Crash!

I'm driving my car of mass 1000 kg 1000~\mbox{kg} at 100 km/hr 100~\mbox{km/hr} when I accidentally hit the rear end of a truck of mass 5000 kg 5000~\mbox{kg} traveling in the same direction at 90 km/hr 90~\mbox{km/hr} . My car and the truck lock together and move as a single object. Let F 1 x ^ F_1 \hat{x} be the force the truck exerts on my car and let F 2 x ^ F_2\hat{x} be the force my car exerts on the truck. What is F 1 / F 2 F_1/F_2 during the collision?

Details and assumptions

  • You may ignore friction and air resistance.


The answer is -1.

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Michael Tang
Oct 27, 2013

By Newton's Third Law, the forces are equal in magnitude but opposite in direction. Therefore the requested ratio must be 1 . \boxed{-1}.

Great job explaining this!

Hunter Gallant - 7 years, 7 months ago

How can U take ratio of two vectors? We should consider only magnitudes. So answer must be 1.

Nihhaar Chandra Routhu - 7 years, 7 months ago

Direction is positive or negative.

Michael Tang - 7 years, 7 months ago

where did you got -1? can you explain better? start from get number of f1 and f2 for example.

Hafizh Ahsan Permana - 7 years, 7 months ago

@Hafizh Ahsan Permana Say that F 1 F_1 is a force of magnitude 5 5 in the rightward direction. Then by Newton's Second Law, F 2 F_2 is a force of the same magnitude ( 5 ) (5) in the leftward direction. They have the same magnitude but opposite direction, so their ratio is 1. -1.

Michael Tang - 7 years, 7 months ago
Kayne Johnston
Oct 27, 2013

All forces are equal but opposite in this scenario therefore the ratio of them is -1, as they are in opposite directions but the same magnitude.

Eng Ngee H'ng
Nov 2, 2013

We take initial direction of motion of car and truck to be positive direction for vector. Also, units for mass, distance and time are assumed to be kg, km and hr .

Let m c , v c m_{c}, v_{c} be mass, velocity of car while m t , v t m_{t}, v_{t} be mass, velocity of truck.

m c = 1000 , v c = 100 , m t = 5000 , v t = 90 m_{c} = 1000, v_{c} = 100, m_{t} = 5000, v_{t} = 90

By conservation of momentum, momentum before = momentum after.

m c v c + m t v t = ( m c + m t ) v f m_{c} \cdot v_{c} + m_{t} \cdot v{t} = (m_{c} + m_{t}) \cdot v_{f} , where v f v_{f} is final velocity.

Substituting values from above and solving, we have v f = 550 6 v_{f} = \frac{550}{6} .

As v t < v f < v c v_{t} < v_{f} < v_{c} , the car's velocity decreases and the truck's velocity increases.

  • Car undergoes negative acceleration. so F 2 F_{2} opposes the initial direction.
  • Truck experiences positive acceleration so F 1 F_{1} is in the initial direction.

We use the formula F = m ( v f v i ) t F = \frac{m(v_{f}-v_{i})}{t} from Newton's 2nd law of motion.

  1. F 1 = 1000 ( 100 550 6 ) T > 0 F_{1} = \frac{1000(100 - \frac{550}{6})}{T} > 0
  2. F 2 = 5000 ( 90 550 6 ) T < 0 F_{2} = \frac{5000( 90 - \frac{550}{6})}{T} < 0 , where T T is time of collision.

So F 1 F 2 = 1000 ( 50 6 ) 5000 ( 10 6 ) = 1 \frac{F_{1}}{F_{2}} = \frac{1000(\frac{50}{6})}{5000(\frac{-10}{6})} = -1 .

Note: From Newton's 3rd law of motion , force exerted by object A on object B has equal magnitude and opposite direction as force exerted by object B on object A.

This shows that F 2 = F 1 F_{2} = - F_{1} which yields F 1 F 2 = 1 \frac{F_{1}}{F_{2}} = -1 .

Did'nt get it, where did you found vf = 550/6? and t= 6? can you explain more detail please..

Hafizh Ahsan Permana - 7 years, 7 months ago
Ben Sockol
Oct 27, 2013

By Newton's third law, F1=-F2. Thus, F1/F2=-1

According to Newton's Third Law of Motion: Every action has an equal, opposite and instantaneous reaction. Hence the forces are equal and opposite. If one force is 'x' then the other is '-x'. x/-x = -1

Goutam Narayan
Nov 1, 2013

By Newton 's third law,

F {1} = -F {2} => F {1} / F {2} = \boxed{-1}

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