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Algebra Level 2

2 x y = x \Large 2^{x^y}=x

The equation above holds true for integers x x and y y . Find x y xy .


The answer is 0.

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Chew-Seong Cheong
Oct 29, 2017

2 x y = x x y log 2 = log x x y = log x log 2 \begin{aligned} 2^{x^y} & = x \\ x^y \log 2 & = \log x \\ x^y & = \frac {\log x}{\log 2} \end{aligned}

Since the LHS x y x^y is an integer, the RHS must also be an integer. x = 2 k \implies x = 2^k , where k N k \in \mathbb N .

2 k y = log 2 k log 2 = k k y log 2 = log k k y = log k log 2 Again k = 2 n a power of 2 y = n 2 n < 1 For n N \begin{aligned} \implies 2^{ky} & = \frac {\log 2^k}{\log 2} = k \\ ky \log 2 & = \log k \\ ky & = \frac {\log k}{\log 2} & \small \color{#3D99F6} \text{Again } k = 2^n \text{ a power of }2 \\ \implies y & = \frac n{2^n} < 1 & \small \color{#3D99F6} \text{For }n \in \mathbb N \end{aligned}

Therefore, y = 0 y=0 and x y = 0 xy = \boxed{0} .

What if x = 2 k x=2^k for some k N k\in \mathbb{N} ? That's also a countable solution other than the special case of k = 1 k=1 .

Aditya Narayan Sharma - 3 years, 7 months ago

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You are right. I will have to change my solution. Thanks.

Chew-Seong Cheong - 3 years, 7 months ago

I have changed the solution.

Chew-Seong Cheong - 3 years, 7 months ago

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Yes this looks perfect, the OP should specifically mention that he wants to deal over Non-negative Integers , a bit moderation of the question would save a lot of unnecessary work of showing that the negative integers doesn't provide a solution .

Aditya Narayan Sharma - 3 years, 7 months ago

Nice explanation sir.

Rishu Jaar - 3 years, 7 months ago

what if y=1/2, and x=4!

zhang zhaoxun - 3 years, 7 months ago

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y y must be an integer.

Chew-Seong Cheong - 3 years, 7 months ago
Munem Shahriar
Oct 29, 2017

For x = 2 x = 2 and y = 0 , y= 0,

2 x y = x \large 2^{x^y} = x

2 2 0 = 2. \large \Rightarrow 2^{2^0} = 2.

Hence x y = 2 × 0 = 0 xy= 2 \times 0 = \boxed{0}

Well..............

Thanks for try....

Md Mehedi Hasan - 3 years, 7 months ago

How is 2 2 0 = 2 2^{2^0}=2

Sumukh Bansal - 3 years, 7 months ago

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2 2 0 = 2 1 = 2 2^{2^0} = 2^1 = 2

Munem Shahriar - 3 years, 7 months ago

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Thanks for support....

Md Mehedi Hasan - 3 years, 7 months ago

We know for all a 0 a\neq0 , a 0 = 1 a^0=1

So, 2 2 0 = 2 1 = 2 2^{2^0}=2^1=2

Md Mehedi Hasan - 3 years, 7 months ago

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Is this problem and solution correct @Md Mehedi Hasan

Sumukh Bansal - 3 years, 7 months ago

You can use 2^{2^0} in bracket so that it looks like 2 2 0 2^{2^0}

Md Mehedi Hasan - 3 years, 7 months ago

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I have edited it thanks

Sumukh Bansal - 3 years, 7 months ago

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@Sumukh Bansal You are most welcome...

Md Mehedi Hasan - 3 years, 7 months ago

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@Md Mehedi Hasan @Md Mehedi Hasan could you tell me if my this problem and answer is correct

Sumukh Bansal - 3 years, 7 months ago

@Md Mehedi Hasan could you tell me if my this problem and answer is correct

Sumukh Bansal - 3 years, 7 months ago

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I think it's wrong. Can you write solution? Then I'll check

Md Mehedi Hasan - 3 years, 7 months ago

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@Md Mehedi Hasan I am writing the solution but it is pretty lengthy .I have written half of it you could see that much while i complete it.

Sumukh Bansal - 3 years, 7 months ago

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@Sumukh Bansal I am linking it here

Sumukh Bansal - 3 years, 7 months ago
Gregory Lewis
Oct 29, 2017

For y>=1, 2^x^y is always greater than x.

For y<=-1, 2^x^y is always irrational, unless x=0.

So, either x=0 or y=0. That alone is enough to know the answer is 0, if there is one. But to find the actual solution:

Trying x=0, we get 1=0, so that's no good.

Trying y=0, we get 2^1=x. So the solution is x=2, y=0.

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