Boat on fire.

A boat moves relative to water with a velocity which is n = 2 n = 2 times less than the river flow velocity. At what angle to the stream direction must the boat move to minimize drifting. Answer in degrees.

Minimise drifting means Minimising the distance the boat covers in the direction of flow of river.


The answer is 120.

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3 solutions

Nico Valdes
Dec 30, 2013

Oh, come on- if you're gonna take a problem from Irodov, at least give him credit ;)! Ok, so as for solving the problem, here we go: By minimizing drifting, they mean minimize the distance the boat is carried downriver; so, we want to minimize how far in the x direction the boat moves. If we minimize it for a given distance to travel across the river, we minimize it for the whole trip.

So the boat wants to travel a distance D (in the y-direction) across the river, and move as little as possible in the x direction (the amount that it moves we will call R). We know that the velocity must be at an angle greater than 90 degrees to the stream direction, or the boat would use some of its own motor to go downstream, which we don't want happening (the less downstream, the better). However, the boat can't go completely at 180 degrees (or something near that) because its velocity is half that of the stream's. The boat would drift less, but it would never go across, so in the long run it would just be stuck, drifting endlessly. Thus the angle is somewhere in between 90 and 180 degrees. Let's make an angle x between the velocity of the boat and the vertical; this angle plus 90 will be our answer. If the boat travels for a time t, we know that v•cosx•t=D, and (u-v•sinx)•t=R, where v is the boat velocity and u is the stream velocity. D/(v•cosx)•(u-v•sinx)=R=(D•u-D•v•sinx)/(v•cosx)=(D•2v-D•v•sinx)/(v•cosx)=(2D-D•sinx)/cosx. Taking the derivative to minimize, we get that 0=d•(2sinx-1)/cos^2(x). Then sin(x)=1/2, or x=30 degrees.

Remembering that x is only the angle with respect to the vertical, we add those extra 90 degrees to find the angle with respect to the stream's velocity. We finally get: 120 degrees. Whoooooo!

Yeah Just Forgot to give the credit!!! :) OK People This Question Is From P.G.P. by the great I.E.Irodov(it's a good book, you all should solve)!!! and yeah Mr. NICO the solution you have given is nicely explained!! Like it!! I am still learning to add Solutions !!

Raj Error - 7 years, 5 months ago

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Hello, thanks for the nice problem. What's PGP?

Lokesh Sharma - 7 years, 5 months ago

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Problems in general physics- amazing book :D. Raj is right- everyone should try this book out!

Nico Valdes - 7 years, 5 months ago

its really tough... first go for basics...if u r a JEE aspirant go for arihant or H.C Verma...then IRODOV

Arijit Banerjee - 7 years, 4 months ago

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@Arijit Banerjee I've done D.c.pandey(Arihant) and H.c.Verma!

Raj Error - 7 years, 3 months ago

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@Raj Error That's really good ... now in Maths u can follow ML Khanna and Arihant series . Why don't u ask your teacher.

Arijit Banerjee - 7 years, 3 months ago

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@Arijit Banerjee Everyone I can learn from is my teacher!

Raj Error - 7 years, 3 months ago

@Arijit Banerjee What Should be done In Maths And Chemistry?

Raj Error - 7 years, 3 months ago

Well explained answer ^ credits to Sir Irodov and Nico Valdes

Rohan Chandra - 7 years, 4 months ago

What does this mean:

A boat moves relative to water with a velocity which is n = 2 times less than the river flow velocity.

Lokesh Sharma - 7 years, 5 months ago

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Oh, just that the boat's velocity is half that of the river's.

Nico Valdes - 7 years, 5 months ago

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boat's velocity with respect to flowing water is half of that of water.it's velocity with respect to ground depends on the angle.

Harshal Sharma - 7 years, 5 months ago

This question is so horribly phrased.

Tong Choo - 7 years, 5 months ago

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Yeah. Unfortunately, Irodov's book was originally in Russian and the translation is pretty bad.

Nico Valdes - 7 years, 5 months ago
Tunk-Fey Ariawan
Feb 2, 2014

It's difficult for me to explain without a picture, but I'll make as simple as possible. Let v b v_b be velocity of the boat, v s v_s be velocity of the stream, and θ \,\theta be the angle between boat and stream direction. If d \,d denotes the width of the river, then the time taken to cross the river is t = d v b sin θ . t=\frac{d}{v_b \sin\theta}. Therefore, the drifting of the boat is s = ( v b cos θ + v s ) t = ( v b cos θ + v s ) d v b sin θ = ( cot θ + 2 csc θ ) d . \begin{aligned} s&=(v_b\cos\theta + v_s)t\\ &=(v_b\cos\theta + v_s)\frac{d}{v_b \sin\theta}\\ &=(\cot\theta + 2\csc\theta)d. \end{aligned} To minimize drifting can be obtained by setting the first derivative of s s with respect to θ \,\theta equal to zero. d s d θ = 0 d d θ ( cot θ + 2 csc θ ) d = 0 csc 2 θ 2 cot θ csc θ = 0 csc 2 θ = 2 cot θ csc θ csc θ = 2 cot θ cos θ = 1 2 θ = 12 0 \begin{aligned} \frac{ds}{d\theta}&=0\\ \frac{d}{d\theta}(\cot\theta + 2\csc\theta)d&=0\\ -\csc^2\theta-2\cot\theta\csc\theta&=0\\ \csc^2\theta&=-2\cot\theta\csc\theta\\ \csc\theta&=-2\cot\theta\\ \cos\theta&=-\frac{1}{2}\\ \theta&=\boxed{120^\circ} \end{aligned} # Q . E . D . # \text{\# }\mathbb{Q}.\mathbb{E}.\mathbb{D}.\text{\#}

Jaivir Singh
Apr 22, 2014

TAKE ANY ANGLE FROM PERPENDICULAR LINE SO TIME TAKEN TO CROSS THE RIVER IS D/VCOS ANGLE. SO DRIFT IS Vr * TIME TAKEN FOR MINIMUM VALUE dx/ dof angle is zero then we find angle from perpendicular is 30 so angle from stream is 120

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