a 3 − b 3 − c 3 a 2 = = 3 a b c 2 ( b + c )
Find the triplets ( a , b , c ) ∈ Z + that satisfy the system of equations above.
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A nice way to do this problem is to factor like this: a 3 − b 3 − c 3 − 3 a b c = ( a − b − c ) ( a 2 + b 2 + c 2 + a b + a c − b c ) As a 3 − b 3 − c 3 − 3 a b c = 0 , we have that a = b + c or another expression that makes the remaining factor zero. Luckily, the remaining factor can be expressed as (with quite a bit of work lol) ( 2 a − b + c ) 2 + 4 3 ( a + b ) 2 Which means you can just ignore it, since it can only be zero if you use 0. This is because with integers a + b must be 0 since both are squares, so one of a , b is not a natural number. Interestingly, this makes the other square a + c which implies ∣ a ∣ = ∣ b ∣ = ∣ c ∣ if we're using integers to solve this particular expression! (More specifically in the form (a,-a,-a))
The system is equivalent to (where k = b + c ) { a = k a 2 = 2 k So k = 2 , and a = 2 . Thus, a + b + c = 4 since there is only one way for natural numbers to sum to two. ( ( a , b , c ) = ( 2 , 1 , 1 ) )
Well done Dylan! Seems like you got the clue im the title huh? xD Check my other 2 questions too if you like!
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Thanks! Great problem :)
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Another alternative: a 2 + b 2 + c 2 + a b + b c − c a = 2 1 [ ( a + b ) 2 + ( b + c ) 2 + ( c − a ) 2 ] .
Nice solution!
Hi! I think that the problem has more 3 solutions... The problem says Z+, so 0 is valid. So we have (0,0,0), (2, 0, 2), (2, 1, 1) and (2, 2, 0). Am I wrong? And sure, if you want I show you how I get the others solutions.
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Hi, since Z + is taking only positive integers, 0 is not included and so those solutions aren't either.
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@Dylan Pentland – Hi! Z+ is taking the non-negatives integers numbers. So, we have to include 0. Read this, please: https://proofwiki.org/wiki/Symbols:Z
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@Thiago Machado – The only similar notation I found there was Z + which I think is different. I've always known Z + to be equivalent to N , which is what I am sure was intended. I know that whether or not zero is included isn't always clear (in fact the Wikipedia page on natural numbers says that half the time 0 is included) so if you still disagree you could report the problem and ask for clearer notation. :)
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@Dylan Pentland – Yeah... The notation must be clearer... Like 0^0... I'll report this problem! Thanks. ;D
A little different approach!!
First expression implies that a − b − c = 0 giving a = b + c .Substituting this in second equation gives values of a as 0 or 2 .Therefore a = 2 .Again we know that a = 2 = b + c giving ( b , c ) = ( 1 , 1 ) as the only pair.Therefore only triplet satisfying this system is ( 2 , 1 , 1 ) .
Not so fast!You need some rigorous proof like the one Dylan Pentland has given.
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Ok i will try currently I am new to writing rigorous proofs,but I will soon learn and write another solution.Thank you for informing.
ovberrated..so simple from 1st
a=b+c
sub into 2nd
aa=2a a=2 from conditions.
only possibiity
(2,1,1)
You have only shown that one solution exists. You failed to show that it is the only solution.
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The second equation is equivalent to a 3 = 2 a ( b + c ) . We can substitute that into the first equation to get 2 a ( b + c ) − b 3 − c 3 = 3 a b c 2 a ( b + c ) − 3 a b c = b 3 + c 3 a = 2 b + 2 c − 3 b c b 3 + c 3 Since a > 0 and b 3 + c 3 > 0 , we must also have 2 b + 2 c − 3 b c > 0 . Rewriting this inequality a little gives us: b c − 3 2 ( b + c ) + 9 4 < 9 4 ( b − 3 2 ) ( c − 3 2 ) < 9 4 If b = c = 1 then this condition is met. However, if at least one of them is at least 2 , then we have ( b − 3 2 ) ( c − 3 2 ) ≥ ( 2 − 3 2 ) ( 1 − 3 2 ) = 9 4 . This is a contradiction since it implies 9 4 > 9 4 .
Hence the only possible solution occurs when b = c = 1 . Then a = 2 , so the answer is 4 .