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I saw this way to solve in a site. I will now try with a multiple of 7:
8 6 5 6 2 ⇒ 8 6 5 6 − 2 ⋅ 2 = 8 6 5 2
8 6 5 2 ⇒ 8 6 5 − 2 ⋅ 2 = 8 6 1
8 6 1 ⇒ 8 6 − 1 ⋅ 2 = 8 4
8 4 is divisible by 7 , so 8 6 5 6 2 is too: 8 6 5 6 2 ÷ 7 = 1 2 3 6 6 .
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how does this method work
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Write the original number as 10t+u. If we subtract double the unit digit (2u) from the number without the unit digit (t), we have t - 2u. So, if this number is divisible by 7, does that imply that our original number is divisible by 7? Let's check.
t - 2u = 7n for some integer n. Rearranging, we get t = 2u + 7n . Multiplying by 10, we get 10t = 20u + 70n . Adding u to get back to our original number, 10t + u = 21u + 70n.
21u is divisible by 7, as is 70n, so the conclusion follows.
Your method seems consistent with all the numbers that i try but Can you give a proof for this?
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okay, lets start with a 4 digit number, 1000a +100b+10c+d.Now,do those steps.This gets us 100a+10b+c-2d.multiply this by 4. 400a+40b+4c-8d.Add this to the first equation.1400a+140b+14c-7d.Lets make a new equation.1400a+140b+14c-7d=1000a +100b+10c+d+4(100a+10b+c-2d).Now,we are trying to see if 1000a +100b+10c+d is divisible by 7.Moving some numbers,we get 7(200a+20b+2c-d)-4(100a+10b+c-2d)=100a+100b+10c+d.Since 7 and 4 are relatively prime,100a+10b+c-d must be divisible by 7 in which 100a+100b+10c+d is forced to be a multiple of 7.
Now,how does this generalize for any number.Well,looking into 1400a+140b+14c-7d,and doing the same with more or less digits,we can see that from the tens digit onwards, with this trick ,it is always a multiple of 14 and the units digit is a multiple of 7 too.
In other words, by subtracting twice the units digit,-2d from the original number with out its units digit,100a+10b+c.
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@Razzi Masroor – Write this on a sheet of paper, this will make more sense.
There's a proof on this website.
It's an interesting demonstration of a number evenly divided by 7, but isn't it faster to just divide by 7 to figure this one out?
This way is a lot more easy to do
=> 87985 - 35 = 87950 (from 7x5=35)
=> (87)95(0) - 35(0) =87600 (from 7x50=350)
=> (8)76(00) - 35(00) =84100 (from 7x500=3500)
=> (8)41(00) - 21(00) =82000 (from 7x3=21)
=> 82 - 70= 12........12 is not divisible by 7.
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yap, i use this way too
i did not get the process please give some different explanation for the same...
easy to solve as advised. THANKS
Do you do PIC ?
I never understood the point of these kind of methods. Its much simpler to just divide it bit by bit abs see if your left with anything. For example: 87,985=70,000+17,985 70,000 is divisible by 7 17,985=14,000+3,985 14,000 divisible by 7 3,985=3,500+485 485=420+65 65=63+2 2 is not divisible by 7 so 87985 is not divisible by 7 (and leaves a reminder of 2)
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Wow, much better
That's exactly what my thought process was :)
I solved it this way: 87985-35=87950 87950-7000=80950 80950-350=80600 806 is not divisible by 7, so the answer must be no!
Yes, 87985 ist divisible by 7. The result is 12569 and 2 seventh.
How does this rule work?
Since I was unaware of the method shown, I had to resort to the simplest method remaining to me. It's called long division. Took about 2 seconds.
What's the proof??
more than confusing to me too bad explanation make it easier
Except when dealing with smaller numbers, this doesn't work:
121 -> 12 -> 12 - 1 * 2 ||| 10 is not divisible by 11, but 121 is.
please explain it more i didn't understand it at all specially this part 5.2 - 8.2 - 2.2 how did u get these numbers ??? what is the mechanism and please simplify it as u can because my scientific english is bad
:) Thank you! I did not know there was a rule for divisibility by 7! I was in mind of the distributive law: 87985 = 80000 + 7000 + 900 + 85. I know by inspection that the only one of those that's divisible by 7 is 7000, and it's both intuitively apparent and arithmetically true that since 80985 is not divisible by 7, 7000+80985 can't be either.
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Even though 7000 is the only component which is divisible by 7, that does not mean the whole number is not, in general. For example, suppose the last two digits were 83 instead of 85. 80983 is divisible by 7, while 7000 is still the only component which is.
it would be faster by starting with 9 8 5 − 8 7 = 8 9 8 8 9 − 2 × 8 = 7 3
Subtract large multiples of 7 from 8 7 9 8 5 until the division is easier.
For example:
7 7 7 7 7 is clearly divisible by 7 .
8 7 9 8 5 − 7 7 7 7 7 = 1 0 2 0 8
7 7 7 7 is clearly divisible by 7 .
1 0 2 0 8 − 7 7 7 7 = 2 4 3 1
7 7 7 is clearly divisible by 7 .
2 4 3 1 − 7 7 7 = 1 8 5 4
By mental arithmetic, we can see that 1 8 5 4 ≡ 0 ( m o d 7 ) , so the original 8 7 9 8 5 is not divisible by 7 . Although just regular division probably would have been faster.
had a solution similar to yours except I subtracted 84000, 3500, and 420, and was left to judge it on 65
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Literally me. Except if you really think about it, its long division except we only divide to check for divisiblility
Same here.
Isn't it easier to just do the division by 7 mentally?
Wow nice solution!
I did something similar -35 -350 -5600 Left me with 82000 which is not divisible by 7 because 82 is not divisible by 7
Mental long division:
87(000) / 7(000) = 12, remainder 3(000) so left with 3985.
Follow with 39(00) / 7(00) = 5, remainder 4(00), left with 485.
Follow: 48(0) / 7(0) = 6, remainder 6(0),
Finally: 65. 65 / 7 = 9, remainder 2. So not divisible exactly by 7.
this is the method I'm using
I looked at the first too solutions and thought "Too hard for me. I just did mental long division." As I was thinking the words, I scrolled down and saw your post. FREAKY!
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By mental arithmetic I just started at the left hand digit, divided by 7 and mentally carried the remainder. In this wise.. 8/7, rem 1. 17/7, rem 3. 39/7, rem 4. 48/7, rem 6, 65/7, rem 3.. nope, not evenly divisible. I did this because I couldn't remember my year 10 assignment for the tests of divisibility! (Some 28 years ago! :)
I started with 87/7 (or 87,000/7000) leaves you with a remainder of 3 (or 3,000)----so 3,985 is left. 39/7 leaves you with 485. 48/7 leaves you with 65, and 7 cannot factor equally into 65.
Basically the most widely used long division algorithm done in my head.
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I believe that is how we were taught to divide numbers in school, except you did in mentally.
This seemed like the easiest solution to me as well.
In fact dividing the number directly is more time efficient in this scenario.
I have gone though different solutions of my peers and their approaches to the problem! I personally feel some methods are better than mine. But at least i want to share my knowledge! i came across this rule in a book!
A integer n is divisible by 7, 11 or 13 if and only if the difference of the number of its thousands and the remainder of its division by 1000 is divisible by 7,11 or 13
now the solution becomes: 985 - 87 = 898 By seeing the number we can come to a conclusion that the number is not divisible by 7. Moreover if in case we were asked to find the remainder also, no additional effort is required to find it. It will be the same when 898 is divided by 7 which is 2!
Don't get used to putting an exclamation mark after a number, because in most cases it will be understood as factorial.
no hate it
Split it 8 7 9 8 5. Starting from the MSB ,find remainder of each number while dividing with 7 and append the remainder with the next number with and do the same process ,continue till end. Now rem(rem(rem(rem(rem(8/7)7)9)8)5) = 5 ; not equal to zero. Hence it's not divisible by 7. Used the concept of normal division :p.I felt this as faster for any divisibility check if the divisor is a single digit.
It's easier to tell the reader that you just did long division.
As 1001 is a multiple of 7 ( , 11 and 13), 87870 is also a multiple of 7. It left 115 which is not a multiple of 7, means that 87985 is not divisible by 7.
The divisibility rule for 7 is to double the last digit of the number then subtract it from the total from the other digits. In this case the answer would be 22. Since 22 is not divisible by 7, neither is 87985.
85 can't divisible by 7. so the correct answer is no.
Here Is the new formula you can get 100% result by using it:
Number: 87985
step 1: take first two digits(87) divide it by 7 => remainder is:3
step 2: now put 3 in front of rest of the number which is(985) making it =>3985
step 3: Repeat (step 1) until you left with last two digits which in this will be =>65
step 4: check 65/7 => not divisible yielding remainder 2 so the number is not divisible by 7
By doing these above steps you can easily get to the result without using a pen and paper just by doing it Orally!!!!!
I used a calculator
Let a(0),a(1),a(2)...be the unit's, ten's, hundred's etc. digits of a number. Then, if 3(a(1)-a(4)+a(7)-a(10)+a(13)-a(16)...)+2(a(2)-a(5)+a(8)-a(11)+a(14)-a(17)+...)+(a(0)-a(3)+a(6)-a(9)+a(12)-a(15)+...) be divisible by 7, then the number is also divisible by 7
The key is to break this integer down as the sum of smaller integers, then use modular arithmetic. Divisibility by 7 is equivalent to congruence to 0 mod 7. To start, we have:
8 7 9 8 5 = ( 7 0 0 0 0 + 1 0 0 0 0 ) + ( 7 0 0 0 ) + ( 7 0 0 + 2 0 0 ) + ( 7 0 + 1 0 ) + 5 .
Now use the fact that we can remove any integer multiple of 7 from the right-hand side, and we'll get a number that is congruent to it mod 7:
8 7 9 8 5 ≡ ( 1 0 0 0 0 ) + ( 2 0 0 ) + ( 1 0 ) + ( 5 ) ( m o d 7 ) = 1 0 0 2 1 5 ( m o d 7 ) .
You could also view this process as reducing the digits of 87985 to their residues mod 7. Now just repeat this until we get something managable:
1 0 0 2 1 5 = 1 0 0 0 5 + 2 1 0 ≡ 1 0 0 0 5 ( m o d 7 ) ,
1 0 0 0 5 ≡ 3 0 0 5 ( m o d 7 ) , because 1 0 ≡ 3 ( m o d 7 ) ;
3 0 0 5 ≡ 2 0 5 ( m o d 7 ) , because 3 0 ≡ 2 ( m o d 7 ) ;
2 0 5 ≡ 6 5 ( m o d 7 ) , because 2 0 ≡ 6 ( m o d 7 ) ,
and because 6 5 = 7 0 − 5 ≡ − 5 ( m o d 7 ) ≡ 2 ( m o d 7 ) , this number is not divisible by 7.
Mental long division, but don't really need the quotient, just the remainder.
87985 / 7
8 (...) / 7 remainder 1, then bring down the next digit
1 7 / 7 remainder 3
3 9 / 7 remainder 4
4 8 / 7 remainder -1 or 6
6 5 / 7 remainder 2
87985 - 7000 = 80985. 80985 - 980( this is 140 * 7) = 80005. 80005 - 70000 = 10005. 10005 - 10010 (this is 1430 * 7) = -5. -5 is not divisible by 7.
subtract 77770 = 10215 subtract 7000 = 3215 subtract 2800 = 415 subtract 350 = 65 so remainder is 2
87985
So 87985 do not ⫶ 7
The divisibility rule of 7 is as follows:
If you double the last digit and subtract it from the rest of the number and the answer is:
(Note: you can apply this rule to that answer again if you want)
Applying the rule here, we have:
8 7 8 9 5 → 8 7 8 9 5 − 1 0 = 8 7 8 8 5 → 8 7 8 7 5 → 8 7 8 6 5 . . . → 5 , which is indivisible by 7 , therefore, the answer is No .
I see a lot of long winded ways to find a solution that is easily and quickly done mentally using long division
Remove the last digit, double it, subtract it from the truncated original number and continue doing this until only one digit remains. If this is 0 or 7, then the original number is divisible by 7. Now checking 87985 :-
8798 - 2x5 = 8788 878 - 2x8 = 862 86 - 4 = 82 8 - 4 = 4 4 isn't divisible by 7, so 87985 is not divisible by 7
check the last digit of the number. here it is 5. the number here can be splited as 87950 + 35. Now you have to just check for 87950 which indirectly is checking 8795. now last digit of it is 5. so it can be split as 8760 + 35............ the procedure is as follows:
87985 = 87950 + 35 = 8795*10 + 35 // Now, we have to just check for 8795
8795 = 8760 + 35
876 = 820 + 56
82 = 77 + 5
=> Not a multiple f 7
87985-70000 = 17985 17985-14000 = 3985 3985- 3500 = 485 and 490 is divisible by 7 so 87985 is not divisible by 7
I found it easier. Divide 85/7. If it is exactly, we go on with the other numbers. If the last two digits fails to return exact result, then the answer is NO
wrong 385 / 7 =55
8 -> 1 17 -> 3 39 -> 4 48 -> 6 65 -> 2
thus 87985 gives a remainder of 2 when divided by 7 -> No Best part? you can do all those calculation in your head
70000 is divisible by 7, so it´s 14000, then 84000 (70000 + 14000) is too, 3500 is divisible by 7, and 87500 (84000 + 3500) is too, 490 is divisible by 7, so it´s 87990 (87500 + 490), but 87990 - 7 = 87983, and if 87983 is divisible by 7, 87985 is not.
Took me about 20 seconds to work out, not sure how everybody else took so long.
If you simply use long division (a method), you can quickly find the answer, you don't even need a pen and paper.
7 / 87985
You first divide by the first digit. 8 / 7 leaves a remainder of 1. (8 goes into 7 once leaving 1 left over, also known as the remainder)
You then place the previous remainder in front of the next digit. Next digit is 7, remainder is 1, therefore next value is 17. 17 / 7 leaves a remainder of 3. (7 goes into 17 twice, leaving 3 left over)
Repeat until you get to the end.
39 / 7, remainder = 4 48 / 7, remainder = 6 65 / 7, remainder = 2
We've come to the last digit in the original number which was 5, we had a remainder of 6 from the previous part and so changed the number to 65, divided it by 7 and the result has a remainder of 2, which means that it is not exactly divisible by 7.
Honestly, this is primary school maths, I remember being taught this years ago. However it only shows if a number is directly divisible by 7, the remainder we have when we've finished the process only tells us that it isn't directly divisible by whatever number we were dividing by originally.
If you haven't heard of long division, it's something you can pick up and learn very easily on the internet, and although I imagine you won't be dividing massive numbers very often, it's still worth learning.
Also, the answer comes to
Twelve thousand, five hundred, sixty nine and two sevenths 12569 + 2/7
The question was is the number divisible by 7, not is it evenly divisible by 7, so the answer is YES, with a remainder of 2
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Er, well I suppose you could say any number is divisible by any number in that case, but it seems quite clear the question is asking if it's exactly divisible by seven.
I dont know what is the right solution is and I just do some of my own techniques. On this problem, I just simply add all the numbers in the dividends. 87985 = 8+7+9+8+5 = 37 Then simply identify if the sum of the dividends is divisible by 7. Obviously, 37 is not divisible by 7. So, the answer is simply NO.
That worked in this case just by luck, but consider the number 85985:
8 + 5 + 9 + 8 + 5 = 35 (which is divisible by 7)
BUT
85985 / 7 = 12283, remainder 4. (i.e. 85985 is NOT divisible by 7)
By looking at this example, we can see that the method of adding up the digits and checking the divisibility of that sum by the divisor in question is not a valid way to check for divisibility.
Check some of the other posts here, there are several great methods already posted :)
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Actually, that is the rule for divisibility by 9: if the sum of the digits is divisible by 9, so is the number. Similarly, if the sum of the digits is divisible by 3, so is the number, and if even, it is also divisible by 6. In the case of very long numbers, the process can be applied recursively until the sum of the digits can be tested by inspection.
Finding a number can be divided by seven : divisibility rule of 7 The divisibility rule for number 7 helps in finding whether a number is exactly divisible by 7. The rules are illustrated with clear examples for easier understanding. Divisbility Rule of 7 : The last digit is multiplied by 2 and subtracted from the rest of the number. The result is either 0 or divisible by 7.
Example : i) 2205 ii) 9751
Explanation : i) 2205 Last digit multiply by 2, 5 * 2 = 10 Subtracted rest of digits, 220 - 10 = 210 Divisible by 7, 210 / 7 = 30
ii) 9751 Last digit multiply by 2, 1 * 2 = 2 Subtracted rest of digits, 975 - 2 = 973 Last digit multiply by 2, 3 * 2 = 6 Subtracted rest of digits, 97 - 6 = 91 Last digit multiply by 2, 1 * 2 = 2 Subtracted rest of digits, 9 - 2 = 7 Divisible by 7, 7 / 7 = 1
Both the numbers can be divided by 7.
One way to determine the number's divisibility by 7 is to subtract large numbers known to be divisible by 7. Choose numbers that can be subtracted easily using mental math. Eventually, this will yield a number that is small enough to recognize easily as being divisible by 7 or not.
87985 - 84000 = 3985
3985 - 3500 = 485
485 - 420 = 65
65 isn't divisible by 7, so 87,958 is not divisible by 7.
70,000 is divisible by 7 --> 87,985 - 70,000 = 17,985 ... 14,000 is divisible by 7 --> 17,985 - 14,000 = 3,985 ... 3,500 is divisible by 7 --> 3,985 - 3,500 = 485 ... 420 is divisible by 7 --> 485 - 420 = 65 ... 65 is not
I just did it the old fashion way in my head and ended up with 65 and immediately knew 7 doesn't divide cleanly into that. it would be 9 with a remainder of 2. 7 / 87985 = 12569 with a remainder of 2
87985 : 7
879 85
85 is not Divisible by 7
LOL
Without checking your answer, I answered same. Simply: 85 is not divisble by 7. Why other people make long calculations?
Wrong Method....
8+7+9+8+5=37 is nt divided by 7
Wrong method...applicable only for 3 and 9.
LOL. Now I know that there is a technique. All this time, i take the last 2 digits and divide it whether it is divisible or not :)
Any number is divisible by another number..Just may not be a whole number
8 - 7 = 1 then 17 - 14 = 3 then 39 - 35 = 4 then 48 - 42 = 6 then 65 is clearly not divisible by 7..
I know 87500 is a multiple of 7. The remainder 485 difers by 5 from 490 another multiple of 9. Then 87985 is not divisible by 7
A number is divisible by 7=>A last two digit divisible by 7
i don't know if my trick is 100% true :D
sizeof "87985" is 5 --> odd and 7 is --> odd,
odd/odd = no :D
even/odd = may-be :v
This solution has been marked wrong. Unlike divisibility of 2 , you cannot check whether a number is divisible 7 simply by observing its last digit.
8+7+9+8+5 = 37 37 % 7 = 2 since remainder is 2 , so 87985 is not divisible by 7.
This solution has been marked wrong. You're using the divisibility rules wrongly. You only check whether it's divisible by 3 if its sum of digits is divisible by 3 , same goes with 9 . However, you do not check for divisibility of 7 by checking whether its sum of digits is divisible by 7 .
how does it work ? what is the method ,it tried to say ?
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87985 is divisible by 7 or not ?
Combined test of divisibility for 7, 11 or 13.Method is useful for any big or small number.
Step 1 Make groups of 3 digits from the end (unit place) in above case groups are 87 985
Step 2 add all groups at odd places (1st, 3rd, 5th etc..) here only 1 group 985
Step 3 add all groups at even places (2nd, 4th, 6th, etc..) here only 1 group 87 (group may be of 1 or 2 or 3 digits depending on number of digits in given number)
Step 4 find difference in above 2 additions here 985 – 87 = 898
Step divide the difference by 7, 11, 0r 13 as the case may be.
898/7 = 128 2/7 it is not divisible 7, for test of eleven apply test not divisible by 11 and 898/13 = 69 1/3 not divisible by 13.
Even you can find remainder using this method.
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A number is divisible by 7 if the double of the unit digit, subtracted from the number without the unit digit, results in a number divisible by 7. If the number obtained is still great, repeat the process until you can check the division by 7 .
8 7 9 8 5 ⇒ 8 7 9 8 − 5 ⋅ 2 = 8 7 8 8
8 7 8 8 ⇒ 8 7 8 − 8 ⋅ 2 = 8 6 2
8 6 2 ⇒ 8 6 ⇒ 8 6 − 2 ⋅ 2 = 8 2
8 2 is not divisible by 7. So 8 7 9 8 5 is not divisible by 7 too.