Circles, Tangents, And Triangles (Oh My...)

Geometry Level 5

The red circle has radius 3 and the blue circle has radius 4. The tangents to one of their points of intersection, P 1 , P_1, are perpendicular.

The green circle is centered at the other point of intersection, P 2 , P_2, and passes through P 1 . P_1. It also intersects the red and blue circles at P 3 P_3 and P 4 , P_4, respectively.

What is the length of the altitude from P 1 P_1 in triangle P 1 P 3 P 4 ? P_1P_3P_4?

144 35 \dfrac{144}{35} 24 5 \dfrac{24}{5} 36 7 \dfrac{36}{7} 576 125 \dfrac{576}{125} 5 5

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3 solutions

Ahmad Saad
Oct 22, 2016

Let the blue tangent intersect the red circle at B, let the red tangent intersect the blue circle at C.
Let the center of the red circle be X and the center of the blue circle be Y.
We are given m B P 1 C = 9 0 . m\angle BP_1C = 90^\circ .
Adding the sides and angles as indicated on the diagram, m 1 + m 2 = 9 0 . m\angle 1 + m\angle 2 = 90^\circ .

Lemma 1: P 1 P 2 B P_1P_2 B is a right triangle
Since the blue tangent is perpendicular to the red tangent, hence the blue tangent passes through the center of the red circle and P 1 B P_1 B is the diameter of the red circle. Thus P 1 P 2 B = 9 0 \angle P_1 P_2 B = 90 ^ \circ .

Lemma 2: B P 2 C B P_2 C is a straight line.
We already have P 1 P 2 B = 9 0 \angle P_1 P_2 B = 90 ^ \circ . Similarly, P 1 P 2 C = 9 0 \angle P_1P_2 C = 90 ^ \circ . Thus, B P 2 C B P_2 C is a straight line.

Lemma 3: P 3 P 2 P 4 P_3 P_2 P_4 is a straight line.
Triangles X P 2 P 1 XP_2 P_1 and X P 2 P 3 X P_2 P_3 are congurent (SSS), hence P 1 P 2 P 3 = 2 X P 2 P 1 \angle P_1P_2P_3 = 2 \angle XP_2 P_1 .
Similarly, Triangles Y P 2 P 1 YP_2 P_1 and Y P 2 P 4 Y P_2 P_4 are congurent (SSS), hence P 1 P 2 P 4 = 2 Y P 2 P 1 \angle P_1P_2P_4 = 2 \angle YP_2 P_1 .
Since X P 1 Y P 2 XP_1 Y P_2 is a kite, hence X P 2 Y = X P 1 Y = 9 0 \angle XP_2 Y = \angle XP_1 Y = 90 ^ \circ .

Thus, P 1 P 2 P 3 + P 1 P 2 P 4 = 2 ( X P 2 P 1 + Y P 2 P 1 ) = 2 ( X P 2 Y ) = 18 0 \angle P_1 P_2 P_3 + \angle P_1 P_2P_4 = 2 ( \angle XP_2 P_1 + \angle Y P_2 P_1 ) = 2 ( \angle XP_2 Y) = 180^ \circ .

Lemma 4: P 3 P 1 P 4 P_3 P_1 P_4 is a right triangle.
P 3 P 1 B = P 3 P 2 B = P 4 P 2 C = P 4 P 1 C \angle P_3 P_1 B = \angle P_3 P_2 B = \angle P_4 P_2 C = \angle P_4 P_1 C .
Hence P 3 P 1 P 4 = P 3 P 1 B + B P 1 P 4 = P 4 P 1 C + B P 1 P 4 = B P 1 C = 9 0 \angle P_3 P_1 P_4 = \angle P_3 P_1 B + \angle BP_1P_4 = \angle P_4 P_1 C + \angle BP_1 P_4 = \angle BP_1 C = 90 ^ \circ .

Finally, we are ready to do the calculations:

m P 1 P 2 = m P 1 B m P 1 C / m B C = 6 8 / 10 = 24 5 m\overline{P_1P_2} = m\overline{P_1B} \cdot m\overline{P_1C} / m\overline{BC} = 6 \cdot 8 / 10 = \frac{24}{5}

sin ( 1 ) = cos ( 2 ) = 3 5 \sin(\angle 1) = \cos(\angle 2) = \frac{3}{5}

cos ( 1 ) = 4 5 \cos(\angle 1) = \frac{4}{5}

m P 1 P 3 = 2 m P 1 P 2 cos ( 2 ) = 144 25 m\overline{P_1P_3} = 2 \cdot m\overline{P_1P_2} \cos(\angle 2) = \frac{144}{25}

m P 1 P 4 = 2 m P 1 P 2 cos ( 1 ) = 192 25 m\overline{P_1P_4} = 2 \cdot m\overline{P_1P_2} \cos(\angle 1) = \frac{192}{25}

m P 3 P 4 = 2 m P 1 P 2 = 48 5 m\overline{P_3P_4} = 2 \cdot m\overline{P_1P_2} = \frac{48}{5}

Then the altitude of the triangle P 3 P 1 P 4 P_3P_1P_4 is m P 1 H = m P 1 P 3 m P 1 P 4 / m P 3 P 4 = 576 125 . m\overline{P_1H} = m\overline{P_1P_3} \cdot m\overline{P_1P_4} / m\overline{P_3P_4} = \frac{576}{125} .

How do you know that P 2 , P 3 , P 4 P_2,P_3,P_4 are collinear? It's true, but not given as an assumption in the problem.

Eli Ross Staff - 4 years, 7 months ago

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< P3P2B = < P4P2C

< P3P2P1 = <BP2P1 - < P3P2B = 90 - < P3P2B

< P4P2P1 = < CP2P1 + < P4P2C = 90 + < P4P2C

adding above two equations

< P3P2P1 + < P4P2P1 = 180 deg. -----> P3 , P2 , P4 are collinear.

Ahmad Saad - 4 years, 7 months ago

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems to me that the first line is true by assuming that P 2 , P 3 , P 4 P_2, P_3, P_4 are collinear (vertical angles). This makes the argument circular.

Calvin Lin Staff - 4 years, 7 months ago

@ahmad saad Thanks for the great solution. I have 2 suggestions

  1. Leaving the text outside of the image, so that we can easily make edits to it.
  2. It would be nice if you used Latex to write the equations, which makes it easier for others to read it. If you're not comfortable doing so, you can request for help and we can get you started on the process.

Calvin Lin Staff - 4 years, 7 months ago

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Thanks for your great recommendation.

But, I suffer from some pains after open heart surgery and just help myself to forget the pain and to activate my memory from oblivion because of enlarge my age by solving math problems without fatigue as much as possible..

Ahmad Saad - 4 years, 7 months ago

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I'm glad Brilliant is a natural pain reliever for you :) In fact, I'm heard similar stories from other members that by focusing on the Brilliant problems and being so engrossed in them, they are temporarily able to forget the pain that they are in. I wish that the only problems that you have are Brilliant ones :)

For solutions, if you provide enough context, we can help to improve the readability and hence understanding of your solution. For example, It will be great if you can define the points that are used.

Calvin Lin Staff - 4 years, 7 months ago

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@Calvin Lin Many thanks.

Ahmad Saad - 4 years, 7 months ago

I was always wondering where almost all these UNIQUE and BEAUTIFUL solution, with scaled diagrams, came from. Ye, the same person who has beautiful solution even for his physical pain. Salute to you Ahmad Saad.

Niranjan Khanderia - 4 years, 7 months ago

Beautiful unique solution. We may use the fact that P 1 P 2 P 4 P_1P_2P_4 is a 3-4-5 triangle alternately. Up voted.

Niranjan Khanderia - 4 years, 7 months ago

P l e a s e s e e t h e F i g . F i g . 1 s h o w s t h e p r o b l e m . O 4 P 1 O 3 i s g i v e n a s 9 0 o . F i g . 2 f i n d s o u t t h e l e n g t h o f P 1 P 3 = p = 24 5 F i g . 3 f i n d s o u t t h e l e n g t h o f P 1 P 2 = q = 144 25 , a n d S i n α . F i g . 4 f i n d s o u t t h e l e n g t h o f P 1 P 4 = r = 192 25 , a n d S i n β . F i g . 5 a t t o p r i g h t g e t s t h e a n s w e r . Please\ see\ the\ Fig.\\ Fig.\ 1 \ shows\ the\ problem. \ \angle \ O_4P_1O_3\ is\ given\ as\ 90^o. \\ Fig.\ 2\ finds\ out\ the\ length\ of\ P_1P_3=p=\frac {24}{5} \\ Fig.\ 3\ finds\ out\ the\ length\ of\ P_1P_2=q=\frac {144}{25} \\ , \ \ \ and\ \ Sin\alpha .\\ Fig.\ 4\ finds\ out\ the\ length\ of\ P_1P_4=r=\frac {192}{25} \\ , \ \ \ and\ \ Sin\beta.\\ Fig.\ 5 \ at\ top\ right \ gets\ the\ answer.

All three solutions Fig. 2 to Fig. 4 are based on properties of isosceles triangle and its half as a right triangle.

Ritabrata Roy
Jul 14, 2018

If you are comfortable,use co ordinate geometry to do easily.

Let, P1(0,0) Notice, the centre of the circle of radii 4 lies on the tangent of circle of radii 3 and its centre is C1(4,0) Similarly the centre of the circle of radii 3 lies on C2(0,3)

Note P1P2=24/5 ( easy to evaluate)
It is also the radii of circle with centre P2.



 Equation of circle with centre C1,C2,P1 are respectively

  1).    (x-4)^2+y^2=4^2
  2).     x^2+(y-3)^2=3^2
  3).     x^2+y^2=(24/5)^2

Solving 1) and 3 ) we get a value of P3(72/25,-96/25)

Solving 2) and 3) We get P4(-72/25,96/25)

*Equation of P3P4=100x-75y-576=0
Perpendicular from P1(0,0) is

P=|100(0)+(-75)(0)+(-576)|/√(100^2+75^2)

   =576/125☺☺☺

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