⎩ ⎪ ⎪ ⎨ ⎪ ⎪ ⎧ a ( b + c ) = 3 2 b ( c + a ) = 6 5 c ( a + b ) = 7 7
Given that a , b , and c are positive real numbers that satisfy the system of equations above, find the value of a b c .
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Could you maybe expand your solution a little bit more please?
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Hint: state 8 7 − 3 2 , 8 7 − 6 5 , 8 7 − 7 7 in terms of the 3 given equations and a b + b c + c a
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Still doesn't make sense
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@Jonas Senzige – Try expanding the polynomials, e.g. a(b+c)=ab+ac, so ab+ac=32, ba(ab)+bc=65, ca(ac)+cb(bc)=77. Hint:sum them up :)
Smarter way
It's Heron's formula. He interpreted it geometrically, utilising this formula.
can you pls mention the basic formula used in 2nd step. I also strtd to solve dis way.
Dddd, can you explain your method?
It definitely feels intuitively right but I don't know why. It reminds me of statistical deviation.
Shortest way is the best way
This method is outstanding.
Get the value of ab + bc + ac by adding all 3 given equations and dividing by 2. Then:
bc = (ab + bc + ac) - a(b + c) = 87 - 32 = 55 ac = (ab + bc + ac) - b(c + a) = 87 - 65 = 22 ab = (ab + bc + ac) - c(a + b) = 87 - 77 = 10
abc = √ (ab . bc . ac) = √ (5x11 x 2x11 x 2x5) = 2 x 5 x 11 = 110
Great work!!
⎩ ⎪ ⎨ ⎪ ⎧ a ( b + c ) = 3 2 b ( c + a ) = 6 5 c ( a + b ) = 7 7
⇒ ⎩ ⎪ ⎨ ⎪ ⎧ a b + c a = 3 2 b c + a b = 6 5 c a + b c = 7 7
Equation 2 - equation 1:
⇒ { b c − c a = 3 3 c a + b c = 7 7
Add the two equations together:
⇒ 2 b c = 1 1 0 ⇒ b c = 5 5
Substituting b c = 5 5 in the appropriate equations, we get a b = 1 0 and c a = 2 2 .
Therefore,
a b × b c × c a = 1 0 × 5 5 × 2 2
( a b c ) 2 = 2 2 5 2 1 1 2 = ( 1 1 0 ) 2 ⇒ a b c = 1 1 0
same here ;)
solve eq. 3rd first a=2,b=5,c=11 hence 3rd condition is fullfill and also other eq
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How did you solve the equation?
unnecessary step, once you have the values and you clearly have each term squared you can solve directly no need to solve for each variable
From eq 3. c=7 and a=6,b=5 or 7 &4. So solution can not directly conclude from 3rd eq.
77+65-32=110
how did you get bc - ca? how can you subtract those two equations?
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b c + a b − ( a b + c a ) = 6 5 − 3 2 ⇒ b c − c a = 3 3
by solving the three equations : ab = 10 bc = 55 ac=22 c=22/a b=10/a a=2 b=5 c=11 then abc = 110
I also solved it this way...
Cheong's approach is the right approach to the question
c'mon I look dumb
After getting bc=55 , No need to substitute back into the equations , as 55 is factored into prime numbers then 55=5 11 then from eqn a(b+c) = 32 => a(5+11) =32 or a(11+5) =32 then a= 2 at last , a b c= 2 5*11 = 110
Can it b done within a short time!
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Yes, sum all equation and divide by 2 , you will get ab+bc+ac=87, so next subtract all equation from this equation, you will get bc = 55, ca =22 , ab = 10. Then multiply these 3, get (abc)^2 = 12100, abc = 110.
Yeah, get all the factors of each number and then use trial and error. A = 2 or 4 or 8 or 16 B = 5 or 13 C = 7 or 11
First try: if A = 2, then 32/2 = 16 so b+c = 16. This is true for b = 5 and c =11 Confirm with the other two equations, they are all true then 2 * 5 * 11 = 110
process of elimination and a real simple trial and error works here too. one of the equations kinda gives this away.
only one combination of numbers gets you 77 and that is 7 and 11.
that means c=either 7 or 11 and (a+b) is the other.
using the value of c as 11 in the first equation makes b only possible as being 5 and a only possible as being 2. these values prove out on the middle equation as well.
2x5x11 = 110
Kudos! did it the same way :)
I did as well with the second and 3rd statements be products of primes and the first statement being a prime power of 2 it worked well as a logic problem.
a b c are real numbers 11 and 7 aren't the only possible solutions for xy=77
Let ab=X
bc=Y
ac=Z
T h e n , X + Z = 3 2
X + Y = 6 5
Y + Z = 7 7
X + Y + Z = ( 3 2 + 6 5 + 7 7 ) / 2 = 8 7
H e n c e , X = 8 7 − 7 7 = 1 0
Y = 8 7 − 3 2 = 5 5
Z = 8 7 − 6 5 = 2 2
X Y Z = ( a b ) ( b c ) ( a c ) = ( a b c ) 2 = 5 5 ∗ 2 2 ∗ 1 0 = 1 1 2 ∗ 1 0 2
a b c = 1 1 ∗ 1 0 = 1 1 0
Why u devide on 2
I did trial and error: 65 had to be 5 x 13 and 77 = 7 x 11, noting that two of those four numbers, 5 and 11, add to 16, a factor of 32...QED
@Barry, that was my solution as well. c = 7 or 11; b = 5 or 13; so, b+c = 12, 16, 20, or 24 but, a(b+c) = 32, so b+c = 16 that means b=5, c=11, a=2; abc = 110
Richard even i did that!
my method was a more novel one even though it was risky...I didn't solve it by algebra but by reasoning...for that I had to take the risk of assuming that a, b and c are integers!!! I started from the last equation and deduced that c could either be 11 or 7 as 77 has only these as its integral factors. Therefore b+a would be either 7 or 11. then I turned to the second equation and saw that b could either be 13 or 5 but if b would be 13 then b+a not= 7 and b+a not =11 as both a and b are positive hence we get b=5 and c+a=13... now as pointed out earlier c could either be 11 or 7 which gives a=2 or a=6... but looking at the first equation a can never be 6 b'cuz 6 is not a factor of 32, hence a=2.. so abc=2x5x11=110... It may look lengthy, but it is far more easier than solving the equations thing and certainly more professional..The only catch is the assumption that we took that all of them are integers which I was 95% sure would be the case!!!
simplify and perform addition and subtraction on equation
you will get ab: 10 bc: 55 ac: 22
multiply all, you ll get
ab bc ac = 55 22 10 ( 5 11 2 11 2*5)
take root of this
abc = 110
SOLVE : Given, a(b+c)=32 ---(1) b(c+a)=65 ---(2) c(a+b)=77 ---(3)
Now adding (1),(2),(3) => a(b+c) + b(c+a) +c(a+b) =32+65+77 =>2(ab+bc+ca) =174 [ ̇. ̇ a(b+c) + b(c+a) + c(a+b) = 2(ab+bc+ca) ] => ab+bc+ca = 87 We have to find the value of abc . abc = √ ̅ ̅ ̅(a²b²c²) = √ ̅(bc.ca.ab) = √ ̅ ̅ [{ab+bc+ca-a(b+c)} {ab+bc+ca-b(c+a)} {ab+bc+ca-c(a+b)}] = √ ̅ ̅ { (87-32) (87-65) (87-77) } = √ ̅ (55x22x10) = √ ̅ ̅ (12100) = 110
Yet another way. My idea was to factor the numbers and check for integer solutions, which I found right away, as there were not many combinations to try:
⎩ ⎪ ⎨ ⎪ ⎧ a ( b + c ) = 2 5 b ( c + a ) = 5 ⋅ 1 3 c ( a + b ) = 7 ⋅ 1 1
In the 3rd equation, if c = 1 1 , then a + b = 7 . In the second, if b = 5 , then a must be 2 and this value also satisfies a + c = 1 3 (So far, so good!). We finally check if these values satisfy the first equation: 2 ⋅ ( 5 + 1 1 ) = 3 2 (They do!).
Therefore, a b c = 2 ⋅ 5 ⋅ 1 1 = 1 1 0
My solution won't work for every simultaneous equation, but it's quite simple for this one, and doesn't require the use of a calculator. First split each of the totals into their prime factors.
32 => 2^5
65 => 13 * 5
77 => 11 * 7
We notice that 65 and 77 have only two factors. This means that b must be 13 or 5 and c must be 11 or 7.
Using equation 1, b+c must be power of 2, so we can deduce that b must be 5 and c must be 11 to give b+c = 16.
a * 16 = 32: a = 2
a * b * c = 2 * 5 * 11 = 110
a(b+c)=32
b(c+a)=65
c(a+b)=77
that means that a is 2 or 4 or 8 or 16 or 32
and b is or 5 or 13
and c is 7 or 11
so b must be 5 and c must be 11 why ?
bec the sum of b + c must be a factor of 32 and 5 + 11 = 16 that an factor of 32
so a must be 2 why ?
bec 32 / (b + c) = a so 32 / 16 = 2
now abc = 2 * 5 * 11 = 110
a(b+c)= 32 = ab + ac
b(c+a)= 65 = bc+ac
c(a+b)= 77 = ac+bc
2ab+2ac+2bc=32+65+77=174
2ab+2ac+2bc-ab-ac-ab-ac= 2bc=110
bc= 55
2ab+2ac+2bc-ab-bc-ab-bc= 2ac=44
ac= 22
2ab+2ac+2bc-bc-ac-bc-ac= 2ab=20
ab= 10
ac*bc = 1210
abc*c when divided by ab = 1210 divided by 10
= c*c= 121
c= 11
therefore
ab c = 10 11
abc= 110_
by solving the three equations : ab = 10 bc = 55 ac=22 c=22/a b=10/a a=2 b=5 c=11 then abc = 110
expand equations into (1),(2),(3) find (2)-(1),(3)-(2),(3)-(1) and assume them as (4),(5),(6) find(3)+(6) to get bc=55 find (1)+(5) to get ac=22 divide bc and ac to get b/a=5/2--->b=5/2a substitute b=5/2a in (5) to get a=2 multiply a*bc to get abc=110 therefore, abc=110
a(b+c)=32 (1) b(c+a)=65 (2) c(a+b)=77 (3)
Cộng cả 3 vế 3 đẳng thức đã cho theo vế ta được : 2(ab+bc+ca)=174 Từ đó suy ra : ab+bc+ca=87 (4)
Từ (1)+(4) ta được : bc+a(b+c)=87 => bc=87-a(b+c)=87-32=55 Tương tự : (2)+(4) : ca=22 (3)+(4) : ab=10 Nhân các vế lại với nhau ta được : (abc)^2=55x22x10=12100 => abc=110 (ok)
ab+ac=32 ab=32-ac
bc+ba=65
ca+cb=77 ac=77-cb
bc=32-ac=65 bc=32+cb-77=65 bc=55 55+ba=65 ba=10 ca=22 (55/b)(10/b)=22 22 b b=550 b=5 c=11 a=2 abc=110
a(b+c)=32, i.e. ab+ac=32 ...(1)
b(c+a)=65, i.e. bc+ab=65 ...(2)
c(a+b)=77, i.e. ac+bc=77 ...(3)
subtracting (2) from (1)
ac-bc = -33 ...(4)
adding (4) and (3)
2ac=44
ac=22
from (1) ab=10
from (3) bc=55
now, ac * ab * bc = 22 * 10 * 55 = 12100
therefore, (abc)^2 = 12100
therefore, abc = 110
W h e n I r e m o v e d t h e b r a c k e t s I g o t a b + c a = 3 2 . . . ( B ) b c + a b = 6 5 . . . ( C ) c a + b c = 7 7 . . . ( A ) N o t h i n g s p e c i a l ? M a y b e . I g o t v a l u e o f 2 a b + 2 c a + 2 b c s t a r i n g a t m e A n d v a l u e s o f a b , b c & a c s m i l i n g a t m e . w h a t t o d o w i t h a b , b c & a c ? m u l t i p l y ? Y e a h ! T h a t ′ s t h e s o l u t i o n d i s s o l v i n g t h e p r o b l e m . u s i n g : a b + c a + b c = 8 7 . & a b + A = 8 7 ; b c + B = 8 7 ; c a + C = 8 7 , g o t a b , b c & c a ( 1 0 , 5 5 & 2 2 r e s p e c t i v e l y ) N o w , l e t s d i s s o l v e i t : m u l t i p l y i n g a b , b c & c a w e g e t t h i s : ( a b c ) 2 = 2 2 × 1 0 × 5 5 g i v i n g a b c = 1 1 0 . T a d a !
Note that from subtracting the three equations:
ac + cb - bc - ab - ab - ac = 77 - 65 - 32 = -20
ab = 10
So from first equation then:
10 + ac = 32 => ac = 22
Second equation:
bc + 10 = 65 => bc = 55
Now:
(ab)(ac)(bc) = 10 22 55
abc = sqrt(10 22 55) = 110
⎩ ⎪ ⎨ ⎪ ⎧ a ( b + c ) = 3 2 b ( c + a ) = 6 5 c ( a + b ) = 7 7
adding 1 s t with 2 n d and subtracting 3 r d :
a b = 1 0 ; (i)
adding 1 s t and 3 r d and subctracting 2 n d :
a c = 2 2 ; (ii)
adding 2 n d and 3 r d and subctracting 1 s t :
b c = 5 5 ; (iii)
from (i): a = b 1 0 ; substituting in (ii) and (iii):
b 1 0 c = 2 2 ; c = 1 0 2 2 b ; multiplying by b and remembering (iii):
1 0 2 2 b 2 = 5 5 ; b 2 = 2 5 ; b = 5 ; (iv)
substituting in (iii) and (i):
c = 1 1 ; a = 2 ;
a , b , c = ( 2 , 5 , 1 1 ) ; a b c = 1 1 0
Add all 3 solutions, we'll get 2(ab+bc+ca)= 174 hence ab+bc+ca=87............equation-4 now, subtract, eq-1 from eq-4 eq-2 from eq-4 eq-3 from eq-4, which gives bc=55 ac=22 ab=10 From bc and ac "c is common" and in 55 and 22 "11 is common factor" so, c=11 a=2, b=5 hence, abc=110
Adding all eqtn and dividing by 2 we get ab+ac+bc=87 Using this in all the eqn we get ab=10 bc=55 ac=22 ab*ac=a²bc=220 Hence,a²=4 a=2 And so on, b=5 c=11 So, abc=110
Adding the equations,
2(ab+bc+ca) = 174,
ab+bc+ca = 87.
Subtracting the three given equations from this equation to obtain bc = 55, ac = 22, and ab = 10. Multiplying these three new equations to yield
(abc)^2 = 5 * 11 * 2 * 11* 2 * 5,
abc = 5 * 11 * 2 = 110.
Note: There are two correct answers, 110 and -110, since a=-2, b=-5, c=-11 is solution too.
Sorry, "a, b and c are positive real numbers"
a(b+c)=32 b(c+a)=65 c(a+b)=77 now add those 3 eq ab+bc+ac= 174/3=87 abc=((87-32)*(87-65)8(87-77))1/2 abc=110
subtracting eq 3 of 2, eq 3 of 1 and eq 2 of 1 we get 4: a(c-b)=12 5: b(c-a)=45 6: c(b-a)=33 so we get that 1<=a<b<c from eq 3 we know that c must be 7 or 11, and eq 6 tells us that c is 3 or 11, so c=11 similarly, eq 2 give us b=5 or 13 ; eq 5 says that b can't be worth 13, so b=5 now we may activate eq 1 and get that a=2 a b c=110
a(b+c)=3 ...equ(1) b(c+a)=6 ...equ(2) c(a+b)=77 ...equ(3) from equ(1)+equ(2)+equ(3)... ab+bc+ca=87 ...equ(4) solving equ(4) & equ(1)..we get bc=55 ...equ(5) simlary by solving equ(2) & equ(3) with equ(4) we get ab=10 ...equ(6) ca=22 ...equ(7) Now multiply equ(5),equ(6) & equ(7) { a }^{ 2 }{ b }^{ 2 }{ c }^{ 2 }=12100 abc=sqrt { 12100 } abc=110
There are so many ways to solve the system equations. (i) trial and error method: solve eq (i) first a=2,b=5,c=11 hence first condition is fulfilled and equations too. so (abc) =2 5 11=110. (ii) simultaneous equations: Note that subtracting equations (2) and (3) from the first equation, we get ac + cb - bc - ab - ab - ac = 77 - 65 - 32 = -20 ab = 10 So from first equation then: 10 + ac = 32 => ac = 22 Second equation: bc + 10 = 65 => bc = 55 Now (ab)(ac)(bc) = 10 22 55 (abc)^2= (10 22 55) abc = sqrt(10 22 55) = 110
c(a+b)-a(b+c)=77-32=45 b(c-a)=45 and b(c+a)=65 (c-a)/(c+a)=45\65=9\13 (c-a)+(c+a)/(c-a)-(c+a)=9+13/9-13=>2c/2a=22/4=11/2 c=11,a=2 then b=5 so abc=110
Multiplying given equations,and sutracting then adding we get 2bc =110 so bc ==55,substituting this value we getvalues of a=2,b=5 ans c = 11 therefore,abc =110. also by clue from value 77 equation we can guess value of c =11 therefore a+b will be 7 ,then we get a=2 and b =5 Ans K.K.GARG,india
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Is this the solution ..... @Jai Gupta
(ab+bc+ca)=(32+65+77)/2 =87,
b(a+c)=87-c*a,
5(11+2)=87-(2*11),
65=65,
a=11, b=5, c=2,
abc=a b c =11x5x2=110.
a & c intrechanged
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a b + b c + c a = 2 3 2 + 6 5 + 7 7 = 8 7 a b c = ( 8 7 − 3 2 ) ∗ ( 8 7 − 6 5 ) ∗ ( 8 7 − 7 7 ) = 1 1 0