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If a a and b b are coprime positive integers that satisfy

a + b a b + a b a + b = 17 4 , \frac{a+b}{a-b} + \frac{a-b}{a+b} = \frac{17}{4},

then what is a b ab ?


The answer is 15.

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2 solutions

Chew-Seong Cheong
Mar 29, 2018

a + b a b + a b a + b = 17 4 ( a + b ) 2 + ( a b ) 2 ( a b ) ( a + b ) = 17 4 2 ( a 2 + b 2 ) a 2 b 2 = 17 4 8 a 2 + 8 b 2 = 17 a 2 17 b 2 9 a 2 = 25 b 2 a 2 b 2 = 25 9 a b = 5 3 \begin{aligned} \frac {a+b}{a-b} + \frac {a-b}{a+b} & = \frac {17}4 \\ \frac {(a+b)^2+(a-b)^2}{(a-b)(a+b)} & = \frac {17}4 \\ \frac {2(a^2+b^2)}{a^2-b^2} & = \frac {17}4 \\ 8a^2+8b^2 & = 17a^2-17b^2 \\ 9a^2 & = 25b^2 \\ \frac {a^2}{b^2} & = \frac {25}9 \\ \frac ab & = \frac 53 \end{aligned}

Therefore, a = 5 a=5 and b = 3 b=3 and a b = 15 ab = \boxed{15} .

Naren Bhandari
Mar 28, 2018

a + b a b + a b a + b = 17 4 a 2 + b 2 a 2 b 2 = 17 8 c c c c c a 2 + b 2 a 2 b 2 = 2 2 ( 17 8 ) = 34 16 a 2 + b 2 = 34 c c c c c c a 2 b 2 = 16 \begin{aligned} & \dfrac{a+b}{a-b} +\dfrac{a-b}{a+b} = \dfrac{17}{4} \\& \dfrac{a^2+b^2}{a^2-b^2} = \dfrac{17}{8} \phantom{ccccc}\\& \dfrac{a^2+b^2}{a^2-b^2} =\dfrac{2}{2}\left(\dfrac{17}{8}\right)= \dfrac{34}{16} \\& a^2+b^2 =34 \phantom{cccccc} a^2-b^2 = 16\end{aligned} Solving for a a and b b we get a = 5 a=5 and b = 3 b=3 . So a × b = 15 a \times b = 15 .

Well, who said a and b are integers?

The problem says nothing like that.

Rahul Singh - 3 years, 2 months ago

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Agreed.. 3a=5b. Every iteration. (3,5) (6,10) (1/3, 1/5)

you con - 3 years, 2 months ago

What is the reason for multiplying by 2 up and down?

Vilakshan Gupta - 3 years, 2 months ago

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You're basically multiplying by 1, which is a little trick to use when solving expressions that seem a bit ugly.

César Castro - 3 years, 2 months ago

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Well....I also know that. I want to ask what is the motivation behind multiplying by 2 up and down.I mean....How do u know that after multiplying by 2 ... you can equate the numerator and denominators.....?

You could also multiply by 3 or 4 or anything.....

Vilakshan Gupta - 3 years, 2 months ago

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@Vilakshan Gupta It is intuition just like many things in Mathematics, in this case it greatly helps because you can see that 5 and 3 would be the numbers needed.

César Castro - 3 years, 2 months ago

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@César Castro Did you know the answer before solving the problem? I didn't know the answer...

It's just like just manipulating the expression just to get the right answer...because you already know the answer by hit and trial... It's not a complete solution.... and that's it!

Although Chew-Seong Cheong's solution is justified.

Vilakshan Gupta - 3 years, 2 months ago

You have posted some sorts of interesting problem. :)

Naren Bhandari - 3 years, 2 months ago

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@Naren Bhandari Thank you :)

César Castro - 3 years, 2 months ago

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