Disc Partitioned - 1

There is a circular disc of radius R R which is undergoing pure rolling on a surface.

If V V is the velocity of center of mass of the disc, then find the area of collection of points on the disc for which the magnitude of velocity is less than V V in SI units.

Given R = 1 meter R=1 \text{ meter} .


The answer is 1.228369.

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2 solutions

Jatin Sharma
Jan 27, 2016

When a disc is rolling on the ground then we know that its instantaneous axis of rotation is the point on disc in contact with the ground. Considering that point We can find the velocity of any point of the disc by using v = ω × r v = ω \times r . Where r r is the position vector of any point of the disc with the point of contact as the origin and ω is the angular velocity vector. According to question,

v < V |v|<|V|

ω × r < ω × R \Rightarrow |ω \times r| < |ω \times R| Because V = ω × R V = ω \times R where R is the position vector of COM of disc. As angle between ω and r (radius vector) is always π 2 \frac{\pi}{2} , we can write it as : ω × r < ω × R s i n ( π 2 ) = 1 |ω| \times |r| < |ω| \times |R| \because sin(\frac{\pi}{2}) = 1

r < R \Rightarrow |r| < |R|

Thus we can make an arc of radius R from the point of contact and the area of the disc inside that arc can easily be calculated by splitting it into two segments of equal area.

The final answer is 2 π 3 3 2 \frac{2\pi}{3} - \frac{\sqrt{3}}{2} square meters.

Great question

vidhan singh - 5 years, 3 months ago

nice one!!

Rohith M.Athreya - 5 years, 3 months ago

Good ques bro Is it original ??

Gauri shankar Mishra - 5 years, 4 months ago

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Not really. Kinda modified though. It'll be a better question if I ask for the ratio of kinetic energies of the two parts. But I wasn't sure if people would be able to solve that much. I might make a part two!

Jatin Sharma - 5 years, 3 months ago

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Yes I am waiting for that!!!!!!!!!

Gauri shankar Mishra - 5 years, 3 months ago

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@Gauri shankar Mishra Try this now! Disc Partitioned - 2

Jatin Sharma - 5 years, 3 months ago

Really enjoyed solving and looking for part 2

aryan goyat - 5 years, 3 months ago

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Putting up part two. I think its crazy tough and messy too!

Jatin Sharma - 5 years, 3 months ago

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where is it?

aryan goyat - 5 years, 3 months ago

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@Aryan Goyat Disc Partitioned - 2 There you go! Enjoy :D

Jatin Sharma - 5 years, 3 months ago

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@Jatin Sharma i wanted to know the ratio of the moment of inertia has to be found about cm in part 2 and if yes is the answer around 1.71 as it my last chance to answer it correctly, i will immediately delete the comment after your respond .

aryan goyat - 5 years, 3 months ago

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@Aryan Goyat Really sorry for the confusion there. Totally My bad! I have amended the question accordingly. And there is no need for you to delete the comment :) Its alright. And sorry for wasting your chances. I will post the question again deleting this one. So you can restart :). There is no other one who has attempted anyway.

Jatin Sharma - 5 years, 3 months ago

Wow. Brilliant solution. I was thinking about the same question and posted it here. Thought it was original till I saw your question right now. Could you please check my question (https://brilliant.org/problems/geometry-or-rotation/?ref_id=1431938). I know its very similar, but if you want, I shall remove my question. Waiting for your reply. Thanks.

Akash Saha - 3 years, 6 months ago

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Its alright! No need to remove it :) Glad to find someone with similar though process btw.

Jatin Sharma - 3 years, 6 months ago
Mark Hennings
Aug 11, 2016

If we adopt a coordinate system O x y z Oxyz with O x Ox horizontal, O y Oy vertically upwards, and O O at the centre of the disc, then the angular velocity of the disc is ω = ( 0 0 V R ) \mathbf{\omega} \; = \; \left( \begin{array}{c} 0 \\ 0 \\ -\frac{V}{R}\end{array}\right) (since the disc is rolling, the point of contact A A must be instantaneously at rest, and this determined the magnitude of the angular velocity). Thus the velocity of a point on the disc with coordinates ( x , y , 0 ) (x,y,0) is v = ( V 0 0 ) + ω × ( x y 0 ) = ( V + V R y V R x 0 ) \mathbf{v} \; =\; \left(\begin{array}{c} V \\ 0 \\ 0 \end{array} \right) + \mathbf{\omega} \times \left(\begin{array}{c} x \\ y \\ 0 \end{array} \right) \; = \; \left(\begin{array}{c} V + \frac{V}{R}y \\ -\frac{V}{R}x \\ 0 \end{array} \right) and hence v < V |\mathbf{v}| < V precisely when x 2 + ( y + R ) 2 < R 2 x^2 + (y+R)^2 < R^2 . Thus the required region of the disc is the intersection of the two discs x 2 + y 2 < R 2 x 2 + ( y + R ) 2 < R 2 x^2 + y^2 < R^2 \qquad \qquad x^2 + (y+R)^2 < R^2 By standard circle-thinking, this region has area 2 [ 1 2 R 2 2 π 3 1 2 R 2 sin 2 π 3 ] = [ 2 3 π 1 2 3 ] R 2 2\Big[\tfrac12 R^2 \tfrac{2\pi}{3} - \tfrac12 R^2 \sin\tfrac{2\pi}{3}\Big] \; = \; \Big[\tfrac23\pi - \tfrac12\sqrt{3}\Big]R^2 making the desired answer 2 3 π 1 2 3 = 1.22837 \tfrac23\pi - \tfrac12\sqrt{3} = \boxed{1.22837} .

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