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Calculus Level 3

a a a = 4 \huge a^{a^{a^{\cdot^{\cdot^\cdot}}}}=4

How many positive real solutions a a does the above equation have?

Clarification : The value of the infinite power tower a a a . . . a^{a^{a^{.^{.^.}}}} is defined as the limit of the sequence x 0 = a , x n + 1 = a x n . x_0=a, x_{n+1}=a^{x_n}.

Bonus : Illustrate your solution with a Cobweb Plot .


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3 4 Infinitely many 0 1 2

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1 solution

Otto Bretscher
Feb 12, 2016

If a a is a solution, then we must have a 4 = 4 a^4=4 so a = 4 4 = 2 a=\sqrt[4]{4}=\sqrt{2} . This shows that a = 2 a=\sqrt{2} is the only real number that could possibly be a solution (the only "candidate").

But here we see that the value of the infinite power tower with a = 2 a=\sqrt{2} is actually 2 (not 4). Thus the given equation has 0 \boxed{0} solutions.

Why does this happen?

Hjalmar Orellana Soto - 5 years, 4 months ago

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Here is the best way to SEE why this happens (rather than just verifying it analytically):

(a) Draw the graphs of the function ( 2 ) x = 2 x / 2 (\sqrt{2})^x=2^{x/2} and x x on the same axes, intersecting at ( 2 , 2 ) (2,2) and ( 4 , 4 ) (4,4) .

(b) Now draw the cobweb starting at x = 2 x=\sqrt{2} and see how it zig-zags towards the point ( 2 , 2 ) (2,2) . The cobweb method is explained step-by-step here .

Otto Bretscher - 5 years, 4 months ago

I think the function f ( x ) = a x x f(x) = a^x-x has multiple roots and the iteration used in the exercise converges against them from below and you therefore end up with the wrong solution in this case(See this https://brilliant.org/problems/more-fun-with-power-towers/?group=yvVpX9gRy9Vh&ref_id=1116352)

Maximilian Wackenhuth - 5 years, 4 months ago

I think 4 is not in the range of x^x^x^x^x^x....

Rindell Mabunga - 5 years, 4 months ago

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Not in the function f ( x ) = x x x x . . . f(x)=x^{x^{x^{x^{...}}}} , but in the relation y = x x x x . . . y=x^{x^{x^{x^{...}}}} , and we can realize that is the same that y = x y y y = x y=x^y \rightarrow \sqrt[y]{y}=x . With this we can realize how its graph is (If you know it). The maximum value possible for x x is e e \sqrt[e]{e} and its relative to the point ( e e , e ) (\sqrt[e]{e},e) which belongs to the graph, after that point the value of x x begins to return slowly, converging to x = 1 x=1 , while y y is still going up forever, so I think 4 4 is right in the range the positive solution can actually be 2 \sqrt{2} , but all we know that the infinite power of 2 \sqrt{2} is 2 2 but not 4 4 .... I think this is maybe a case similar to the case of s q r t 1 sqrt{1} and x 2 = 1 x^2=1 . We should know that 1 = 1 \sqrt{1}=1 and the solutions for x 2 = 1 x^2=1 are x = 1 x=1 or x = 1 x=-1 , but this doesn't mean that 1 \sqrt{1} may be 1 1 or 1 -1 . In this problem we are asking if is there any positive solution for x x x x . . . = 4 x^{x^{x^{x^{...}}}}=4 and this is the same that asking if the relation y = x x x x . . . y=x^{x^{x^{x^{...}}}} has a positive a a such that ( a , 4 ) (a,4) belongs to its graph, and the point 2 , 4 \sqrt{2},4 does......

Hjalmar Orellana Soto - 5 years, 4 months ago

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No, the point ( 2 , 4 ) (\sqrt{2},4) does not satisfy the relation y = x x x . . . y=x^{x^{x^{...}}} ... that's the whole point of this problem. When x = 2 x=\sqrt{2} then y = 2 y=2 .

Otto Bretscher - 5 years, 4 months ago

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@Otto Bretscher Try here with y = x y y=x^y and x = 2 x=\sqrt{2} and look for the two intersections

Hjalmar Orellana Soto - 5 years, 4 months ago

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@Hjalmar Orellana Soto As the heading says: Don't be fooled! ;)

y = x y y=x^y is not equivalent to x x x . . . = y x^{x^{x^{...}}}=y ... that's the whole point of this problem.

Otto Bretscher - 5 years, 4 months ago

Well, that's the question I'm asking: Is 4 in the range? My answer is "no".

Otto Bretscher - 5 years, 4 months ago

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