0 \sum{a(\dfrac{1}{b+c}-\dfrac{1}{a+b+c})}=0 .

hence . a 2 ( b + c ) ( a + b + c ) = 0 \sum{\dfrac{a^{2}}{(b+c)(a+b+c)}}=0 .

because a + b + c a+b+c can't be 0

so a 2 b + c = 0 \sum{\dfrac{a^{2}}{b+c}}=0

Q.E.D

Looking at the solutions given, I came to know how stupid I am.
Here is what I did (not a correct method but interesting):
Take c = 0 c=0 . Then the equation reduces to a b + b a = 1 \frac{a}{b}+\frac{b}{a}=1 , solving this we get a b = w \frac{a}{b}=-w where w w is the complex cube root of 1.
Now, if we take b = w b=w , then a = w 2 a=-w^{2}
Substituting these values, the given expression is found to be equal to 0.



Andrea Palma
Mar 16, 2015

I think the least elegant solution would be this.

From a b + c + b a + c + c a + b = 1 \frac{a}{b+c} + \frac{b}{a+c} + \frac{c}{a+b} = 1

we deduce a 3 + b 3 + c 3 + a b c = 0 a^3 + b^3 + c^3 + abc = 0 .

Taking the least common multiplier in the expression

a 2 b + c + b 2 a + c + c 2 a + b \frac{a^2}{b+c} + \frac{b^2}{a+c} + \frac{c^2}{a+b}

and computing the numerator we found it is

( a + b + c ) ( a 3 + b 3 + c 3 + a b c ) = 0 (a + b + c) (a^3 + b^3 + c^3 + abc ) = 0 .

That's it.

Clarence Zhuo
Feb 19, 2020

Let x : = a / ( b + c ) , y : = b / ( c + a ) , z : = c / ( a + b ) , w : = a x + b y + c z , x := a/(b+c),\\ y := b/(c+a),\\ z := c/(a+b),\\ w := ax+by+cz, then a + b + c = ( x + y + z ) ( a + b + c ) = w + x ( b + c ) + y ( c + a ) + z ( a + b ) = w + a + b + c , a+b+c = (x+y+z)(a+b+c) = w + x(b+c) + y(c+a) + z(a+b) = w + a + b + c, which implies w = 0 w = 0 .

Abhinav Sinha
Aug 17, 2017

Let s = a + b + c s=a+b+c

a s a + b s b + c s c = 1 \therefore \dfrac{a}{s-a} + \dfrac{b}{s-b}+\dfrac{c}{s-c} = 1

Now

a 2 s a + b 2 s b + c 2 s c = a 2 s a + s a s a + b 2 s b + s b s b + c 2 s c + s c s c \dfrac{a^2}{s-a} + \dfrac{b^2}{s-b}+\dfrac{c^2}{s-c} = \dfrac{a^2 -sa +sa}{s-a} + \dfrac{b^2 -sb +sb}{s-b}+\dfrac{c^2-sc+sc}{s-c}

= a ( a s ) + s a s a + b ( b s ) + s b s b + c ( c s ) + s c s c =\dfrac{a(a -s) +sa}{s-a} + \dfrac{b(b -s) +sb}{s-b}+\dfrac{c(c-s)+sc}{s-c}

= a ( a s ) s a + b ( b s ) s b + c ( c s ) s c + s ( a s a + b s b + c s c ) =\dfrac{a(a -s)}{s-a} + \dfrac{b(b -s) }{s-b}+\dfrac{c(c-s)}{s-c} + s( \dfrac{a}{s-a} + \dfrac{b}{s-b}+\dfrac{c}{s-c} )

= s + s = 0 =-s+s=0

Gregory Lewis
May 16, 2016

The answer is easily obtained without doing the math. Since any solutions for a,b,c will work equally well with 2a,2b,2c, then assuming the question is valid and has an answer, 2(a^2+b^2+c^2) = a^2+b^2+c^2, so the answer must be zero.

John Winkelman
Jan 30, 2018

I found the least elegant method. I noted that the problem is homogeneous, so a=1 is a possible solution. Substituting a =1 gives us a homogeneous equation in b,c so we can set b=1 as well and solve for c, which turns out to be c= (1+- i rt 7)/2. Using c = (1 + i rt 7)/2 and a=b=1 in the second equation yields 0. Not pretty, but it works. Congratulations to the other solvers who found much nicer solutions!

Its easy to show the implication of the exercise ( if ...=1 holds then 2nd line must =0) and even easier to conclude from homogenous: if it's unique then it must be 0. But no one else addressed the existence of a solution (a,b,c) -> upvoted.

J T - 2 years ago
Shourya Pandey
Mar 27, 2016

Just as a side note, it is not hard to guess the numerical value, because the given condition on a , b , c a,b,c is homogeneous.

Tom Wang
Jun 26, 2020

so i like joseph varghese's solution (simplify the expression a+b+c); Sean Ty's solution isn't bad either, very clever. I personally just solve problems with approaches I don't need to memorize. It's not efficient, but fairly easy to follow.

for this problem it took me a while to find patterns, but eventually after an hour of mulling over it I came across the geometric first step of representing the denominator of the expressions as a box with lengths, height, and widths of (b+c), (a+b), and (a+c); multiplying this out takes a while, but splitting the volume into 8 pieces, and then multiply the original expression out with common denominator, we get (b+c)(a+c)(a+b)=a^2b+ca^2+ab^2+abc+ac^2+abc+bc^2+cb^2=a^3+a^2b+a^2c+abc+ab^2+b^3+abc+cb^2+abc+bc^2+ac^2+c^3; the multiplication is sort of tedious so this isn't really a clever solution, but canceling terms in this expression yields a nice expression 0=a^3+b^3+c^3+abc;

multiplying the question expression out to a common denominator yields a numerator a^4+b^4+c^4+ba^3+ca^3+ab^3+cb^3+bc^3+ac^3+bca^2+acb^2+abc^2=a(a^3+a^2b+a^2c+b^3+c^3+abc+cb^2+bc^2)+b^4+c^4+cb^3+bc^3=a^3b+a^3c+acb^3+abc^2+b^4+c^4+cb^3+bc^3=b(a^3+acb+ac^2+b^3+cb^2+c^3)=b(ac^2+cb^2)+a^3c+c^4=c(abc+b^3+a^3+c^3)=0

brilliant encourages users to find the most efficient solution possible, so this solution probably won't win you the math olympics, but I find value in solving problems with your own wits first and only look at solutions if you'v done all you can; though this again is not efficient because I'm basically reinventing the "wheel" everytime instead of utilizing what my predecessors have to offer.

I'd recommend everybody to not try to reinvent the "wheel", but understanding how the wheel came to be can be important if I want to understand how the past differs from the present, and history...and so on so forth.

enough ranting anyways, I'd just add that I've finally realized what I've done wrong in the past. If everyone went about life like me, the world might still be in the dark ages lol

Rhys Macdonald
Nov 7, 2019

Rearranging the original equation:

a b + c = 1 b a + c c a + b \frac{a}{b+c}=1-\frac{b}{a+c}-\frac{c}{a+b}

b a + c = 1 a b + c c a + b \frac{b}{a+c}=1-\frac{a}{b+c}-\frac{c}{a+b}

c a + b = 1 a b + c b a + c \frac{c}{a+b}=1-\frac{a}{b+c}-\frac{b}{a+c}

Substituting into the second equation:

a ( 1 b a + c c a + b ) + b ( 1 a b + c c a + b ) + c ( 1 a b + c b a + c ) a(1-\frac{b}{a+c}-\frac{c}{a+b})+b(1-\frac{a}{b+c}-\frac{c}{a+b})+c(1-\frac{a}{b+c}-\frac{b}{a+c})

Distributing:

= a a b a + c a c a + b + b b a b + c b c a + b + c a c b + c b c a + c =a-\frac{ab}{a+c}-\frac{ac}{a+b}+b-\frac{ba}{b+c}-\frac{bc}{a+b}+c-\frac{ac}{b+c}-\frac{bc}{a+c}

Collecting terms:

= a + b + c b a + c ( a + c ) c a + b ( a + b ) a b + c ( b + c ) =a+b+c-\frac{b}{a+c}(a+c)-\frac{c}{a+b}(a+b)-\frac{a}{b+c}(b+c)

Cancelling:

= a + b + c a b c =a+b+c-a-b-c

= 0 =\boxed{0}

Again, Mathematica does the trick:

Simplify[ a^2/(b+c)+b^2/(a+c)+c^2/(a+b) /. Solve[a/(b+c)+b/(a+c)+c/(a+b)==1,{a}] ]

Gives

{0,0,0}

As the three possible solutions.

Nagarjuna Reddy
Jan 28, 2016

Where r you multiplying with a+b+c on both the sides.

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