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If the largest possible volume of a cone inscribed in a sphere of unit volume can be represented as a b \frac{a}{b} , where a a and b b are coprime natural numbers, what is the value of a + b a+b ?


The answer is 35.

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Chew-Seong Cheong
Jul 25, 2015

Volume of a cone is given by: V = 1 3 π r 2 h V = \frac{1}{3}\pi r^2 h , where r r is the radius of the circular base and h h the height. For a cone inscribed in a sphere, for a fixed r r , the largest h h and hence the largest V V is when the cone is right circular.

Now consider a circle x 2 + y 2 = 1 x^2+y^2 = 1 . Let the vertex of the cone be ( 1 , 0 ) (-1,0) and its base be parallel to the y y -axis, hence r = y r=y and h = 1 + x h= 1+x . Therefore, we have:

V = 1 3 π r 2 h = 1 3 π y 2 ( 1 + x ) = 1 3 π ( 1 x 2 ) ( 1 + x ) = 1 3 π ( 1 + x x 2 x 3 ) d V d x = 1 3 π ( 1 2 x 3 x 2 ) \begin{aligned} V & = \frac{1}{3}\pi r^2 h = \frac{1}{3}\pi y^2 (1+x) = \frac{1}{3}\pi (1-x^2)(1+x) \\ & = \frac{1}{3}\pi (1 + x -x^2 - x^3) \\ \Rightarrow \frac{dV}{dx} & = \frac{1}{3}\pi (1-2x-3x^2) \end{aligned}

d V d x = 0 1 2 x 3 x 2 = 0 3 x 2 + 2 x 1 = 0 ( 3 x 1 ) ( x + 1 ) = 0 \begin{aligned} \frac{dV}{dx} & = 0 \\ \Rightarrow 1-2x-3x^2 & = 0 \\ 3x^2 + 2x -1 & = 0 \\ (3x-1)(x+1) & = 0 \end{aligned}

Since d 2 V d x 2 { < 0 , when x = 1 3 > 0 , when x = 1 \dfrac{d^2V}{dx^2} \begin{cases} < 0, \text{when } x = \frac{1}{3} \\ > 0, \text{when }x = -1 \end{cases} , V V is maximum when x = 1 3 x = \frac{1}{3} .

V m a x = π 3 ( 1 ( 1 3 ) 2 ) ( 1 + 1 3 ) = π 3 ( 8 9 ) ( 4 3 ) = 32 π 81 \begin{aligned} V_{max} & = \frac{\pi}{3} \left(1-\left(\frac{1}{3} \right)^2\right) \left(1+\frac{1}{3}\right) = \frac{\pi}{3} \left(\frac{8}{9} \right) \left(\frac{4}{3}\right) = \frac{32\pi}{81} \end{aligned}

V m a x V_{max} is from a cone inscribed by a unit-radius \color{#3D99F6} {\text{unit-radius}} sphere, therefore, the maximum volume of a cone inscribed by a unit \color{#3D99F6} {\text{unit}} sphere is:

V m a x = V m a x 4 π 3 = 32 π 81 4 π 3 = 8 27 a + b = 8 + 27 = 35 V'_{max} = \dfrac{V_{max}}{\frac{4\pi}{3}} = \dfrac {\frac{32\pi}{81}}{\frac{4\pi}{3}} = \dfrac{8}{27} \\ \Rightarrow a + b = 8 + 27 = \boxed{35}

Moderator note:

You have only shown that the extremal point of the volume occurs at x = 1 3 x=\frac13 , but you did not show that it is a maximum point.

@Raj Magesh : NCERT type problem, eh?

Vishwak Srinivasan - 5 years, 10 months ago

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Yeah, I like optimization. XD

Raj Magesh - 5 years, 10 months ago

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Your title for this problem is very good! @Raj Magesh

Noel Lo - 5 years, 10 months ago

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@Noel Lo Haha, thanks. I try to be as punny as possible, though many want to strangle me for it. :P

Raj Magesh - 5 years, 10 months ago

External point? You mean the vertex or apex? x x is parallel to the base. The circle x 2 + z 2 = r 2 x^2+\color{#D61F06}{z^2} = r^2 is the base. y = r y=r the radius of the base. The vertex is at ( 1 , 0 ) (-1,0) , therefore the height h = x ( 1 ) = 1 + x h = x - (-1) = 1+ x and volume V = π r 2 h 3 V=\dfrac{\pi r^2h}{3} = π y 2 ( 1 + x ) 3 = \dfrac{\pi y^2(1+x)}{3} = π ( 1 x 2 ) ( 1 + x ) 3 = \dfrac{\pi (1-x^2)(1+x)}{3} . Therefore V = V ( x ) V = V(x) a function of x x and maximum V ( x ) V(x) occurs when d V d x = 0 \dfrac{dV}{dx} = 0 .

Chew-Seong Cheong - 5 years, 10 months ago

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To show that it's maximum, use the second derivative test and show that V max ( 1 3 ) < 0 V_{\text{max}}''\left(\frac13\right) < 0 .

Pi Han Goh - 5 years, 10 months ago

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Thanks. Didn't notice it is "extremal". I thought it was "external".

Chew-Seong Cheong - 5 years, 10 months ago

Yeah, d V d x = 0 \dfrac{dV}{dx}=0 only implies that the point is either a point of maximum, a point of minimum or a point of inflection.

Raj Magesh - 5 years, 10 months ago

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Yes, I missed that step of showing d V d x < 0 \dfrac{dV}{dx} < 0 . But actually, if you solve for d V d x = 0 x = 1 3 \dfrac{dV}{dx} = 0 \quad \Rightarrow x = \frac{1}{3} and x = 1 x= -1 . When x = 1 x=-1 , V = 0 V = 0 minimum, x = 1 3 x = \frac{1}{3} V V is maximum.

Chew-Seong Cheong - 5 years, 10 months ago

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@Chew-Seong Cheong That's not enough proof, you have only shown that V ( 0 ) V(0) and V ( 1 3 ) V\left(\frac13\right) are EXTREMAL points, and not min/max points.

Take y = x 3 y = x^3 as an example. At d y d x = 0 \frac{dy}{dx} = 0 , does it mean that at x = 0 x = 0 , it is min or max point? no! It's just an inflection point

Pi Han Goh - 5 years, 10 months ago

p = sin 2 θ ( 1 + cos θ ) 4 p = \frac{\sin^2 \theta~(1 + \cos \theta)}{4}

Maximum p p occurs at cos θ = 1 3 \cos \theta = \frac13 while sin θ = 8 3 : \sin \theta = \frac{\sqrt{8}}{3}:

Maximum p = 8 9 ( 1 + 1 3 ) 4 = 2 9 4 3 = 8 27 = ( 2 3 ) 3 . p = \Large \frac{\frac{8}{9} (1 + \frac13)}{4} = \frac29 \frac43 = \frac{8}{27} = (\frac23)^3.

8 + 27 = 35

Answer: 35 \boxed{35}

Lu Chee Ket - 5 years, 4 months ago

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May you elaborate your solution.

What is p here? How did you reach to it? Thanks.

Pulkit Gupta - 5 years, 3 months ago

@Chew-Seong Cheong hey..so I'm assuming the x^2 + y^2 =1 circle is one of the Great-Circles of the Unit-Sphere which is why the cone (more specifically, that big isosceles triangle inside a cone) is inscribed within that circle. But since our sphere has a volume of 1, radius of that circle should be the cube root of (3/4π). But the equation of the circle says It's radius is 1. Can you please tell me if my assumption is correct. Thanks in anticipation.

Todd Diez - 1 month, 2 weeks ago

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unit sphere means a sphere with radius 1.

Unit sphere does not mean that its volume is 1.

Pi Han Goh - 1 month, 2 weeks ago

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Oh okay thank you. A 'sphere of unit volume' and a 'Unit Sphere' is the same thing right?

Todd Diez - 1 month, 2 weeks ago

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@Todd Diez no.

Unit volume = volume of numerical value of 1

Unit sphere = a Sphere where a radius of 1.

Pi Han Goh - 1 month, 2 weeks ago

Argh... Unit volume... noooooooooooooooooooooooo....

Julian Poon - 5 years, 10 months ago

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Yesssssssssssssss, the problem writer should have been more specific.

Chew-Seong Cheong - 5 years, 10 months ago
Rocco Dalto
Sep 21, 2016

Let the volume of the sphere V s = 4 3 π r 3 {\bf V_{s} = \frac{4}{3} \pi r^3 } and the volume of the cone V c = 1 3 π R 2 H . {\bf V_{c} = \frac{1}{3} \pi R^2 H. }

From the geometry of the problem we have a right triangle with hypotenuse r r and legs R R and H r H - r

R 2 = r 2 ( H r ) 2 V c = 1 3 π ( 2 H 2 r H 3 ) \implies R^2 = r^2 - (H - r)^2 \implies V_{c} = \dfrac{1}{3} \pi * (2H^2r - H^3) \implies

d V c d H = 1 3 H π ( 4 r 3 H ) = 0 \dfrac{dV_{c}}{dH} = \frac{1}{3} H \pi * (4r - 3H) = 0 and H 0 H = 4 r 3 H \neq 0 \implies H = \dfrac{4r}{3}

R 2 = 8 r 2 9 R = 2 2 r 3 \implies R^2 = \dfrac{8r^2}{9} \implies R = \dfrac{2\sqrt{2}r}{3}

d 2 V c d H 2 H = 4 r 3 < 0 \dfrac{d^2V_{c}}{dH^2}|_{H = \dfrac{4r}{3}} < 0 \implies max at H = 4 r 3 H = \dfrac{4r}{3}

V c = ( 4 3 π r 3 ) 8 27 = V s 8 27 \therefore V_{c} = (\dfrac{4}{3} \pi r^3) * \dfrac{8}{27} = V_{s} * \dfrac{8}{27}

Since we have a unit sphere V s = 1 V c = 8 27 = a b a + b = 35 . \implies V_{s} = 1 \implies V_{c} = \dfrac{8}{27} = \dfrac{a}{b} \implies \boxed{a + b = 35}.

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