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If f ( x ) = x 3 + a x 2 + b x + c f(x) = x^3+ax^2+bx+c has three distinct integral roots and given that f ( x 2 + 2 x + 2 ) = 0 f(x^2+2x+2)=0 has no real roots. Under the given constraints we can minimise the values of a , a, b b and c c . Let the minimum values of a , a, b b and c c be d , d, e e and f f respectively. Now let p ( x ) = x 3 + d x 2 + e x + f . p(x) = x^3+dx^2+ex+f. .

Let p ( x ) p'(x) denote the polynomial obtained by differentiating p ( x ) p(x) once with respect to x x .

Find the value of k k such that p ( x ) = k p'(x) = k has equal roots.


The answer is -1.

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2 solutions

First, a graph of the function should look like ( this ) so that it has a chance to have 3 distinct roots(ignore the fact that all are integers for now!).

So f ( x ) \displaystyle f^{ ' }\left( x \right) must have 2 distinct roots.(And let ignore this fact for now as well!)

Since f ( x 2 + 2 x + 2 ) \displaystyle f\left( { x }^{ 2 }+2x+2 \right) has no real roots, this means x 2 + 2 x + 2 = m \displaystyle { x }^{ 2 }+2x+2=m , where m is a root of the original polynomial, has no real roots. Then, m < 1 \displaystyle m<1 .(that is, all roots must be less than 1)

Minimising c can be done by putting the leftmost root equal to 0(now you can use the two above facts to help figuring why this is the case!).

So, f=0

Now f ( x ) = x ( x 2 + a x + b ) \displaystyle f\left( x \right) =x\left( { x }^{ 2 }+ax+b \right) and, by noticing that b is the product of roots and -a is the sum of roots, we then know that the minimum values for a and b are 3 and 2, respectively.

So, p ( x ) = x ( x 2 + 3 x + 2 ) \displaystyle p\left( x \right) =x({ x }^{ 2 }+3x+2) and p ( x ) = 3 x 2 + 6 x + 2 ) \displaystyle p^{ ' }\left( x \right) =3{ x }^{ 2 }+6x+2)

p ( x ) = 3 x 2 + 6 x + 2 ) = k \displaystyle p^{ ' }\left( x \right) =3{ x }^{ 2 }+6x+2)=k Now, the discriminant must be 0.

36 = 12 ( 2 k ) \displaystyle 36=12(2-k) and k = 1 k=\boxed{-1}

Nice!! . Deserves an upvote +1 :)

Prakhar Bindal - 4 years, 8 months ago

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exellent problem @Prakhar Bindal , enjoyed solving it , post more like this .

Rudraksh Sisodia - 4 years, 8 months ago

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Thanks a lot!

Prakhar Bindal - 4 years, 8 months ago

Why u consider a=3 and b=2 ?

Kushal Bose - 4 years, 8 months ago

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Because the least product of roots is -1 times -2 and this also gives the greatest sum of roots (-3) which then gives the least inverse of sum(3).

mwits fourslashfour - 4 years, 8 months ago

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Plz explain more why the roots are -1 and -2

Kushal Bose - 4 years, 8 months ago

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@Kushal Bose Let say you want to minimise "a" how would you do it? You gotta choose the roots to be -1 and -2 right because roots have to be distinct. Now, if you want to minimise "b" this can also be done by choosing -1 and -2 because the minimum value of product of two distinct negative integer is 2. So that is why roots must be -1 and -2

คลุง แจ็ค - 4 years, 8 months ago
Suhas Sheikh
Jul 29, 2018

Here's some insight as to why C should have a minimum value of 0 Suppose for the sake of brevity, that all the roots (integers)are negative This would imply that the product of the roots can become as small as we want it to and thus a minimum or maximum value of C does not exist( C could tend to very large values as far as the roots are concerned) Same arguments hold for a and B Thus we arrive at a contradiction that there exists no minimum value of the coefficients Hence our assumption of all roots being negative was incorrect Thus we see that as 1 Is not a root of F(x) 0 can be a root which minimises C to 0 And takes care of A and B too Now as A and B are integers themselves We easily see that the other roots (-1,-2)minimise A and B Note that the roots are all distinct so repeated roots being 0 is not an option here :)

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