33 of 100: The First Rule of Octagon Club Is Don't Talk About Octagon Club

Geometry Level 1

What fraction of the regular octagon is shaded red?

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1 8 \frac{1}{8} 1 4 \frac{1}{4} 5 16 \frac{5}{16} 3 8 \frac{3}{8}

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15 solutions

Marta Reece
Jul 2, 2017

Triangle A B O ABO , where O O is the center of the octagon, has an area equal to 1 8 \frac18 of the area of the octagon.

Triangle A B C ABC has double the height of triangle A B O ABO and the same base. It therefore has double the area, that is 1 4 \frac14 of the area of the octagon.

Beautifully simple !!

Sundar R - 3 years, 11 months ago

I was about to post the same solution. I think this is the simplest way.

A Former Brilliant Member - 3 years, 11 months ago

That's how I did it!

Mark Lama - 3 years, 11 months ago

Simplest!!

Fahim Faisal - 3 years, 11 months ago

This question appeared in the Australian Mathematics Competition 2008

Hua Zhi Vee - 3 years, 10 months ago

Very cool!

Andrew Lamoureux - 3 years, 10 months ago

Nice solution!!

家安 何 - 3 years, 9 months ago

It took me 20 minutes to think about this although i used the circumscribed circle (also with center O) way. you just create point C' in one of the nearest vertesies (the left or the right), and you have some theorem about circles arches witch states the same thing also triangle ABC' has the same area as triangle ABC.

Liviu Vigu-Giurea - 3 years, 9 months ago

Easy and simple. You are smart.

KruMeng Ac - 2 years, 11 months ago
Venkatachalam J
Jul 2, 2017

i don't see that transformation from 1 to 2 easily... unless with calculus

Samuel Silva - 3 years, 11 months ago

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I added the required information for your understanding. Just need formula of rectangle and triangle.

Venkatachalam J - 3 years, 11 months ago

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well, that's with calculus xD

Samuel Silva - 3 years, 11 months ago

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@Samuel Silva i think it's actually just algebra, this solution doesn't require calculus

Priya Kumar - 3 years, 11 months ago

Beautiful solution.

Kazem Sepehrinia - 3 years, 11 months ago

Much better solution than mine. Thanks.

Alexander Crawford - 3 years, 11 months ago
Kazem Sepehrinia
Jul 2, 2017

Just an another way to see it! There are 8 \color{#CEBB00}8 equal triangles (eight isosceles right triangles with equal hypotenuse, which is indeed the side of octagon) and 4 \color{cyan}4 equal rectangles (with a length equal to side of octagon and a width equal to leg of isosceles right triangle) in the picture. Thus area 1 \color{#D61F06}1 is equal to area 2 \color{#D61F06}2 . Shaded region (red color in the original figure) is half of the area 1 \color{#D61F06}1 , and, thus, its 1 4 \color{#D61F06}\frac{1}{4} of the total area.

This is an interesting way to see this. Could you please clarify how can you prove that triangle in the center has the same area that triangle in the bottom left, for example? Thank you.

Ilya Chernov - 3 years, 11 months ago

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You see eight isosceles right triangles in the picture with equal hypotenuse, which is indeed the side of octagon. All because of the internal angle of 135 = 90 + 45 135=90+45 degree for octagon.

Kazem Sepehrinia - 3 years, 11 months ago

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Thank you, now I got it. At first I didn't think of proving it via angles, and I thought of making a proof via comparing all the corresponding sides of two triangles.

Ilya Chernov - 3 years, 11 months ago

This was my thought. The equal areas of the triangles in different positions probably deserved a few words of explanation. (And yes, your reasoning is correct.)

Richard Desper - 3 years, 11 months ago

this is art

Mehdi K. - 3 years, 11 months ago

i'm just up voting on every one of your solutions. do u think i could be as good as u in..... 14 years? (i'm 10) :o)

A Former Brilliant Member - 3 years, 10 months ago

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You can be far far better than me :)

Kazem Sepehrinia - 3 years, 10 months ago

eh i'm not sure:/ *if i'll be that good

A Former Brilliant Member - 3 years, 10 months ago
Robert DeLisle
Jul 3, 2017

The area of a regular polygon is 1/2ap and p=8s. Substitute and reduce to get A=4as.

The area of the red triangle is 1/2bh, b=s, and h=2a. Substitute and reduce to get A=as

Therefore the area of the entire octogon is 4 times the area of the red triangle. In other words the area of the triangle is 1/4 of the octogon.

This is how I did it!

Mike Schieffer - 3 years, 11 months ago
Surya Subbarao
Jul 3, 2017

The triangle connecting the base of the red triangle to the center of the octagon is 1/8 of the octagon. The red triangle has double its height, so it must have twice the area. It must cover 1/4 of the octagon.

Sean Chapman
Jul 3, 2017

Area of octagon = 1/2 (apothem) (perimeter)

Perimeter = 8s

So area = 1/2 (apothem) (8s) = 4as

Area of triangle = 1/2 bh

b = s

h = 2a

So, area = as

Therefore the area of the triangle is 1/4 of the area of the octagon.

Matthew Brutlag
Jul 25, 2017

When a a = the apothem, and P P = perimeter the Area of a polygon is

A p o l y g o n = 1 2 a P A_{ polygon}=\frac{1}{2}aP

The perimeter of a polygon when n n = number of sides and s s = side length is

P p o l y g o n = n s P_{ polygon}=ns

Substitution yields

A p o l y g o n = 1 2 a n s A_{ polygon}=\frac{1}{2}ans

The area formula for a triangle is

A t r i a n g l e = 1 2 b h A_{ triangle}=\frac{1}{2}bh

Given that b b = a side (/(s/) and /(h/) = two apothems /(a/) the equation becomes

A t r i a n g l e = 1 2 ( s ) ( 2 a ) A_{ triangle}=\frac{1}{2}(s)(2a)

Rearranging using the commutative property and removing the parentheses yields

A t r i a n g l e = 1 2 2 a s A_{ triangle}=\frac{1}{2}2as

So the fraction of the polygon that the triangle yields is

A t r i a n g l e A p o l y g o n = 1 2 2 a s 1 2 a n s \frac{A_{ triangle}}{A_{ polygon}}=\frac{\frac{1}{2}2as}{\frac{1}{2}ans}

Reducing by canceling yields

A t r i a n g l e A p o l y g o n = 2 n \frac{A_{ triangle}}{A_{ polygon}}=\frac{2}{n}

Since we are dealing with an octagon n n = 8 and the fraction becomes

A t r i a n g l e A o c t a g o n = 2 8 \frac{A_{ triangle}}{A_{ octagon}}=\frac{2}{8}

Reducing yields

A t r i a n g l e A o c t a g o n = 1 4 \frac{A_{ triangle}}{A_{ octagon}}=\frac{1}{4}

Hansen Yang
Jul 21, 2017

There are 8 triangles in a octagon. The red triangle takes up two triangles when cut, therefor is a 1/4 of the octagon

Bruce Fulton
Jul 3, 2017

Given a side = 1 and the standard formula for calculation of the area of an octagon, extend a line completing the base of the octagon, then vertically to compute the height of the red triangle by solving for the sides of the 45 degree right triangle with hypotenuse 1, then after computing the area of the red triangle, dividing by the area of the octagon to determine fraction, thus =((1+2*0.5^0.5)/2)/4.83=0.249

Anuj Modi
Jul 3, 2017

Given the area of regular octagon as 2(1+ 2 \sqrt{2} ) a 2 a^2 , and using the angle formula for regular polygons = 180 ( 360 n 180 - (\frac {360}{n} ) , a regular octagon has 14 5 145 ^ \circ inner angle, so that the when broken into 3 parts from the side edges, the height of the octagon or the triangle turns out to be a + a 2 + a 2 a + \frac {a}{\sqrt{2}} + \frac {a}{\sqrt{2}} which is ( 1 + 2 ) a (1 + \sqrt{2})a .... Calculating the area of the triangle using 1/2 X Base X Altitude, Triangle area = ( 1 + 2 ) a 2 2 \frac{(1 + \sqrt{2})a^2}{2} .... Thus the given area is 1 4 \frac{1}{4} the original octagon area

Zach Cox
Jul 3, 2017

Syrous Marivani
Jul 3, 2017

LET THE LEGS OF THE ISOSCELES RIGHT TRIANGLE ON THE LOWER RIDHT CORNER OF THE FIGURE

BE Y, AND THE LENGTH OF EACH SIDE OF THE FIDURE BE X, THEN

X^2 = 2Y^2, X = SQRT(2)Y

THE AREA OF THE FIGURE IS

A = 2(2X + 2Y)Y/2 + X(X + 2Y) = 2XY + 2Y^2 + X2 + 2XY = 4SQRT(2)Y2 + 2Y^2 + 2Y^2 = 4( SQRT(2) + 1)Y2

THE AREA OF THE PINK TIANGLE IS:

B = X(X + 2Y)/2 = Y^2 + SQRT(2)Y^2 = (1 + SQRT(2))Y2

THEN

B/A = (1 + SQRT(2))/(4(SQRT(2) + 1) )= 1/4.

Sundar R
Jul 3, 2017

I am presenting a generalized solution which is not as elegant as the previous ones but could prove useful when you do not get any special insights to simplify the problem (Apologies if the presentation is a little clumsy in terms of mathematical notation)

The above also attempts to delve into the general properties of regular polygons

Sundar R - 3 years, 11 months ago

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