q = 1 μ C uniformly distributed over its length. The rod touches a grounded conducting sphere of radius R = 5 0 cm as shown in the figure below. Find the charged induced in the sphere in microcoulombs if the length of the rod is L = 1 m . The following integral may be useful: ∫ a 2 + x 2 1 d x = ln ( x + x 2 + a 2 ) + C .
Consider a dielectric thin rod with total charge
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how did you derive the expression for potential due to the rod becuase that is the real thing i have problem deriving ..so please just tell me how did you do it?
Why wont the induced charge be uniformly distributed?
I just cant figure out these problems involving double integration
Since the sphere is grounded, the electrostatic potential at every point on it and hence potential at center would be 0 .
Say, charge Q is induced.The induced charge would reside at the surface. Hence, the distance of center from every small charge d q
The potential due to induced charges at the center ( V 1 ) = ∫ 4 π ϵ 0 R d q = 4 π ϵ R Q
Also, the potential at center due to rod ( V 2 ) = 2 ∫ 0 L / 2 4 π ϵ 0 R 2 + x 2 q / L d x
Using 2 L = R , V 2 = 4 π ϵ 0 R q ln ( 2 + 1 )
Hence, total potential at center = V 1 + V 2 = 0
Thus, 4 π ϵ R Q + 4 π ϵ 0 R q ln ( 2 + 1 ) = 0
OR Q = − q ln ( 1 + 2 ) = − 0 . 8 8 μ C
i did in the same way as you did but while i was integrating i integrated the potential with lower limit=0 and upper limit=L and didnt got the answer right, is my way of doing it wrong?
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Note that he doubled the integral. So if you did the integral from 0 to L, then you must not double it, then you will get your answer..(you must get it).
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No he won't get it as for him, x is distance from lower end of rod, and for me it is from bottom end of rod. If x were distance from bottom,
V 2 = 4 π ϵ 0 q ∫ 0 L ( R − x ) 2 + R 2 d x
i did not double it
Did the same 😄
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Let Q be the induced charge on the sphere.
Now,
Even though this induced charge is non-uniform ,
The potential due to this induced charge at the center of the sphere is still V 1 = R k Q
Also,
Potential due to the rod, at the center of the sphere, is given as,
V 2 = L k q l n ( sec α − tan α sec α + tan α )
Since the sphere is grounded ,
V 1 + V 2 = 0
R k Q + L k q l n ( sec α − tan α sec α + tan α ) = 0
Note that,
tan α = 2 R L and sec α = 2 R 4 R 2 + L 2
Substituting the values of tan α and sec α , we get,
Q = − L q R l n ( 4 R 2 + L 2 − L 4 R 2 + L 2 + L ) ≈ − 0 . 8 8 1 3 μ C