Doubling The Scales

Geometry Level 1

If I enlarge an equilateral triangle such that its area is doubled, will its perimeter be doubled as well?

Yes No

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6 solutions

Jesse Nieminen
Oct 9, 2016

Perimeter of an equilateral triangle with side length a a is equal to 3 a 3a .
Area of an equilateral triangle with side length a a is equal to 3 4 a 2 \dfrac{\sqrt{3}}4a^2 .

If we have an equilateral triangle with side length b b and with area twice as large as in an equilateral triangle with side length a a , we have 3 4 b 2 = 2 3 4 a 2 b = 2 a \dfrac{\sqrt{3}}4b^2 = 2\dfrac{\sqrt{3}}4a^2 \implies b = \sqrt{2}a .

Thus, the perimeter is not doubled because it is enlargened by a factor of 2 2 \sqrt{2} \neq 2 .

Hence the answer is No \boxed{\text{No}} .

Y H
Oct 9, 2016

The area of a polygon is given in square units, whereas the perimeter is expressed in linear units. Doubling the area is achieved by doubling just one dimension. Consider a rectangle, whose area is doubled by multiplying just one dimension by two. Multiplying both dimensions by two would result in an area four times as large as the original, whereas its perimeter would just be doubled.

Viki Zeta
Oct 9, 2016

Side in units = a Area, A = 3 4 a 2 A a 2 A a Perimeter, P = 3 a P a A P 2 As A increases Perimeter drastically increases. So it’s squared rather than doubled. \text{Side in units = }a\\ \text{Area, }A = \dfrac{\sqrt[]{3}}{4}a^2 \\ A \propto a^2 \\ \sqrt[]{A} \propto a \\ \text{Perimeter, }P = 3a \\ P \propto a \\ \implies A \propto P^2 \\ \text{As A increases Perimeter drastically increases. So it's squared rather than doubled.}

This solution is wrong. The correct proportion is A P 2 A \propto P^2 . (Luckily, the mistake still gave the right answer.)

Ivan Koswara - 4 years, 8 months ago

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That's what I thought.

Jesse Nieminen - 4 years, 8 months ago

Can you explain what is A, a, and P?

Alvin Willio - 4 years, 8 months ago

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A A is area, P P is perimeter, a a is side of triangle in units.

Viki Zeta - 4 years, 8 months ago

Where does the last line come from?

Jesse Nieminen - 4 years, 8 months ago

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A P \sqrt[]{A} \propto P , as P increases, A increases, but A \sqrt[]{A} decreases.

Viki Zeta - 4 years, 8 months ago

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A P A 1 P \sqrt{A} \propto P \implies A \propto \dfrac1P is not a tautology.

Jesse Nieminen - 4 years, 8 months ago

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@Jesse Nieminen Not always false. Propotionally it's true.

Viki Zeta - 4 years, 8 months ago

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@Viki Zeta It is false. When A A increases, A \sqrt{A} increases, so even the direction is wrong.

Ivan Koswara - 4 years, 8 months ago

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@Ivan Koswara Take the proportion between A \sqrt[]{A} and P P .

Viki Zeta - 4 years, 8 months ago

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@Viki Zeta x y x \propto y means that x = k y x = ky for some constant k. In this case A 1 P A \propto \dfrac1P would mean that A P = n AP = n for some constant n n which is clearly false.

Jesse Nieminen - 4 years, 8 months ago
Seth Christman
Oct 7, 2016

Area of a Triangle = 1 2 b h \dfrac{1}{2}bh

Perimeter of a Triangle = a + b + c a+b+c , where a , b , c a,b,c being the sides of the triangle.

With an equilateral triangle, we can simplify these equations since a = b = c a=b=c .

WLOG, Perimeter = 3 a 3a

Area = 1 2 a ( a 3 ) = a 2 3 2 \dfrac{1}{2}a(a\sqrt{3})=\dfrac{a^2\sqrt{3}}{2} ( h = a 3 h=a\sqrt{3} from a 30 , 60 , 90 30,60,90 triangle).

Now if we doulbe the Area, we are doubling a factor of a 2 a^2 . Thus, a a is being increased by a factor of 2 \sqrt{2} . Implying the perimeter is increased by a factor of 2 \sqrt{2} .

Vinicius Rocha
Oct 10, 2016

Proportional polygons have a constant of proportionality K in a way that, if a and b are the side lengths, and a' and b' are the side lengths of the Proportional polygon, then a/a' = b/b' = K. Supposing the proportional polygons as rectangles, the perimeter is given by 2a + 2b. We must realize that (2a + 2b)/(2a' + 2b') = K. The constant of proportionality for the area, however, is given by a b/a' b' = (a/a') * (b/b') = K*K = K^2. So, the proportion that relates the area of a polygon is equal to the square of the proportion that relates the side lengths and the perimeters.

Joe Potillor
Oct 8, 2016

Work backwards, Perimeter of an equilateral triangle is 3a, if you square the Perimeters (Area has dimension of 2) you'll get factor of 3 to 1, which is not double, and so Area does not double as a result from squaring the perimeter. (Area would go up by a factor of square root 2)

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