Differentiation

Calculus Level 1

Let f : R R f\colon\mathbb R\to \mathbb R be a function such that f ( 2 ) = 0 f(2)=0 and f ( x ) = f ( x ) \ f^\prime(x) = f(x) . What is f ( 2015 ) f(2015) ?


The answer is 0.

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Otto Bretscher
Dec 21, 2015

The derivative of f ( x ) e x f(x)e^{-x} is f ( x ) e x f ( x ) e x = 0 f'(x)e^{-x}-f(x)e^{-x}=0 , so that f ( x ) e x = C f(x)e^{-x}=C , a constant. Plugging in x = 2 x=2 , we see that C = 0 × e 2 = 0 C=0\times e^{-2}=0 . It follows that f ( x ) = 0 × e x = 0 f(x)=0\times e^x=0 for all x x ; in particular, f ( 2015 ) = 0 f(2015)=\boxed{0} .

Lu Chee Ket
Dec 21, 2015

y y = e x e 2 e^x - e^2 c a n n o t cannot satisfy d y d x = y a n d f ( 2 ) = 0. \dfrac{d y}{d x}= y~and~f(2) = 0.

If this can be the case, then f (2015) = e 2015 e 2 = 1.268764548081028244734091273808 e + 875. e^{2015} - e^2 = 1.268764548081028244734091273808e+875.

Since the answer wanted requested for an integer, y = 0 as a constant can satisfy the conditions.

Where no contradiction is there, y = f (2015) = constant zero = 0 cannot be denied.

Therefore, f (x) is proposed by someone as a e x b a e^{x - b} where a a has to be zero.

Answer: 0 \boxed{0}

this function f ( x ) = e x e 2 f(x)=e^{x}-e^{2} has its derivative f ( x ) = e x f'(x)=e^{x} therefore it does not satisfy the condition that f'(x)=f(x)

Zeeshan Ali - 5 years, 5 months ago

Wrong. This solution made no sense.

Pi Han Goh - 5 years, 5 months ago

An easy approach might be by starting with integrating both sides which gives lnf(x)=x+C(some arbitrary constant) which gives f(x)=e^x+c which is always positive. So for f(2)=0 f must identically vanish. So f(x)=0 for all x belong to real set.

Rishabh Jain - 5 years, 5 months ago

The derivative of f ( x ) = a × ( e x b ) f (x)=a \times (e^{x-b}) is the same function, where a and b are constants, but this function is never equal 0, except when a = 0 a=0 , thus the function must be f ( x ) = 0 f(x)=0 . Finally, it implies f ( 2015 ) = 0 f(2015)=0 .

The first line is not true. If it was the only function, then f ( x ) = 0 f(x) = 0 cannot satisfy the conditions.

Be careful to double check that what you wrote is what you intended. It can be tricky to convey exactly what you intended.

Calvin Lin Staff - 5 years, 5 months ago

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Can't the function be f(x)=0? then f'(x)=0 and f(2)=0 as well. It was just a tricky one.

Zeeshan Ali - 5 years, 5 months ago

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I believe he is saying that "The only function that is equal to its own derivative is f ( x ) = e x f(x)=e^x " is a false statement.

All functions of the form f ( x ) = A e x f(x)=Ae^x also satisfy it.

So since e x 0 e^x \neq 0 we conclude A = 0 A=0 and thus f ( x ) = 0 f(x)=0 .

Isaac Buckley - 5 years, 5 months ago

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@Isaac Buckley Right... Thanks for clarification :)

Zeeshan Ali - 5 years, 5 months ago

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@Zeeshan Ali Yes, it can be tricky writing a complete proof that expresses exactly what we are thinking.

The important part of this problem is showing that " f ( x ) = f ( x ) f'(x) = f(x) if and only if f ( x ) = A e x f(x) = A e ^ x for some A A .

Currently, what you wrote is "If f ( x ) = A e x f(x) = A e^x , then f ( x ) = f ( x ) f'(x) = f(x) .". As such, it only explains why "For this particular family of solutions, we must have A = 0 A = 0 ". It doesn't explain "Why aren't there other solutions with a different value of f(2015)"?

Calvin Lin Staff - 5 years, 5 months ago

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@Calvin Lin I don't have any other possible outcome for f(2015) still.

Zeeshan Ali - 5 years, 5 months ago
Skye Chen
Jan 1, 2016

I just thought of f (x)=0, it's a linear equation that's a derivative of itself. And also satisfied f (2)=0. It may not be a good solution, but it works. Therefore, if x=2015, f (2015)=0

Riccardo Lombardi
Dec 21, 2015

You can solve Cauchy's problem y'=y with y(2)=0. y is continue (y'=y implies the existence of derivative)

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