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( 52 + 6 43 ) 3 / 2 ( 52 6 43 ) 3 / 2 = ? (52 + 6\sqrt{43} )^{3/2}- (52 - 6\sqrt{43})^{3/2} = \, ?


The answer is 828.

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2 solutions

Chung Kevin
Mar 1, 2016

Let y y denote the value of the expression in question, and let x = ( 52 + 6 43 ) 1 / 2 ( 52 6 43 ) 1 / 2 x = (52 + 6\sqrt{43} )^{1/2} - (52 - 6\sqrt{43} )^{1/2} , and we hope to find a relationship between x x and y y .

By squaring the equation x = ( 52 + 6 43 ) 1 / 2 ( 52 6 43 ) 1 / 2 x = (52 + 6\sqrt{43} )^{1/2} - (52 - 6\sqrt{43} )^{1/2} , (recall the identity, ( a b ) 2 = a 2 + b 2 2 a b (a-b)^2 = a^2+b^2-2ab ) we have

x 2 = [ ( 52 + 6 43 ) 1 / 2 ( 52 6 43 ) 1 / 2 ] 2 = [ ( 52 + 6 43 ) + ( 52 6 43 ) 2 ( 52 + 6 43 ) ( 52 6 43 ) ] = [ ( 52 + 6 43 ) + ( 52 6 43 ) 2 5 2 2 6 2 ( 43 ) ] = [ 2 ( 52 ) 2 3 4 2 ] = 36 x = 6 \begin{aligned} x^2 &=& \left [ (52 + 6\sqrt{43} )^{1/2} - (52 - 6\sqrt{43} )^{1/2} \right ]^2 \\ &=& \left [ (52 + 6\sqrt{43} ) + (52 - 6\sqrt{43} ) - 2 \sqrt{(52 + 6\sqrt{43} )(52 - 6\sqrt{43} )} \right ] \\ &=& \left [ (52 + \bcancel{6\sqrt{43}} ) + (52 - \bcancel{6\sqrt{43}} ) - 2 \sqrt{52^2 - 6^2 (43)} \right ] \\ &=& \left [ 2(52) - 2 \sqrt{34^2} \right ] \\ &=& 36 \\ x &=& 6 \end{aligned}

Note that we take the positive x x only because x x is 52 + 6 43 > 52 6 43 > 0 ( 52 + 6 43 ) 1 / 2 > ( 52 6 43 ) 1 / 2 x > 0 52 + 6\sqrt{43} > 52 - 6\sqrt{43} >0 \Rightarrow (52 + 6\sqrt{43} )^{1/2} > (52 - 6\sqrt{43} )^{1/2}\Rightarrow x> 0 .

Similarly, raising both sides of the equation x = ( 52 + 6 43 ) 1 / 2 ( 52 6 43 ) 1 / 2 x = (52 + 6\sqrt{43} )^{1/2} - (52 - 6\sqrt{43} )^{1/2} by 3, (recall the identity, ( a b ) 3 = a 3 + b 3 3 a b ( a b ) (a-b)^3 = a^3+b^3-3ab(a-b) ) we have

x 3 = ( 52 + 6 43 ) 3 / 2 ( 52 6 43 ) 3 / 2 3 ( 52 + 6 43 ) ( 52 6 43 ) x 6 3 = y 3 5 2 2 6 2 43 6 216 = y 18 3 4 2 y = 828 \begin{aligned} x^3 &=& (52 + 6\sqrt{43} )^{3/2} - (52 - 6\sqrt{43} )^{3/2} - 3\sqrt{(52 + 6\sqrt{43} )(52 - 6\sqrt{43} )} \cdot x \\ 6^3 &=& y - 3 \sqrt{52^2- 6^2 \cdot 43} \cdot 6 \\ 216 &=& y - 18 \sqrt{34^2} \\ y &=& \boxed{828} \end{aligned}

Otto Bretscher
Mar 27, 2015

We first find the square roots, making the Ansatz 52 + 6 43 = a + b 43 \sqrt{52+6\sqrt{43}}=a+b\sqrt{43} . Squaring both sides we want a 2 + 43 b 2 = 52 a^2+43b^2=52 and 2 a b = 6 2ab=6 , with the positive solution a = 3 , b = 1 a=3,b=1 . Thus 52 + 6 43 = 3 + 43 \sqrt{52+6\sqrt{43}}=3+\sqrt{43} . Likewise, 52 6 43 = 3 + 43 \sqrt{52-6\sqrt{43}} = -3+\sqrt{43} . Using the Binomial Theorem, we find ( 52 + 6 43 ) 3 / 2 ( 52 6 43 ) 3 / 2 (52+6\sqrt{43})^{3/2}-(52-6\sqrt{43})^{3/2} = ( 3 + 43 ) 3 ( 3 + 43 ) 3 (3+\sqrt{43})^3-(-3+\sqrt{43})^3 = 3 3 + 3 × 3 2 43 + 3 × 3 × 43 + 43 43 3^3+3\times3^2\sqrt{43}+3\times3\times43+43\sqrt{43}- ( 3 3 + 3 × 3 2 43 3 × 3 × 43 + 43 43 ) ( -3^3+3\times3^2\sqrt{43}-3\times3\times43+43\sqrt{43}) = 2 × 3 3 + 2 × 3 2 × 43 = 828 =2\times3^3+2\times3^2\times43=828 .

Why isn't it possible that a = 1 , b = 3 a = 1 , b =3 ?

Noor MAlik - 5 years, 11 months ago

Why can't 52 6 43 52-6\sqrt{43} be equal to ( 3 43 ) 2 (3-\sqrt{43})^2 ? How can you be certain that it is equal to ( 43 3 ) 2 (\sqrt{43}-3)^2

Rishik Jain - 5 years, 3 months ago

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Well, it's equal to both ;)

Otto Bretscher - 5 years, 3 months ago

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Won't it affect the answer? Here's what I mean,

Case 1: ( 3 + 43 ) 3 ( 3 43 ) 3 = 140 43 (3+\sqrt{43})^3 - (3-\sqrt{43})^3=140\sqrt{43}

Case 2: ( 43 + 3 ) 3 ( 43 3 ) 3 = 828 (\sqrt{43}+3)^3 - (\sqrt{43}-3)^3=828

So we have two answers. Can you contradict the first case somehow? Thanks.

Rishik Jain - 5 years, 3 months ago

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@Rishik Jain I answered the question you asked: 52 6 43 = ( 3 43 ) 2 = ( 43 3 ) 2 52-6\sqrt{43}=(3-\sqrt{43})^2=(\sqrt{43}-3)^2 . Now 52 6 43 \sqrt{52-6\sqrt{43}} is non-negative, by definition, so that it is 43 3 \sqrt{43}-3 .

Otto Bretscher - 5 years, 3 months ago

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@Otto Bretscher Sir, in the question, it is not of the form of square roots.

Rishik Jain - 5 years, 3 months ago

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@Rishik Jain Wow, you are persistent ;)

For a positive x x you have, by definition, x 3 / 2 = x 3 x^{3/2}=\sqrt{x^3}

Otto Bretscher - 5 years, 3 months ago

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@Otto Bretscher Ok, Thanks for clarifying the doubt.

Rishik Jain - 5 years, 3 months ago

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@Rishik Jain In particular, ( 8 ) 2 = 8 \sqrt{ (-8)^2 } = 8 .

Remember that for real numbers, x 2 = x \sqrt{x^2} = |x| , and not just x x .

Calvin Lin Staff - 5 years, 3 months ago

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