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Calculus Level 2

Find the derivative of the function y = x x . y = x^x.

y = x x ( ln x + 1 ) y'=x^x (\ln x + 1) y = x ln x y'=x\ln x y = x ( ln x + 1 ) y'=x (\ln x + 1) y = x x + 1 ( ln x + 1 ) y'=x^{x+1} (\ln x + 1)

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Alex Kasantsidis
May 27, 2015

y = x x y=x^{x}

l n y = x l n x lny=xlnx

d y d x l n y = d y d x x l n x \frac{dy}{dx} lny=\frac{dy}{dx} xlnx

using implicit differentiation you get

1 y d y d x = l n x + 1 \frac{1}{y} \frac{dy}{dx}= lnx+1

d y d x = y ( l n x + 1 ) \frac{dy}{dx}=y(lnx+1)

recall y = x x y=x^{x}

therefore

d y d x = x x ( l n x + 1 ) \frac{dy}{dx} = x^{x}(lnx+1)

Moderator note:

Yes, this is the standard logarithmic differentiation approach. Bonus question: Do we still need to apply logarithmic differentiation if we want to determine d 2 y d x 2 , d 3 y d x 3 , \frac {d^2 y}{dx^2}, \frac{d^3y}{dx^3} ,\ldots and so on?

Answer to challenge note: Not necessary. We already know the first derivative of x^x and can re-use that

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I found the same here.

Marcelo Dias Jr. - 6 years ago

Shouldn't the third line be

d d x l n y = d d x x l n x \frac{d}{dx}lny=\frac{d}{dx}xlnx

? then

d d y l n y d y d x = l n x + 1 \frac{d}{dy}lny\frac{dy}{dx}=lnx+1

Ka Kei Yeung - 6 years ago

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i skipped that step and just took the derivate of lny with respect to y and showed it which was 1/y

Alex Kasantsidis - 6 years ago

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I'm not saying you skipped any step, I'm saying you wrote dy instead of d

Ka Kei Yeung - 6 years ago

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@Ka Kei Yeung Yes, because that is implicit differentiation. when you take the derivate of lny you use the chain rule and take the derivate of y with respect to x which is 1 times dy/dx

Alex Kasantsidis - 6 years ago

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@Alex Kasantsidis " Yes, because that is implicit differentiation. when you take the derivate of lny you use the chain rule and take the derivate of y with respect to x which is 1 times dy/dx" Yes by chain rule:

d d x l n y = d d x x l n x \frac{d}{dx}lny=\frac{d}{dx}xlnx

d d y l n y d y d x = l n x + 1 \frac{d}{dy}lny\frac{dy}{dx}=lnx+1

1 y d y d x = l n x + 1 \frac{1}{y}\frac{dy}{dx}=lnx + 1

Ka Kei Yeung - 6 years ago

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@Ka Kei Yeung So i just skipped your 3rd step. I am sorry.

Alex Kasantsidis - 6 years ago

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@Alex Kasantsidis No the skipping is fine, but not the dy instead of d in YOUR 3rd line.

Ka Kei Yeung - 6 years ago
Max Beech
May 26, 2015

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Correct. Can you type it out here? It's not entirely legible.

y = x x y = e l n ( x x ) y = e x l n ( x ) y = ( l n ( x ) + 1 ) ( e x l n ( x ) ) y = ( l n ( x ) + 1 ) x x y={ x }^{ x }\\ y={ e }^{ ln({ x }^{ x }) }\\ y={ e }^{ xln(x) }\\ y'=(ln(x)+1)({ e }^{ xln(x) })\\ y'=(ln(x)+1){ x }^{ x }

Max Beech - 6 years ago

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I like your method. However, did you forget parenthesis around the "ln(x) + 1"?

Louis W - 6 years ago

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Ahah yes Louis thanks, I got lazy there! Greetings from the UK!

Max Beech - 6 years ago
Mahasvin Gogi
Aug 20, 2015

If y = x x

Use properties of logarithmic functions to expand the right side of the above equation as follows.

ln y = x ln x

We now differentiate both sides with respect to x, using chain rule on the left side and the product rule on the right.

y '(1 / y) = ln x + x(1 / x) = ln x + 1 , where y ' = dy/dx

Multiply both sides by y

y ' = (ln x + 1)y

Substitute y by x ^x to obtain

y ' = x^x(ln x + 1)

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