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Algebra Level 5

We know that, log ( x y z ) = log ( x ) + log ( y ) + log ( z ) {\color{#20A900}{\log(xyz) =\log (x)+\log (y) + \log (z)}}

But it's not true for, log ( x y z ) = log ( x + y + z ) {\color{#D61F06}{\log(xyz) = \log (x+y+z)}}

However, for some values of x , y x,y and z z the false property above is true.

If, 10 x , y , z 10 {-10\leq x,y,z\leq10} and x , y , z x, y, z are integers, then find the total number of ordered triples ( x , y , z ) {(x,y,z)} for which the equation above is true.

Note: The domain of the log \log function is positive reals.


The answer is 6.

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Md Omur Faruque
Aug 3, 2015

l o g ( x y z ) = l o g ( x + y + z ) \color{#69047E} {\boldsymbol {log(xyz) = log(x+y+z)}} log x is only defined when x>0 . So, we can rewrite the equation as, x + y + z = x y z ( i ) \color{#3D99F6}{\boldsymbol {x+y+z=xyz----(i)}} Only if, x y z > 0 \color{teal} {\boldsymbol{xyz>0} } .

For the i n e q u a l i t y \color{teal} {inequality} to be true, there can be two possible cases,

Case 1: x , y , z > 0 \color{teal} {\boldsymbol {\text{Case 1: } x, y, z>0}}

Let's assume, x y z \boldsymbol {x\leq y\leq z} x + y + z 3 z \boldsymbol {\Rightarrow x+y+z\leq 3z} x y z 3 z \boldsymbol{\Rightarrow xyz\leq 3z} x y 3 \boldsymbol {\Rightarrow xy\leq 3} So, we get only 3 possible integer pairs of ( x , y ) : \boldsymbol {(x, y):} ( 1 , 1 ) , ( 1 , 2 ) , ( 1 , 3 ) \boldsymbol {(1,1),(1,2),(1,3)} Putting these values in equation (i) \color{#3D99F6} {\text{equation (i)}} , we get only one possible integer triple, ( x , y , z ) = ( 1 , 2 , 3 ) \boldsymbol {(x, y, z) =(1,2,3)} Now, if we take out the condition of x y z \boldsymbol {x\leq y\leq z} , the total number of triples we get is, 3 ! = 6 \color{#69047E} {\boldsymbol {3!=\boxed{6}}}

Case 2: Any 2 of the 3 variables is negative and the other one is positive. \color{teal} {\boldsymbol {\text{Case 2: Any 2 of the 3 variables is negative and the other one is positive.}}}

Let's assume x y < 0 < z \boldsymbol {x\leq y <0<z} .

Then, x + y < z \boldsymbol {x+y<z} x y z z < z \boldsymbol {\Rightarrow xyz-z<z} x y z < 2 z \boldsymbol {\Rightarrow xyz<2z} x y < 2 \boldsymbol {\Rightarrow xy<2}

This time we get 2 possible integer pairs of ( x , y ) : \boldsymbol {(x, y) :} ( 1 , 1 ) , ( 2 , 1 ) \boldsymbol {(-1,-1),(-2,-1)} But none of the pairs gives a positive integer value of z, when we put them in equation (i) \color{#3D99F6} {\text{equation (i)}} .

Thus, the total number of ordered triples is 6 \color{#69047E} {\boxed{6}} .

nice solution. did the same way

Gokul Kumar - 5 years, 10 months ago

You have not mentioned the Range of the function. Negative logarithms are defined, they just do not come in the set of real numbers.

l o g ( a ) = l o g ( b ) a = b log(a)=log(b) \Rightarrow a=b regardless of the value of a a and b b , only difference it would make is that l o g ( a ) , l o g ( b ) C log(a),log(b) \in \mathbb{C}

Vishnu Bhagyanath - 5 years, 10 months ago

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Your interpretation is only true for complex logarithm. And, if the question was about complex logarithm, it would have been mentioned clearly.

MD Omur Faruque - 5 years, 10 months ago

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If you mean l o g ( z ) log(z) where z is a complex number, it's not the same as a negative logarithm. I mistyped the last sentence earlier.

Vishnu Bhagyanath - 5 years, 10 months ago

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@Vishnu Bhagyanath And if you mean negative logarithm isn't a part of complex logarithm, then I think you are doing a big mistake.

MD Omur Faruque - 5 years, 10 months ago

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@Md Omur Faruque Did I say it wasn't? Did you mention in the question that R a n ( l o g ( x ) ) = R Ran(log(x)) = \mathbb{R} ?

Vishnu Bhagyanath - 5 years, 10 months ago

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@Vishnu Bhagyanath You mean why I didn't mention that it isn't complex logarithm.

Well, I didn't need to. When we see log x \log x , we take it as principal logarithm. And it's range is R .

MD Omur Faruque - 5 years, 10 months ago

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@Md Omur Faruque I don't see the harm in mentioning it :)

Vishnu Bhagyanath - 5 years, 10 months ago

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@Vishnu Bhagyanath Oh, you too! I also didn't see the harm in not mentioning it ;)

MD Omur Faruque - 5 years, 10 months ago
Istiak Reza
Aug 6, 2015

From inspection we find that the identity xyz=x+y+z is only true for positive integers 1, 2 and 3. The identity doesn't hold for any other combination in the given interval. So the total number of ordered triplets is 3!=6

From inspection you can only say that, x y z > 0 \boldsymbol {xyz>0} .

You can say neither they are all positive \color{#D61F06} {\text{positive}} nor they are all integers \color{#D61F06}{\text{integers}} .

MD Omur Faruque - 5 years, 10 months ago

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