BrilliantBeard’s Game of Wits

Logic Level 2

You dig up a treasure chest full of 100000 100000 gold coins, but right when you are about to take it for yourself, you are ambushed by the infamous BrilliantBeard the Pirate and his nefarious crew of bandits!

Being prideful of his intelligence, BrilliantBeard says he will let you keep the treasure if you can beat him at a game of wits. In this game, you must alternate turns reducing the money in the chest to either 1 2 \frac{1}{2} , 1 5 \frac{1}{5} , or 1 10 \frac{1}{10} of its previous amount, but splitting coins is not allowed. (For example, if the first person chooses to reduce the 100000 100000 gold coins to 1 10 \frac{1}{10} of its previous amount, then there will be 10000 10000 coins left.) The first person that can reduce the money down to 1 1 gold coin is the winner and may keep the treasure chest. However, BrilliantBeard says that if you lose he will make you walk the plank!

Since you found the treasure, BrilliantBeard agrees to let you decide who will go first.

What should you choose?

You should choose to go first You should let BrilliantBeard go first

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3 solutions

David Vreken
Jan 9, 2019

You should go first , and on your first turn reduce the treasure to 1 10 \frac{1}{10} of its previous amount, so that there is 10000 10000 gold coins left. After this, you can copy BrilliantBeard's every move. (For example, if he chooses to reduce the treasure to 1 5 \frac{1}{5} of its previous amount, then you should reduce the treasure to 1 5 \frac{1}{5} of its previous amount on your next turn.) Doing this will guarantee that you will be the first to reduce the treasure to 1 1 gold coin and win.

After you won BrilliantBeard's game, he slammed the lid down on the 1 1 gold coin left in the treasure chest and sneered, "Aye, you’re pretty smart for a landlubber, but not quite smart enough for a pirate! As a man of my word you may keep the treasure chest as we agreed, but we never made an accord about the treasure. I’ll be keeping that for meself!”

There is some ambiguity in the wording of this problem. I think it is just a quess as to what is meant in the problem as it is worded now.

firstly -your statement "you must alternate turns reducing the money in the chest by either1/2 ,1/5 or 1/10 , but splitting coins is not allowed." could easily be interpreted to mean that the coins in the box are to be reduced by 1/2, or 1/5 or 1/10 so the 100,000 reduced by 1/10 would be 90,000. I think that it would be more correct to say reduced to 1/10 of the remaining coins in the chest.
secondly- It is not clear what will happen if someone left with a number of coins that cannot be split evenly by 2,5,or 10. For example;suppose I left BrillinatBeard with 9 coins in the chest what are his options.

Darryl Dennis - 2 years, 4 months ago

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Thanks, I added an example to hopefully resolve the ambiguity. For the second point, since 100,000 only has factors of 2, 5, and 10, it is not possible for 9 coins in the chest to be left over.

David Vreken - 2 years, 4 months ago

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It is possible for 5 coins to be left, though.

Martha Sapeta - 1 year ago

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@Martha Sapeta Then the next person can reduce the 5 5 coins to 1 5 \frac{1}{5} that amount to leave 1 1 coin left (and win).

David Vreken - 1 year ago

I realize that 9 is not possible if the reductions are as you now have explained. But I actually think that the problem may be more interesting when I was thinking reduced by 1/10 as meaning leaving 9/10. In that case it is easy to arrive at many numbers that cannot be evenly divided. In that problem some type of clarification would be required to make a solution possible.

Darryl Dennis - 2 years, 4 months ago

@David Vreken I started with 1/10 of 100,000 and on last turn( played by me) ,10 coins were left and I did 1/10 ( i.e. taken all 10 coins) , ZERO coins are left in the treasure chest and not ONE. Though 10/10 is one. I got the puzzle correct but I m still stuck on the problem mentioned above. Thanks.

Beyond Zero - 2 years, 4 months ago

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If you have 10 coins and choose to reduce it by 1 10 \frac{1}{10} , there will be 10 1 10 = 1 10 \cdot \frac{1}{10} = 1 coin left.

David Vreken - 2 years, 4 months ago

hahahahaha

Right, I'll gratefully slink away with my treasure chest and my one gold coin. And my life, I might add. :)

Varsha Dani - 2 years, 4 months ago

Another interesting thing about your solution is that I had not realized that after the initial move 100000 10000 100000 \rightarrow 10000 you can just mirror BB's moves. Sometimes one doesn't see something that's staring at one in the face. I'll post my solution in a moment and you'll see what I mean... (if interested, obviously)

Varsha Dani - 2 years, 4 months ago
Varsha Dani
Jan 23, 2019

The Xs denote lost positions, while the circles denote winning positions, with an arrow indicating the winning move.

That's a good visual representation of the solution!

David Vreken - 2 years, 4 months ago
Hgean Kid Nebula
Jan 31, 2019

You should go first.

10^5=100,000, the original amount. After the treasure is divided by 10 five times, 1 coin will remain. Pick 1/10 first. No matter what BrilliantBeard chooses, you can pick a fraction to make sure his move times yours equals 1/10 or 1/100. (If he picks 1/10, pick 1/10 again. If he picks 1/2, you pick 1/5. If he picks 1/5, you pick 1/2.) Following this strategy, you are guaranteed a win.

I don't think this strategy always works. You pick 1/10 first and now there is 10,000 coins left. Then let's say BrilliantBeard chooses 1/2, so you choose 1/5, so now there are 1,000 coins left. Then let's say BrilliantBeard picks 1/10, so you pick 1/10, so now there are 10 coins left. Then BrilliantBeard can pick 1/10 and win.

David Vreken - 2 years, 4 months ago

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oh. well I feel dumb now lol

Hgean Kid Nebula - 2 years, 4 months ago

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It's not completely a wrong idea though, it would work if you could always make theirmove yourmove = 1 10 \text{theirmove} \cdot \text{yourmove} = \frac{1}{10} . the issue is that when they do 1 10 \frac{1}{10} and you do 1 10 \frac{1}{10} then theirmove yourmove = 1 100 \text{theirmove} \cdot \text{yourmove}= \frac{1}{100} instead of 1 10 \frac{1}{10}

Your strategy works if you choose 1 2 \frac{1}{2} when they choose 1 2 \frac{1}{2} and 1 5 \frac{1}{5} when they choose 1 5 \frac{1}{5} instead of 1 2 \frac{1}{2} when they choose 1 5 \frac{1}{5} and 1 5 \frac{1}{5} when they choose 1 2 \frac{1}{2} .

Costumed Creeper - 2 years, 2 months ago

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