Dynamic Geometry: P116

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The diagram shows a black circle. A horizontal yellow chord is drawn creating two circular segments, their respective heights are 4 4 and 9 9 . In each circular segment, we inscribe a triangle. The triangles are both evolving so that the two orange angles are always equal. The purple line and the red line, are the Euler line of the triangles. When the red and purple line are exactly the same, the tangent of one orange angle can be expressed as p q \sqrt{\dfrac{p}{q}} , where p p and q q are square-free coprime positive integers. Find p q \sqrt{p-q} .
- Note : the triangles need to exist when the two lines are the same.


The answer is 10.

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1 solution

Chew-Seong Cheong
Apr 21, 2021

Let the dividing yellow chord be A B AB , and the upper and lower moving points be C C and C C' respectively. From the compilation of calculations in Dynamic Geometry: P96 Series , we know that A C B = π tan 1 12 5 \angle ACB = \pi - \tan^{-1} \frac {12}5 and A C B = tan 1 12 5 \angle AC'B = \tan^{-1} \frac {12}5 . Let the orange angle C A B = C A B = θ \angle CAB = \angle C'AB = \theta . Then C B A = tan 1 12 5 θ \angle CBA = \tan^{-1} \frac {12}5 - \theta and C B A = π tan 1 12 5 θ \angle C'BA = \pi - \tan^{-1} \frac {12}5 - \theta .

The slope of the Euler line of A B C \triangle ABC is given by:

m e = m A B m B C + m B C m C A + m C A m A B + 3 m A B + m B C + m C A where m X Y is the slope of side X Y . = m B C m C A + 3 m B C + m C A Since m A B = 0 = tan ( tan 1 12 5 θ ) tan θ + 3 tan ( tan 1 12 5 θ ) + tan θ Let t = tan θ = t 12 5 1 + 12 t 5 t + 3 t 12 5 1 + 12 t 5 + t = 5 t 2 + 24 t + 15 12 t 2 + 10 t 12 \begin{aligned} m_e & = - \frac {m_{AB}m_{BC}+m_{BC}m_{CA}+m_{CA}m_{AB}+3}{m_{AB}+m_{BC}+m_{CA}} & \small \blue{\text{where }m_{XY} \text{ is the slope of side }XY.} \\ & = - \frac {m_{BC}m_{CA}+3}{m_{BC}+m_{CA}} & \small \blue{\text{Since }m_{AB}=0} \\ & = - \frac {-\tan \left(\tan^{-1}\frac {12}5-\theta \right) \tan \theta + 3}{-\tan \left(\tan^{-1}\frac {12}5-\theta \right) + \tan \theta} & \small \blue{\text{Let }t = \tan \theta} \\ & = - \frac {\frac {t-\frac {12}5}{1+\frac {12t}5}t+3}{\frac {t-\frac {12}5}{1+\frac {12t}5}+t} \\ & = - \frac {5t^2+24t+15}{12t^2 + 10t -12} \end{aligned}

Similarly, the slope of the Euler line of A B C \triangle ABC' is:

m e = m B C m C A + 3 m B C + m C A = tan ( π tan 1 12 5 θ ) ( tan θ ) + 3 tan ( π tan 1 12 5 θ ) tan θ = 12 5 + t 1 12 t 5 t + 3 12 5 + t 1 12 t 5 t = 5 t 2 24 t + 15 12 t 2 10 t 12 \begin{aligned} m'_e & = - \frac {m_{BC'}m_{C'A}+3}{m_{BC'}+m_{C'A}} \\ & = - \frac {\tan \left(\pi - \tan^{-1}\frac {12}5 - \theta\right)(-\tan \theta) + 3}{\tan \left(\pi - \tan^{-1}\frac {12}5 - \theta\right)-\tan \theta} \\ & = - \frac {\frac {\frac {12}5+t}{1-\frac {12t}5}t+3}{-\frac {\frac {12}5+t}{1-\frac {12t}5}-t} \\ & = - \frac {5t^2-24t+15}{12t^2 - 10t -12} \end{aligned}

When m e = m e m_e = m'_e :

5 t 2 + 24 t + 15 12 t 2 + 10 t 12 = 5 t 2 24 t + 15 12 t 2 10 t 12 60 t 4 + 238 t 3 120 t 2 438 t 180 = 60 t 4 238 t 3 120 t 2 + 438 t 180 238 t 3 = 438 t Since t 0 119 t 2 = 219 t = tan θ = 219 119 \begin{aligned} \frac {5t^2+24t+15}{12t^2 + 10t -12} & = \frac {5t^2-24t+15}{12t^2 - 10t -12} \\ 60 t^4 + 238 t^3 - 120 t^2- 438 t -180 & = 60 t^4 - 238 t^3 - 120 t^2 + 438 t -180 \\ 238 t^3 & = 438t & \small \blue{\text{Since }t \ne 0} \\ 119 t^2 & = 219 \\ \implies t & = \tan \theta = \sqrt{\frac {219}{119}} \end{aligned}

Therefore p q = 219 119 = 10 \sqrt{p-q} = \sqrt{219-119} = \boxed {10} .

Thank you for posting !

Valentin Duringer - 1 month, 3 weeks ago

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You are welcome. It should be "Euler" in capital letter E. And "tangent" not "tangente".

Chew-Seong Cheong - 1 month, 3 weeks ago

Corrected.

Valentin Duringer - 1 month, 3 weeks ago

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And Euler not Eurler! :)

Jeff Giff - 1 month, 3 weeks ago

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lol I'm smoking too much XD

Valentin Duringer - 1 month, 3 weeks ago

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@Valentin Duringer Srsly? Or are you just kidding? :D

Jeff Giff - 1 month, 3 weeks ago

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@Jeff Giff Kiding of course, no drinking, no smoking, I just get distracted when I post.

Valentin Duringer - 1 month, 3 weeks ago

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@Valentin Duringer Oh I see :) that happens to me sometimes as well :)

Jeff Giff - 1 month, 3 weeks ago

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@Jeff Giff Indeed...I hope you still enjoy the series.

Valentin Duringer - 1 month, 3 weeks ago

@Valentin Duringer It's been a long time since I commented here. Anyway could you try replacing circle with something else bcos I getting used to these circles (but I don't always get the right answer)?

Omek K - 1 month, 2 weeks ago

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Ahaha you are a picky customer ;)

Valentin Duringer - 1 month, 2 weeks ago

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So is that a yes ?

Omek K - 1 month, 2 weeks ago

Other ideas are coming right now...but you'll see this setup again a few times...

Valentin Duringer - 1 month, 2 weeks ago

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Thank you for accepting my request

Omek K - 1 month, 2 weeks ago

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@Omek K New problem is posted now, hope you like it.

Valentin Duringer - 1 month, 2 weeks ago

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