Blending of Doppler's Effect and Calculus

Consider a standard Cartesian coordinate system (the x y xy plane). A sound source is moving on a parabolic path y 2 = 4 x \displaystyle{{ y }^{ 2 }=4x} with constant speed v s = v 2 \displaystyle{{ v }_{ s }=\cfrac { v }{ 2 } } . Here v v is velocity of sound in still air.

At time t = 0 t=0 the source is at the origin, and an observer is standing at rest at ( 1 , 0 ) \displaystyle{(-1,0)} . Find the time at which the observer hears the lowest frequency he'll hear from the source. The time T T can be expressed as T = a b + c ln ( d + e ) v \displaystyle{T=\cfrac { a\sqrt { b } +c\ln { (\sqrt { d } +e) } }{ v } }

Find a + b + c + d + e a+b+c+d+e .

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  • Here a , b , c , d , e a,b,c,d,e are positive integers , and b , d b,d are square free integer .
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The answer is 11.

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2 solutions

Ronak Agarwal
Feb 17, 2015

Well this is easy.

First minimum frequency occurs when the source has maximum velocity of seperation that is when tangent to the parabola at the point where the source is present passes through the point where the observer is present.

It is clear that ( 1 , 0 ) (-1,0) lies on the intersection of the directrix and axis of the parabola, hence the point of contact of the tangent is the end point of latus rectum(Simple properties of parabola alternatively you can solve it by other methods)

Co-ordinate of end point of latus rectum is ( 1 , 2 ) (1,2)

Hence our first task is find the time source will take to reach the end point of latus rectum.

Here formula for finding arc length of a curve will help us here.

L = 0 x 0 1 + ( d y d x ) 2 d x L = \displaystyle \int _{ 0 }^{ { x }_{ 0 } }{ \sqrt { 1+{ (\frac { dy }{ dx } ) }^{ 2 } } dx }

In this question we have y = 2 x , x 0 = 1 y=2\sqrt{x} , {x}_{0}=1 .

Our integral becomes :

L = 0 1 1 + 1 x d x L=\displaystyle \int _{ 0 }^{ 1 }{ \sqrt { 1+\frac { 1 }{ x } } dx }

Put x = tan 2 ( θ ) x=\tan^{2}(\theta)

L = 2 0 π / 4 s e c 3 θ d θ L= \displaystyle 2\int _{ 0 }^{ \pi /4 }{ { sec }^{ 3 }\theta d\theta }

Applying integration by parts :

u = s e c θ , v = s e c 2 θ u = sec\theta , v' = sec^{2}\theta

L = 2 ( s e c θ t a n θ 0 π / 4 0 π / 4 s e c θ t a n 2 θ d θ ) L =\displaystyle 2( sec\theta tan\theta \overset { \pi /4 }{ \underset { 0 }{ | } } -\int _{ 0 }^{ \pi /4 }{ sec\theta { tan }^{ 2 }\theta d\theta } )

L = 2 ( s e c θ t a n θ 0 π / 4 0 π / 4 s e c 3 θ d θ + 0 π / 4 s e c θ d θ ) L = \displaystyle 2(sec\theta tan\theta \overset { \pi /4 }{ \underset { 0 }{ | } } -\int _{ 0 }^{ \pi /4 }{ { sec }^{ 3 }\theta d\theta } +\int _{ 0 }^{ \pi /4 }{ sec\theta d\theta })

2 L = 2 ( s e c θ t a n θ + l n ( s e c θ + t a n θ ) 0 π / 4 ) 2L = \displaystyle 2(sec\theta tan\theta +ln(sec\theta +tan\theta )\overset { \pi /4 }{ \underset { 0 }{ | } } )

L = 2 + l n ( 2 + 1 ) \Rightarrow L= \sqrt { 2 } +ln(\sqrt { 2 } +1)

Time taken = L v 2 \dfrac{L}{\dfrac{v}{2}} = 2 2 + 2 l n ( 2 + 1 ) v \dfrac{2\sqrt{2}+2ln(\sqrt{2}+1)}{v}

Now the net time after which the observer hears the minimum frequency is the taken taken by source to reach the point and the time in which the sound reaches the observer.

Time taken by sound to reach the observer.

=Distance between ( 1 , 0 ) (-1,0) and ( 1 , 2 ) (1,2) / Speed of sound

= 2 2 v =\frac{2\sqrt{2}}{v}

Now net time T n e t = 4 2 + 2 l n ( 2 + 1 ) v {T}_{net} = \dfrac{ 4\sqrt{2} + 2ln( \sqrt{2} +1 ) }{v}

I did it mostly the same, but I first changed the equation to y = 0.25 x 2 y=0.25x^2 and I put the observer at (0,-1)

I thought it might make it easier but it didn't make much of a difference.

Nathanael Case - 6 years, 3 months ago

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We are just too familiar to use the parabola y 2 = 4 x y^{2}=4x since when we conic sections the equation of standard parabola we study is y 2 = 4 a x y^{2}=4ax and we derive all the properties based on that.

Ronak Agarwal - 6 years, 3 months ago

Nice work Ronak +1 ! Here for arc length , Instead I use reverse integration L = d r = ( d x ) 2 + ( d y ) 2 = ( ( d x d y ) 2 + 1 ) d y = 0 2 a y 2 + 4 a 2 2 a d y \displaystyle{L=\int { dr } =\int { \sqrt { { (dx })^{ 2 }+{ (dy })^{ 2 } } } =\int _{ }^{ }{ (\sqrt { { (\cfrac { dx }{ dy } ) }^{ 2 }+1 } } )dy=\int _{ 0 }^{ 2a }{ \cfrac { \sqrt { { y }^{ 2 }+{ 4a }^{ 2 } } }{ 2a } dy } } Now Use Standard Result as per given in NCERT

Deepanshu Gupta - 6 years, 3 months ago

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Well it was ten second work for me since I directly know the result.

s e c 3 θ d θ = s e c θ t a n θ + l n ( s e c θ + t a n θ ) 2 \displaystyle \int { { sec }^{ 3 }\theta d\theta } =\frac { sec\theta tan\theta +ln(|sec\theta +tan\theta |) }{ 2 }

Hence that integral favoured me. Infact I don't remember any of NCERT radical integration identities till now and I believe I don't need it.

Ronak Agarwal - 6 years, 3 months ago

Oh yeah, totally easy.

Anshuman Das - 6 years, 3 months ago

@Ronak Agarwal Please correct the spelling of the word: it is separation and not seperation

Vijay Simha - 4 years, 6 months ago

@Deepanshu Gupta, Please correct the problem statement from If an Sound source to If a Sound Source.

Vijay Simha - 4 years, 6 months ago

Yeah! Same!

Md Zuhair - 3 years, 4 months ago

@SUMUKHA ADIGA

rakshith lokesh - 3 years, 3 months ago

This is Really Very Interesting and Cool Problem Deepanshu ,as always !

Karan Shekhawat - 6 years, 3 months ago

Yeah! Easy and a good question!

Aniket Sanghi - 4 years, 3 months ago
Shashwat Shukla
Feb 17, 2015

The physics of this problem is as follows:

The sound source is moving along the parabola and is continuously emitting sound waves which travel to the observer.

The important thing to note hear is that the sound pulse with the minimum a p p a r e n t apparent (or Doppler shifted) frequency is emitted by the source at the instant when it is moving away from the source(i.e. when it's velocity is along the line joining it to the observer).

As is obvious, the point on the parabola where this happens corresponds to the point where the tangent drawn from ( 1 , 0 ) (-1,0) touches the parabola.

Therefore what we have to find, is the (time taken by the sound source to travel along the parabola to this point) + (the time taken for the sound pulse emitted at this point to reach the observer).

That's the physics done. For the math, the first step is to find the point where the tangent from ( 1 , 0 ) (-1,0) touches the parabola.

y 2 = 4 x y^2=4x can be parametrised as ( t 2 , 2 t ) (t^2,2t) . Let the point to be found be P ( t ) P(t) .

The tangent at P is: t y = x + t 2 ty=x+t^2 This passes through ( 1 , 0 ) (-1,0) . We get t = ± 1 t=\pm 1 .

Either value of t is equivalent. So let's work with t=1.

Thus, P ( 1 , 2 ) P\equiv(1,2) .

To find the time taken by the sound source to go from the origin to P, we need to find the arc length of the parabola between x=0 and x=1 (as this is the distance travelled by the source).

The arc length s, is given by: s = 0 1 1 + ( d y d x ) 2 d x s=\int_{0}^{1}\sqrt{1+(\frac{dy}{dx})^2}\quad dx

Here, d y d x = 1 x \frac{dy}{dx}=\frac{1}{\sqrt x} ( a s y = 2 x ) \quad (as \quad y=2\sqrt x) .

Thus, s = 0 1 1 + 1 x d x = 2 + l o g ( 2 + 1 ) s=\int_{0}^{1}\sqrt{1+\frac{1}{x}}\quad dx= \sqrt{2}+ log(\sqrt{2}+1)

Note that the corresponding time is s v 2 = 2 s v \frac{s}{\frac{v}{2}}=\frac{2s}{v} .

Now, the final part is very easy: We find the distance between P(1,2) and (-1,0) which is equal to 2 2 2\sqrt 2 and the corresponding time is 2 2 v \frac{2\sqrt 2}{v}

Add the two, and you're done.

Good and Very Nicely done , Bro ! , But I think You did not take the advantage of data given in quest. I mean I specifically Mentioned the Position of observer as (-1,0) Because it is at it's directrix , So tangent must be interesect at latus rectum of parabola , so that you can avoid such calculations ! I know This takes hardly some time , But still . . . . . ¨ \ddot\smile

Also don't you think that present ratings of this problem is too high ?

Deepanshu Gupta - 6 years, 3 months ago

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Thanks. And yea, that property does save time. Thanks for pointing it out. :)

And yea, I do think that it's rating is too high. Maybe it'll change in a few days.

Shashwat Shukla - 6 years, 3 months ago

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I really did not Like much the present rating system at the brilliant ! Which is Like as Rating system in chess ! Here some Problem's which were desire high rating's doesn't get such suitable rating and some Problem's which doesn't deserve even The Level -5 ratings are rated so high.

Like in this Problem I set it as Level-4 initially , But I don't Know How It change into level-5 and after that It rated as 300+ , Man This is Insane !
Even Also staff's Member Problem Like This bounce-it-like-beckham is also one of example!

Deepanshu Gupta - 6 years, 3 months ago

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@Deepanshu Gupta Very true!

Shashwat Shukla - 6 years, 3 months ago

@Deepanshu Gupta If 300+ is insane that what is 400 points.

Ronak Agarwal - 6 years, 3 months ago

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