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Is 1992 ! 1 1992!-1 prime?

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Mohammed Zouai
Nov 22, 2015

1+9+9+2 = 21 which is a multiple of 3 so 3 devides 1992 so it's not a prime

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This solution doesn't answer the problem.

While this technically would work in most cases because the factorial's value is greater than the sum, your proof has flaws. Firstly, I think you misinterpreted the factorial notation.

Second thing to note is that the question asks if 1992 ! 1 1992! - 1 is a prime or not but your proof answers if 1992 ! 1992! is a prime or not.

Arulx Z - 5 years, 6 months ago
Dev Sharma
Nov 18, 2015

Using Wilson Theorem,

1992 ! 1 m o d 1993 1992! \equiv 1 \mod1993

1992 ! 1 0 m o d 1993 1992! - 1 \equiv 0 \mod1993

so it's not a prime...

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As pointed out by Brian, this solution is completely wrong.

Wouldn't Wilson's Theorem assert that, since 1993 1993 is prime,

1992 ! 1 ( m o d 1993 ) 1992 ! + 1 0 ( m o d 1993 ) 1992! \equiv -1 \pmod{1993} \Longrightarrow 1992! + 1 \equiv 0 \pmod{1993} ?

WolframAlpha does confirm that 1992 ! 1 1992! - 1 is indeed not prime, but as far as I can tell no analytic proof of this fact has been established. This sequence contains all n n such that n ! 1 n! - 1 is prime, but it is obtained through computational and not analytic methods.

Brian Charlesworth - 5 years, 6 months ago

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It appears that 1992 ! 1 1992! - 1 is divisible by 3449 and also by 8627.

By the way, Brian, is there such a thing as an "analytic proof" that a number is prime? Isn't it all just (more or less clever) computation?

Otto Bretscher - 5 years, 6 months ago

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Haha. Good point; it's more about the most efficient algorithm you can create. To that end, I just noticed that this was a computer science question and not number theory, so I suppose rohit was looking for just such an algorithm.

Brian Charlesworth - 5 years, 6 months ago

any proof??

Dev Sharma - 5 years, 6 months ago

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@Dev Sharma Like most issues surrounding primality, this is done by computation.

Otto Bretscher - 5 years, 6 months ago

Wolfram Alpha returns that 1992 ! 1 1992!-1 is not a prime in my case

Arulx Z - 5 years, 6 months ago

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Yes, you're right, I just forgot to type "not" in front of "prime". :P

Brian Charlesworth - 5 years, 6 months ago

how to check on wolfram alpha?

Dev Sharma - 5 years, 6 months ago

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You can either enter "is 1992! - 1 prime", the response just being that it is not a prime, or "factor 1992! - 1", which yields that 3449 and 8627 are prime factors, (although a full factorization is not provided).

Brian Charlesworth - 5 years, 6 months ago

Well I have never read wilson theorem. I just made an analysis, based on that my answer should be prime. Well does this quest. was specifically for computer science, cause I don't go to school. I am illerate 2!-1= 1 3!-1 = 5 4!-1 = 23 5!-1 = 119 6!-1 = 719 . . 10!-1 = 3628799 . . 1992!-1 = prime.

Tanmoy Chatterjee - 5 years, 6 months ago

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