When Is Factorial Of A Factorial Redundant?

n ! = ( n ! ) ! \large n! = (n!)!

How many non-negative integers of n n satisfy the equation above?

Notation : ! ! denotes the factorial notation.


The answer is 3.

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5 solutions

Rishabh Jain
Feb 13, 2016

n = 0 , 1 , 2 satisfy the given equation \Large n=0,1,2 \text{ satisfy the given equation}

How can 2 satisfy???

Fahim Abid - 5 years, 4 months ago

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Since 2!=(2!)!=2

Rishabh Jain - 5 years, 4 months ago

Over-rated @Mehul Arora : 3 \boxed{:3}

Aditya Kumar - 5 years, 4 months ago

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I set the rating to level 2.

It's not my fault :3

Mehul Arora - 5 years, 4 months ago

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Lol. Sab gadhe honge :P

Aditya Kumar - 5 years, 4 months ago

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@Aditya Kumar Lol could be :P

Mehul Arora - 5 years, 4 months ago

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@Mehul Arora Meanwhile see this

Aditya Kumar - 5 years, 4 months ago

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@Aditya Kumar W0W. Thanks for the hypothetical valentine :P

Mehul Arora - 5 years, 4 months ago

0! =1 1! =1 2! =2 hence only 3 digit

Sudhanshu Mishra - 5 years, 3 months ago

Is there any way to do this algebraically without trial and error?

a ( a 1 ) ( a 2 ) ( a n ) = b b ( b 1 ) ( b 2 ) ( b n ) = a a(a-1)(a-2)\ldots(a-n)=b\equiv b(b-1)(b-2)\ldots(b-n)=a a b \therefore a\equiv b If b = a ! b=a! then b ! = ( a ! ) ! b!=(a!)! only through trial and improvement (or by using common sense, i.e. that only small numbers might work) will you know that, by using small natural numbers of a a , b ! = ( a ! ) ! b!=(a!)! . These are 0, 1 and 2 as 0 ! 0! is 1 by convention, 1 × 1 = ( 1 × 1 ) ! 1\times 1=(1\times1)! and 2 × 1 = ( 2 × 1 ) ! 2\times 1=(2\times1)!

Chuka Nwobodo - 5 years, 4 months ago
Jack Rawlin
Feb 16, 2016

n ! = ( n ! ) ! n! = (n!)!

n = n ! n = n!

The only numbers which follow the rule directly above are 1 1 and 2 2 . 0 0 follows the initial expression as well since 0 ! = 1 0! = 1 . There are three possible integers hence the answer is 3 3 .


0 ! = ( 0 ! ) ! 1 = 1 ! 1 = 1 0! = (0!)! \rightarrow 1 = 1! \rightarrow 1 = 1

1 ! = ( 1 ! ) ! 1 = 1 ! 1 = 1 1! = (1!)! \rightarrow 1 = 1! \rightarrow 1 = 1

2 ! = ( 2 ! ) ! 2 = 2 ! 2 = 2 2! = (2!)! \rightarrow 2 = 2! \rightarrow 2 = 2

Jase Jason
Mar 20, 2016

Honestly, I didn't bother with 2 thinking it was wrong and went with 0, 1 and infinite

Are you certain factorial is defined for Infinity?

Mehul Arora - 5 years, 2 months ago
Sithija Abhishek
Feb 14, 2016

We know if a b a \neq b , a ! b ! a! \neq b! . So if n ! = ( n ! ) ! n! = (n!)! , n ! = n n!=n . We can easily check few small numbers and get n = 0 , 1 , 2 n=0,1,2

Um... there is one exception, 0 < 1, but 0! = 1!

Kobe Cheung - 5 years, 4 months ago

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