Challenges in mechanics by Ronak Agarwal (Part 2)

A wedge of mass m m and angle θ \theta is placed on a smooth ground. As shown in the diagram A A is a point on ground. A particle also having mass m m is dropped from a height h h at a horizontal distance x x from A A . It finally touches the ground at point B B . Find 3 A B \sqrt { 3 } AB in metres.

Details and Assumptions

1 ) 1) Take m = 5 K g m=5Kg , h = 2 2 h=2\sqrt { 2 } metre , x = 1 x=1 metre.

2 ) 2) t a n ( θ ) = 1 2 tan(\theta)=\frac { 1 }{ \sqrt { 2 } }

3 ) 3) The collision of the ball with the wedge is elastic and the wedge is free to move

4 ) 4) g = 9.8 m / s 2 g=9.8m/{ s }^{ 2 }

Also try Solve for trajectory Again .


The answer is 1.268.

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1 solution

Ronak Agarwal
Jul 7, 2014

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Since the collision was elastic we write v s e p e r a t i o n = v a p p r o a c h { v }_{ seperation }={ v }_{ approach }

hence we have v 1 + v 2 s i n ( θ ) = v c o s ( θ ) ( i ) { v }_{ 1 }+{ v }_{ 2 }sin(\theta )=vcos(\theta )\quad (i)

Also applying conservation of momentum in x-direction we get 0 = m ( v 1 s i n ( θ ) + v s i n ( θ ) c o s ( θ ) ) m ( v 2 ) 0=m({ v }_{ 1 }sin(\theta )+vsin(\theta )cos(\theta ))-m({ v }_{ 2 })

v 2 = v 1 s i n ( θ ) + v s i n ( θ ) c o s ( θ ) ( i i ) \Rightarrow \quad { v }_{ 2 }={ v }_{ 1 }sin(\theta )+vsin(\theta )cos(\theta )\quad (ii)

From (i) and (ii) we get v 1 = v c o s 3 ( θ ) 1 + s i n 2 ( θ ) ( i i i ) { v }_{ 1 }=\frac { v{ cos }^{ 3 }(\theta ) }{ 1+{ sin }^{ 2 }(\theta ) } \quad \quad (iii)

Now we will find v x a n d v y . v x = v 1 s i n ( θ ) + v s i n ( θ ) c o s ( θ ) = 2 v s i n ( θ ) c o s ( θ ) 1 + s i n 2 ( θ ) v y = v 1 c o s ( θ ) v s i n 2 ( θ ) = v ( c o s 2 ( θ ) 2 s i n 2 ( θ ) ) 1 + s i n 2 ( θ ) { v }_{ x }\quad and\quad { v }_{ y }.\\ { v }_{ x }={ v }_{ 1 }sin(\theta )+vsin(\theta )cos(\theta )\quad =\quad \frac { 2vsin(\theta )cos(\theta ) }{ 1+{ sin }^{ 2 }(\theta ) } \\ { v }_{ y }={ v }_{ 1 }cos(\theta )-v{ sin }^{ 2 }(\theta )\quad =\quad \frac { v({ cos }^{ 2 }(\theta )-2{ sin }^{ 2 }(\theta )) }{ 1+{ sin }^{ 2 }(\theta ) }

Since t a n ( θ ) = 1 2 tan(\theta )=\frac { 1 }{ \sqrt { 2 } } hence v x = v 2 , v y = 0 { v }_{ x }=\frac { v }{ \sqrt { 2 } } ,{ v }_{ y }=0

Also note that v = 2 g ( h x t a n θ ) v x = g ( h x t a n θ ) v=\sqrt { 2g(h-xtan\theta ) } \Rightarrow { v }_{ x }=\sqrt { g(h-xtan\theta ) }

Range = v x 2 x t a n θ g = 2 x t a n θ ( h x t a n θ ) { v }_{ x }\sqrt { \frac { 2xtan\theta }{ g } } =\sqrt { 2xtan\theta (h-xtan\theta ) }

Now putting x = 1 , h = 2 2 m x=1,h=2\sqrt { 2 } m we get Range = 3 \sqrt { 3 }

Now A B = R a n g e x A B = 3 1 3 A B = 3 3 AB=Range-x\quad \Rightarrow AB=\sqrt { 3 } -1 \\ \Rightarrow \boxed { \sqrt { 3 } AB=3-\sqrt { 3 } }

Thanks for the marvelous questions!

Felipe Hofmann - 6 years, 10 months ago

@Ronak Agarwal Can you please post the solution to Challenges in mechanics by Ronak Agarwal(Part4) . It's the best mechanics question I have seen on this site and I can't get the correct answer even after trying several times. I used the equations for IAOR, conservation of energy and conservation of momentum along with the fact that component of velocity along the rod for all points on the rod will be the same, but somehow the expression in the final answer i.e. 2 b + c + d a 2b+c+d-a is coming out to be negative and hence its square root is coming out to be an imaginary quantity. Please Help.

Samuel Jones - 6 years, 8 months ago

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Sorry to say but I don't have enough time to put up a solution to the question, you can post a note asking the solvers of this question to put up a solution. Sorry again.

Ronak Agarwal - 6 years, 8 months ago

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@Ronak Agarwal Ok, sorry to bother you. But can you please comment a little hint. I very will be grateful.

Samuel Jones - 6 years, 8 months ago

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@Samuel Jones Firstly go into the frame of wedge, then locate the IAOR of the rod assume rod to be completely rotating about that point, then write equations for conservation of linear momentum, energy and solve for all the possible variables.

Ronak Agarwal - 6 years, 8 months ago

@Samuel Jones Can you please tell exactly what answer you are getting.

Ronak Agarwal - 6 years, 8 months ago

why can we apply newtons experimental law here ?(v sep = v approach )

Prashant Pandey - 6 years, 10 months ago

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you can apply it where there is macroscopic collisions.

Gautam Sharma - 6 years, 9 months ago

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It actually follows from the definition of the coefficient of restitution as a ratio of 2 impulses

Suhas Sheikh - 3 years ago

I have given in the question that the collision was elastic.

Ronak Agarwal - 6 years, 10 months ago

But what about the wedge? It will move too. So, shouldn't the point A be displaced?

Mahathir Ahmad - 6 years, 8 months ago

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Ahh, read the question carefully, I said A is a point on the ground. And refer the diagram for point A.

Ronak Agarwal - 6 years, 8 months ago

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Yeah Answered 6 -√3 The first time XD

Suhas Sheikh - 3 years ago

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