31 of 100: Some Sum Riddle

I'm thinking of two positive whole numbers that multiply to 1000, neither of which contain the digit 0. What is the sum of these 2 numbers?

Check the factors! What's true about any of them that contain a digit 0?

110 133 254 1001

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26 solutions

Robert DeLisle
Jul 1, 2017

The sum is 133.

Simply factor 1000 into 5x5x5x2x2x2. Once a 5 and 2 are used to form a factor a zero appears since the number will be a multiple of 10. That leaves the single possibility of 8 and 125 that sums to 133.

The real question is: why is this puzzle rated more than one cactus?

Good question! It's possible that the difficulty depends wholly on the solvers worldwide other than math and science fans. :)

Michael Huang - 3 years, 11 months ago

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Surely the four circles inscribed in a 3-4-5 triangle yesterday was at least two cacti better than this.

Robert DeLisle - 3 years, 11 months ago

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Yes, I agree with you for that one. I believe the best challenge is the billiard pocket one. It's the good problem.

Anywho, it doesn't require a lot of work to be able to answer the challenge questions. All you do is to get down the basics, and you are done. To me, I felt the way the challenge set is rushed. At first, you tried the billiard challenge, which has a reasonable difficulty. Then, the question thrown each day becomes like high-school type of problems other than Olympiad ones.

Michael Huang - 3 years, 11 months ago

I agree! Here is a more interesting one: I'm thinking of three positive integers, all of which are greater than one and less than ten (between two and nine). There may or may not be duplicates. Now I change them so that the same conditions apply, while the SUM of the three integers remains the same, but their PRODUCT increases by one. What is the smallest pair of products that I can make in this way? Are there any others?

Mark Lama - 3 years, 11 months ago

u r so good at explaining can u do that in my math class? (teacher sucks at explaining)#no offense teacher

A Former Brilliant Member - 3 years, 10 months ago
Zach Abueg
Jul 1, 2017

The factors of 1000 1000 are

1 , 2 , 4 , 5 , 8 , 10 , 20 , 25 , 40 , 50 , 100 , 125 , 200 , 250 , 500 , 1000 1, 2, 4, 5, 8, 10, 20, 25, 40, 50, 100, 125, 200, 250, 500, 1000

Notice that all of the factors containing the digit 0 0 are multiples of 10 10 . Now, any multiple of 10 10 is of the form 2 a 5 b 2^a \cdot 5^b for positive integers a a and b b . Thus, since neither of the numbers contain the digit 0 0 , they cannot be products of any permutation of 2 2 and 5 5 . This extends to the one-digit factors that are paired with factors that are multiples of 10 10 - namely, 2 ( × 50 0 ) 2 \ (\times 50{\color{#3D99F6}{0}}) , 4 ( × 25 0 ) 4 \ (\times 25{\color{#3D99F6}{0}}) , and 5 ( × 20 0 ) 5 \ (\times 20{\color{#3D99F6}{0}}) .

However, since 1000 1000 is a multiple of 10 10 , it must necessarily be of the form 2 a 5 b 2^a \cdot 5^b . Indeed, its prime factorization is 2 3 5 3 2^3 \cdot 5^3 , or 8 × 125 8 \times 125 . Recall that 10 n = 2 a 5 b 10n = 2^a \cdot 5^b , where a a and b b are positive integers. We can rewrite 1000 1000 's prime factorization as ( 2 3 × 5 0 ) ( 2 0 × 5 3 ) (2^3 \times 5^0) \cdot (2^0 \times 5^3) . Neither number is a multiple of 10 10 , instead being only powers of 2 2 or powers of 5 5 , respectively.

Hence, our numbers are 8 8 and 125 125 , and the desired sum is 133 \boxed{133} .

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Brilliant Mathematics Staff - 3 years, 11 months ago

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Thank you so much! By the way, will the 100 Day Summer Challenge and notifications ever be added to the app? I'm on the app as much as, if not more than, I am online, and it'd be really great if we had those features on the Brilliant app. Thanks for considering!

Zach Abueg - 3 years, 11 months ago

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Since the 100 Day Challenge is one-off, we're not planning on adding it into the app as yet.

Calvin Lin Staff - 3 years, 10 months ago

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@Calvin Lin Fair enough. Thank you :)

Zach Abueg - 3 years, 10 months ago
Eric S
Jul 1, 2017

Because every number with a 0 is divisible by both 2 and 5, we start by factoring 1000. 1000 = 500 2 = 250 4 = 125 8 = > 125 + 8 = 133 1000 = 500 * 2 = 250 * 4 = 125 * 8 => 125 + 8 = 133 , which is our desired answer.

This question is not worded properly and therefore there are two solutions which are 8 + 125 = 133 and 4 + 250 = 254. The question should have been worded without any ambiguity so that the answer is unique. The reworded question would be "I'm thinking of two positive whole numbers that multiply to 1000, neither of which contain the digit 0. What is the lowest sum of these 2 numbers?"

Pravin Prabhu - 3 years, 11 months ago

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250 has a zero in it, so it is not an answer.

Eric S - 3 years, 11 months ago
Shourya Pandey
Jul 1, 2017

Let the two numbers be m m and n n . Thus we have m n = 1000 = 2 3 5 3 . mn= 1000 = 2^3 \cdot 5^3. Obviously one of these must be even, say m m is even. If m m contains any power of 5 5 , then m m will be a multiple of 10 10 , which is not allowed. Thus it must be n n that is divisible by 5 3 5^3 . Now if n n is even, then it will be a multiple of 10 10 too, which is not allowed. So all of 2 3 2^3 must be contained in m m . Therefore 2 3 m 2^3 \mid m 5 3 n 5^3 \mid n but m n = 1000 mn = 1000 . It follows that m = 2 3 = 8 m = 2^3 = 8 and n = 5 3 = 125 n = 5^3 = 125 , so m + n = 133 m+n = \boxed{133} .

Jesse Nieminen
Jul 1, 2017

By listing all pairs of positive integers that multiply to 1000 1000 ,

1000 = 1 × 1000 = 2 × 500 = 4 × 250 = 5 × 200 = 8 × 125 = 10 × 100 = 20 × 50 = 25 × 40 \begin{aligned} 1000 \ &= \ \ \ 1 \times 1000 \\ &= \ \ \ 2 \times 500 \\ &= \ \ \ 4 \times 250 \\ &= \ \ \ 5 \times 200 \\ &= \ \ \ 8 \times 125 \\ &= \ 10 \times 100 \\ &= \ 20 \times 50 \\ &= \ 25 \times 40 \end{aligned}

we find that { 8 , 125 } \left\{8, 125\right\} is the only pair satisfying the condition.

Hence, the sum is 8 + 125 = 133 8 + 125 = \boxed{133} .

Surya Subbarao
Jul 1, 2017

Numbers divisible by 10 are divisible by 2 and 5. 1000 = 2 3 × 5 3 1000=2^3\times5^3 , so to make sure the numbers are not divisible by 10, we must make sure that we don't mix 2 and 5 in the same factor. Therefore, one factor must be only 2s and the other should be only 5s. This gives the two factors 8 and 125, which add together to 133.

Audrey Gauci
Jul 1, 2017

I just guessed

Emily Pines
Sep 10, 2017

The first thing came to my mind was " 125 × 8 = 1000 125 \times 8 = 1000 " because we learned this in school as a concept. Both 125 & 8 don't contain the digit 0. So 125 + 8 = 133 \boxed{125 + 8 = 133}

Alex Wang
Aug 2, 2017

factor 1000 into 5 5 5 2 2*2

do not do 5*2 because that = 10

5 5 5 and 2 2 2 do not do that

add them up

133

Matthew Brutlag
Jul 25, 2017

Make a systematic table of factor pairs

1 x 1000

2 x 500

4 x 250

5 x 200

8 x 125 <- this is it, it is the only factor pair with no zeros.

10 x 100

20 x 50

25 x 40

I agree that this problem is ridiculously easy.

Beth Davies
Jul 22, 2017

I solved this quickly by recalling the first few common fractions as decimals:

1 2 \frac{1}{2} = 0.5

1 3 \frac{1}{3} = 0.333...

1 4 \frac{1}{4} = 0.25

1 5 \frac{1}{5} = 0.2

1 8 \frac{1}{8} = 0.125

Factor these up and you have 2+500, 3+333.3..., 4+250, 5+200, 8+125. The only one here that really works is 1 8 \frac{1}{8} and hark when you add 125 and 8 you get 133 which is one of the answers

Khadijah Hafeji
Jul 14, 2017

The sum is 133. You can work out the prime factors of 1000 which are: 2, 2, 2, 5, 5, 5. These factors can also be written as 2 cubed and 5 cubed - 8 and 125. These are the two numbers the question talks about. Add these two together and you get 133 - the answer to the question.

Sparkles Trio
Jul 4, 2017

250 x 4 =1000

So, I halved 250 to get 125 and then doubled 4 to get 8; 125 x 8 =1000

125 + 8 = 133

Pradeep Rout
Jul 4, 2017

1000 = 10 * 10 * 10 = 5 * 2 * 5 * 2 * 5 * 2 = (5 ^ 3) * (2 ^ 3) = 125 * 8 (Answer)

Note that 1000 = 2 3 5 3 1000=2^35^3 . The only factors that don't involve 0 is 2 3 = 8 2^3=8 and 5 3 = 125 5^3=125 , and their sum is 8 + 125 = 133 8+125=\boxed{133} .

Sanjit Bollina
Jul 2, 2017

So each number can't end in 0

x*y=1000

x+y=

x = 125

y = 8

125*8=100

125+8=133

So 133 is the answer

Stephen Garland
Jul 1, 2017

There is no need to factor 1000 in order to find the correct answer. Since the product of the two numbers is 1000, one of them must be divisible by 5. Since that number does not contain a zero digit, it must not be divisible by 2. Hence the other number must be even, and the sum of the two numbers must be odd. Since 1001 is too large to be the sum of two numbers whose product is 1000, that leaves 133 as the only possible answer.

1000 factors to 5^3x2^3 (5x5x5x2x2x2). Since any number that has factors of 5 and 2 has the ones digit as a zero, the 5's and 2's must stay separate. This means that the two factors must be 125 (5^3) and 8 (2^3). 125+8=133

David Hairston
Jul 1, 2017

1000 has a prime factorization of (2•2•2) • (5•5•5). Considered separately, each prime factor family contributes four factors: (2•2•2) contributes the four factors 1, 2, 4 and 8, while (5•5•5) contributes the four factors (1, 5, 25 and 125). Combined, this leads to 1000 having 16 factors: (1, 2, 4, 8) • (1, 5, 25, 125) or 8 factor-pairs. The eight factor pairs are: 1•1000, 2•500, 4•250, 5•200, 8•125, 10•100, 20•50 and 25•40. Only 8•125 is a factor-pair where neither factor contains a 0 digit. An ending 0 digit would result when a factor of 2 combines with a factor of 5. Therefore, the sum 8+125 = 133 is the answer.

BTW, methinks writing the solution for this challenge was more challenging than the actual challenge!

Ei Young
Jul 1, 2017

5 x 2 is the basic power of ten combo. So the third power of 10. 5 to the third is 125, 2 to the third is 8.

Anonymous Man
Jul 1, 2017

factorize 1000 that gives you 2x2x2x5x5x5. the digit mustn't have 0, so we should not multiply 5 and 2 together but separately. That gives 2x2x2=8 and 5x5x5=125

  • P = a*b = 1000
  • S = a + b
  • we have: t^2 - S*t + P = 0 (with P =1000)
  • use your calculator and replace S with 110,133,254,1001 until you get the numbers satisfying the condition
  • S=133 is the answer with a=t1=125, b=t2=8
  • Of course this is not the best way tho.
Angel Krastev
Jul 1, 2017
  1. 1000=10^3=(2x5)^3=2^3 x 5^3=8x125
    Actually, it is very easy to see that
    110 is not the right answer: 100x10=1000
    because 100 and 10 contain the digit 0;
    254 is not the right answer: 250x4=1000
    because 250 contains the digit 0;
    1001 is not the right answer: 1000x1
    because 1000 contains the digit 0.
Nazanin Zareirad
Jul 1, 2017

1000 = 8 * 125 125 + 8 = 133

Matteo Monzali
Jul 1, 2017

Factoring 1000 we have 1000 = 2 3 5 3 1000=2^3 \cdot 5^3 so now we have to find a divider of 1000 that ends with no zeros.

A number ends with zero when in his factorization a 2 2 and a 5 5 appear, so our divider's factorization won't have a 2 2 and a 5 5 together.

So one number will be 2 2 2 = 2 3 = 8 2 \cdot 2 \cdot 2=2^3=8 and the other 5 5 5 = 5 3 = 125 5 \cdot 5 \cdot 5 =5^3=125 .

8 + 125 = 133 8+125=133

1000 = 10 × 10 × 10 = 1 0 3 1000 = 10 \times 10 \times 10\ = 10^3

Factors of 10 are (10, 1) or (2, 5). We know that any factor of 1000 that is divisible by 10 must contain a zero digit, which is not allowed.

1000 = ( 2 × 5 ) 3 = ( 2 3 + 5 3 ) \Rightarrow 1000 = (2 \times 5)^3 = (2^3 + 5^3)

Σ ( 2 3 + 5 3 ) = ( 8 + 125 ) = 133 \Sigma (2^3 + 5^3) = (8 + 125) = \boxed{133}

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