If a and b are positive, what is the minimum possible value of b a + a b ?
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Hmmm.... strictly speaking, a , b ∈ R + would be correct. The set { a , b } itself is an element of R + is incorrect, although it is somewhat tolerable. Do edit your problem statement.
The question needs to be changed....What is the least positive integral value of........ Otherwise the answer would be -2 .
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It could be − ∞
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Yeah!!Sorry!!
Someone please edit the problem ! I guess you are a mod Julian, right ?
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@Venkata Karthik Bandaru – I can't edit it without the poster's permission, because it is changing the meaning of the problem.
It's given that a and b are positive. Hence a/b+b/a couldn't be equal to -2.
Alternative solution is use AM-GM inequality directly!!
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No you can't use it unless a , b are positive.
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But if it is mentioned that we have to find the least positive integral value then??
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@Naitik Sanghavi – I think it will be better to state the question as:
What is the least positive value of b a + a b , given that { a , b } ∈ ℜ ?
a and b can still be negative and the answer will still be 2 .
Very correct :P
What does the color difference of a and b imply? a and b can be same number or not ?
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Nothing, they just did it so that you could distinguish them more.
simple.. the minimum positive number is 1.. putting both a and b 1 you get 1+1=2
a and b have to be different numbers or otherwise denoting them as a and b is pointless
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Sorry if a and b are both 1 then 1 squared and 1 squared is equal to two and 1 squared is equal to 1 so 2 over 1 us equal to two
0.000....01 is also a positive number.
Using the property of Arithmetic Mean>=Geometric Mean, (a/b+b/a)/2>=sqrt(a/b x b/a) (a/b+b/a)>=2
Thats the exact method
Let b a = x > 0 then we wish to minimize f ( x ) = x + x 1 = x x 2 + 1 → f ′ ( x ) = x 2 2 x ⋅ x − ( x 2 + 1 ) = x 2 x 2 − 1 → f '(x) = 0 if and only if x = 1 since x > 0, and f '(x) < 0 if x ∈ ( 0 , 1 ) and f '(x) > 0 if x ∈ ( 1 , ∞ ) . Therefore, there is a minimum at x = 1 and f(1) =2 is the minimum of the expression above
After getting to a b a 2 + b 2 I considered that, to get the minimum value, since both of them are positive, we would need a = b . Therefore a 2 2 a 2 and the answer would be 2 . Is this a valid solution?
This too seems correct to me!
I thought it was ab+ab/ab lol, but I got the right answer. I suck
Since a , b ∈ R + , the minimum positive value of a,b is not 1 . It's 0 . 0 … 0 1
Using AM-GM, we will have b a + a b ≥ 2 b a × a b = 2
Consider the triangle with lengths a , b > 0 and c = a 2 + b 2 . Let θ be the angle between c and a . Then, b a + a b = a b c 2 = sin ( θ ) cos ( θ ) 1 = sin ( 2 θ ) 2 ≤ 2 . Hence, the result follows.
An easier Method will be by AM>GM :)
If a and b is positive then the least positive value for a and b is 1 Therefore, b a + a b = 1 1 + 1 1 =1+1 =2
They are positive real numbers, not positive integers. So, you can't say that the least value for a and b is 1 and 1 respectively. In fact, since they are positive, you just use the A M − G M inequality. b a + a b ≥ 2 × b a ⋅ a b = 2
So, the minimum value is 2
Why not 0.1? It is positive and is smaller than 1.
Max-Min Inequality works here as well. If you set a=b, you will either get a max or a min. And by simply plugging in, one finds a min. You can also prove this if you are fluent with Multivariable Calculus.
By more thinking,the lowest +ve number is what +0.1 !!!! So by putting value of a & b by +0.1,then we find that solution is becomes 2. ;-) ;-) Technology!!!!! Technique....
It's not about searching the lowest value and plugging in the equation, but using inequality techniques to find the solution.
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If { a , b } ∈ ℜ + , then ( a − b ) 2 ≥ 0
⇒ a 2 + b 2 ≥ 2 a b
⇒ a b a 2 + b 2 ≥ 2
⇒ b a + a b ≥ 2
Thus, the minimum positive value of the given expression is 2