Calculus in system of equations

Algebra Level 4

{ x 2 + y 2 = 145 x 3 + y 3 = 1729 \begin{cases}x^2+y^2=145\\ x^3+y^3=1729 \end{cases}\\

If ( x 1 , y 1 ) , ( x 2 , y 2 ) . . . ( x n , y n ) (x_1,y_1),(x_2,y_2)...(x_n,y_n) are all the positive real ordered pairs which satisfy the system of equations above,then find value of x 1 + x 2 + . . . + x n + y 1 + . . . + y n . x_1+x_2+...+x_n+y_1+...+y_n.

Note: Ordered pair means (1,2) and (2,1) are distinct


The answer is 26.

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2 solutions

Ravi Dwivedi
Jul 11, 2015

We write the system as { x 2 + y 2 = 1 2 2 + 1 2 x 3 + y 3 = 1 2 3 + 1 3 \begin{cases}x^2 + y^2=12^2 + 1^2\\ x^3+y^3=12^3 + 1^3\end{cases}

This has obvious solutions x = 12 , y = 1 x=12,y=1 and x = 1 , y = 12 x=1,y=12

Now we will show there are no other solutions in positive real numbers. If ( x , y ) (x,y) is another solution, without loss of generality we assume that x > 12 > 1 > y x>12 >1 >y (the case 12 > x y > 1 12>x \geq y >1 follows by symmetry)

Put x 1 = x 3 , y 1 = y 3 , u 1 = 1 2 3 , v 1 = 1 3 x_1=x^3,y_1=y^3,u_1=12^3,v_1=1^3

The system becomes

x 1 2 3 u 1 2 3 = v 1 2 3 y 1 2 3 x^{\frac{2}{3}}_1 - u^{\frac{2}{3}}_1=v^{\frac{2}{3}}_1-y^{\frac{2}{3}}_1

x 1 u 1 = v 1 y 1 x_1 - u_1=v_1 - y_1

Applying mean value theorem to the function f ( t ) = t 2 3 f(t)=t^{\frac{2}{3}} on the intervals [ u 1 , x 1 ] [u_1,x_1] and [ v 1 , y 1 ] [v_1,y_1] there exists t 1 ( u 1 , x 1 ) t_1\in (u_1,x_1) and t 2 ( v 1 , y 1 ) t_2\in (v_1,y_1) such that

x 1 2 3 u 1 2 3 = 2 3 t 1 1 3 ( x 1 u 1 ) x^{\frac{2}{3}}_1-u^{\frac{2}{3}}_1=\frac{2}{3}t^{\frac{-1}{3}}_1 (x_1-u_1)

v 1 2 3 y 1 2 3 = 2 3 t 2 1 3 ( v 1 y 1 ) v^{\frac{2}{3}}_1-y^{\frac{2}{3}}_1=\frac{2}{3}t^{\frac{-1}{3}}_2 (v_1-y_1)

Consequently t 1 = t 2 t_1=t_2 which is impossible since ( u 1 , x 1 ) (u_1,x_1) and ( y 1 , v 1 ) (y_1,v_1) are disjoint intervals. Hence there are no other solutions.

Final answer ( x , y ) = ( 12 , 1 ) , ( 1 , 12 ) (x,y)=(12,1),(1,12) and hence answer is 26 26

Moderator note:

I'm not sure what your cases are about. Where did 13 come from?

How can we rule out the cases where x > 12 x > 12 and y < 1 y < 1 ?

Note that there is an additional solution where x x or \y) is negative. How does your analysis suggest that such a solution exists?

Why is positive in quotation marks? Are you trying to say some other definition of positive?

Calvin Lin Staff - 5 years, 11 months ago

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Just to stress the word

Ravi Dwivedi - 5 years, 11 months ago

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No other meaning

Ravi Dwivedi - 5 years, 11 months ago

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@Ravi Dwivedi K, I've bolded it to stress the word. The quotation marks make me think that you are trying to refer to a non-standard definition of positive.

Calvin Lin Staff - 5 years, 11 months ago

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@Calvin Lin Thank you!!

Ravi Dwivedi - 5 years, 11 months ago

Sorry I need to edit this one....its typo somewhere and the mistake is everywhere after that

Really sorry for inconvenience for all of you

Ravi Dwivedi - 5 years, 11 months ago

Check this now.....I have corrected!!

Ravi Dwivedi - 5 years, 11 months ago

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Your solution is still somewhat convoluted to follow through, and you should provide explanation of what you are wanting to do, and why. E.g. if you say "We will prove by contradiction that no solution exists", then that sets up the reader's expectation, and they will be prepared to see why a contradiction exists.

Also, be careful with the labeling of your intervals. Where possible, make sure that they go from small to large.

Calvin Lin Staff - 5 years, 11 months ago
Arjen Vreugdenhil
Sep 19, 2015

The number 1729 is famous because it can be written as the sum of two perfect cubes in two different ways: 1729 = 1 0 3 + 9 3 = 1 2 3 + 1 3 . 1729 = 10^3+9^3 = 12^3+1^3. Would one of these...? Indeed, ( x , y ) = ( 12 , 1 ) (x,y) = (12,1) is a solution!

We must see if there are more solutions. Let s = x + y s = x+y . Note that 1729 = x 3 + y 3 = ( x + y ) ( x 2 + y 2 x y ) = s ( 145 x y ) ; 1729 = x^3+y^3 = (x+y)(x^2+y^2-xy) = s(145-xy); 145 = x 2 + y 2 = ( x + y ) 2 2 x y = s 2 2 x y ; 145 = x^2+y^2 = (x+y)^2-2xy = s^2-2xy; We multiply the first equation by 2 and the second equation by s s and subtract: 2 1729 145 s = s ( 2 145 2 x y ) s ( s 2 2 x y ) = 2 145 s s 3 . 2\cdot 1729 - 145\cdot s = s(2\cdot145-2xy) - s(s^2 - 2xy) = 2\cdot 145s-s^3. Thus we have a cubic equation for the sum s = x + y s = x+y : s 3 ( 3 145 ) s + 2 1729 = 0. s^3-(3\cdot 145) s+2\cdot 1729=0. Because we already have the solution s = 12 + 1 = 13 s = 12 + 1 = 13 , we factor it out: ( s 13 ) ( s 2 + 13 s 266 ) = 0. (s-13)(s^2+13s-266)=0. Equating the second factor to zero gives the additional solutions s = 13 ± 1233 2 . s=\frac{-13\pm\sqrt{1233}}{2}. The negative sign we discard, because positive values for x , y x, y means that s > 0 s > 0 as well. So focus on the case x + y = s = 13 + 1233 2 . x + y = s = \frac{-13+\sqrt{1233}}{2}. Using a previous equation, 145 = s 2 2 x y = 169 + 1233 26 1233 4 2 x y . 145 = s^2-2xy = \frac{169+1233-26\sqrt{1233}}{4}-2xy. Both x x and y y are positive precisely if x y > 0 xy > 0 . Therefore calculate: 8 x y = ( 169 + 1233 26 1233 ) 4 145 = 822 26 1233 . 8xy = (169+1233-26\sqrt{1233})-4\cdot 145 = 822-26\sqrt{1233}. Because 2 6 2 1233 = 833508 > 675684 = 82 2 2 26^2\cdot 1233 = 833508 > 675684 = 822^2 , the subtraction will have a negative value.

Thus we have not found any new solutions, and only have ( x , y ) = ( 1 , 12 ) and ( 12 , 1 ) (x,y) = (1, 12)\ \text{and}\ (12, 1) . Adding, we find the solution to be 26.

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