Dynamics of Constrained Charged Particles

Consider the diagram above which indicates all masses and charges. The green chargeless point mass is connected to two charged particles (shown in red) by massless rigid rods of length L L . The green mass is given an initial velocity ( v v ) along the positive Y-direction at time t = 0 t=0 . At time t = 0 t=0 , the green mass is located at the origin and the coordinates of each of the red particles are ( L , 0 ) (L,0) and ( L , 0 ) (-L,0) . Both the red particles are initially at rest. The goal of this problem is to compute the minimum distance between the two red charged particles as the motion of the system evolves with time.

Note:

  • m o = L = 2 m_o = L=2

  • Q = m = 4 π ϵ o = 1 Q=m=4 \pi\epsilon_o=1

  • v = 0.5 v=0.5

  • Force between the charged particles is governed by Coulomb's law.

  • The green particle's speed does not necessarily remain constant with time. Note that only the initial speed and direction of projection is provided.

  • Gravity is absent throughout space.

Inspiration : Based on a problem shared by Neeraj Anand Badgujar and a comment by Steven Chase


The answer is 2.6667.

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As it is not mentioned, we assume that there is no gravity.

Since there is no external force acting on the system along the Y Y -direction, linear momentum of the system remains conserved along this direction. At the instant the charges are the closest, there is no motion of them along the X X -direction, and since the rods are rigid, their speeds along the Y Y -direction are equal, and equal to that of the uncharged particle. Let the required minimum seperation be x x and the velocity at that instant of each particle along the Y Y -direction be V V . Then the linear momentum conservation equation yields

m 0 v = ( m 0 + 2 m ) V m_0v=(m_0+2m)V

V = m 0 v m 0 + 2 m \implies V=\dfrac {m_0v}{m_0+2m}

Energy conservation equation yields

1 2 m 0 v 2 + Q 2 8 π ϵ 0 L \dfrac {1}{2}m_0v^2+\dfrac{Q^2}{8π\epsilon_0L}

= 1 2 ( m 0 + 2 m ) V 2 + Q 2 4 π ϵ 0 x =\dfrac{1}{2}(m_0+2m)V^2+\dfrac{Q^2}{4π\epsilon_0x}

Q 2 4 π ϵ 0 x \implies \dfrac{Q^2}{4π\epsilon_0x}

= m 0 m v 2 m 0 + 2 m + Q 2 8 π ϵ 0 L =\dfrac{m_0mv^2}{m_0+2m}+\dfrac{Q^2}{8π\epsilon_0L}

Substituting values we get

1 x = 1 4 + 2 × 1 2 4 = 3 8 \dfrac{1}{x}=\dfrac{1}{4}+\dfrac{2\times \frac{1}{2}}{4}=\dfrac{3}{8}

x = 8 3 2.6667 \implies x=\dfrac{8}{3}\approx \boxed {2.6667} .

Thank you very much for the solution. I have included a mention of absence of gravity in the problem statement.

Karan Chatrath - 1 year ago

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@Karan Chatrath Sir ,I have edited. Please remove the report.

Steven Chase
Jun 7, 2020

Fun problem. Let θ \theta be the angle of the rod below the horizontal. Let y 0 y_0 be the vertical position of the middle ball. The position and velocity of the ball on the right are:

x = L cos θ y = y 0 L sin θ x ˙ = L sin θ θ ˙ y ˙ = y ˙ 0 L cos θ θ ˙ x = L \cos \theta \\ y = y_0 - L \sin \theta \\ \dot{x} = -L \sin \theta \dot{\theta} \\ \dot{y} = \dot{y}_0 - L \cos \theta \dot{\theta}

Since x ˙ \dot{x} and y ˙ \dot{y} are zero in the beginning, and θ = 0 \theta = 0 as well, we know that θ ˙ = v L \dot{\theta} = \frac{v}{L} in the beginning. The kinetic energy, potential energy, and Lagrangian are:

T = m L 2 θ ˙ 2 + m y 0 ˙ 2 2 m L cos θ θ ˙ y 0 ˙ + 1 2 m 0 y 0 ˙ 2 V = k q 2 2 L cos θ L = T V = m L 2 θ ˙ 2 + m y 0 ˙ 2 2 m L cos θ θ ˙ y 0 ˙ + 1 2 m 0 y 0 ˙ 2 k q 2 2 L cos θ T = m L^2 \dot{\theta}^2 + m \dot{y_0}^2 - 2 m L \cos \theta \dot{\theta} \dot{y_0} + \frac{1}{2} m_0 \dot{y_0}^2 \\ V = \frac{k q^2}{2 L \cos \theta} \\ \mathcal{L} = T - V = m L^2 \dot{\theta}^2 + m \dot{y_0}^2 - 2 m L \cos \theta \dot{\theta} \dot{y_0} + \frac{1}{2} m_0 \dot{y_0}^2 - \frac{k q^2}{2 L \cos \theta}

Equations of motion:

d d t L y 0 ˙ = L y 0 d d t L θ ˙ = L θ \frac{d}{dt} \frac{\partial{\mathcal{L}}}{\partial{\dot{y_0}}} = \frac{\partial{\mathcal{L}}}{\partial{y_0}} \\ \frac{d}{dt} \frac{\partial{\mathcal{L}}}{\partial{\dot{\theta}}} = \frac{\partial{\mathcal{L}}}{\partial{\theta}}

Crunching out the math results in the following coupled linear system:

\[\begin{pmatrix} 2m + m_0 & -2 m L \cos \theta \\ -2 m L \cos \theta & 2 m L^2 \\

\end{pmatrix}

\begin{pmatrix} \ddot{y}_0 \\ \ddot{\theta} \\

\end{pmatrix} = \begin{pmatrix} -2 m L \sin \theta \, \dot{\theta}^2 \\ -\frac{k q^2}{2L} \sec \theta \tan \theta \\

\end{pmatrix} \]

Initialize variables appropriately and solve the linear system for the double-dot terms on every time step. Numerical integration yields a minimum distance D m i n 2.6667 D_{min} \approx 2.6667 between the balls on the side. Note that while there may be simpler solutions to this particular problem based on energy conservation, this approach allows examination of other aspects of the dynamics.

The plot below shows y 0 y_0 and θ \theta (in degrees) over time from t = 0 t = 0 to t = 100 t = 100 . You can see that θ \theta oscillates sinusoidally, while y 0 y_0 increases steadily with some small oscillation on top.

Thanks for the solution. While solving it myself, I did an additional check for the validity of the energy conservation principle. Unlike the previous problem, everything makes sense here. After solving numerically, I also played with the energy conservation equation a bit using the resulting numbers and noticed that the exact answer to this problem is 8 3 \frac{8}{3} . However, I could only arrive at this after using the numerical results and not naturally.

Karan Chatrath - 1 year ago

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Do you think it would be worthwhile to post a followup asking for the time period of motion of θ \theta , or some other aspect of the time dynamics?

Steven Chase - 1 year ago

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Nice suggestion. It would be. I'll conjure up something soon.

Karan Chatrath - 1 year ago

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@Karan Chatrath When the charged particles are closest, their relative motion will stop, and will never restart unless disturbed by an external force in the X X -direction, since the equilibrium is stable at that instant

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@A Former Brilliant Member Thanks for the comment. How do you prove that the minimal separation point is a stable equilibrium? For a stable equilibrium, the potential energy reaches a local minimum. In this case, at minimal separation, the PE reaches a local maximum.

Karan Chatrath - 1 year ago

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