Convex Quadratic?

Geometry Level 3

Consider a curve y = a x 2 + b x + c y=ax^2 +bx+c with a , b , c N a, b, c \in \mathbb{N} which passes through four points A ( 2 , 3 ) , B ( 1 , 1 ) , C ( α , β ) , D ( 2 , 7 ) A(-2,3),B(-1,1),C(\alpha ,\beta ),D(2,7) .

All these points are taken in given order for constructing a convex quadrilateral, which has maximum possible area.

Find minimum possible value of a + b + c + 2 α + 4 β . a+b+c+2\alpha +4\beta.


The answer is 11.

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3 solutions

The equation, as can be easily found by using the given points is x 2 + x + 1 x^2+x+1

Now, observe that area of triangle A B D ABD is fixed, hence all we have to do is maximize area of triangle B C D BCD . Since base B D BD is fixed, all that's left to do is to maximize perpendicular distance of C C from B D BD . This happens when the tangent at point C C has same value as the slope of line connecting B B and D D . Since in a parabola, the slope at a given point is proportional to its x x coordinate, the coordinate α \alpha that we are looking for will be the A.M of B B and D D . α = 1 / 2 \Rightarrow \alpha=1/2

Hence answer is 11 \boxed{11}

On an interesting note, we could have found out α \alpha without finding the equation of the curve! We had to find it only because of a , b , c a,b,c !

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This is the way ,I had killed it while solving , Even My freind do not agree in this claim. So I just posted this and expecting this solution ! Good job bro ! +1 :)

Deepanshu Gupta - 6 years, 3 months ago

Amazing solution and that AM part was awesome.

Gautam Sharma - 6 years, 3 months ago

Love the last part ! Its like playing around the wicket.

Arif Ahmed - 6 years, 3 months ago

What is the use of convex quadrilateral ?

Sahil Goyal - 4 years, 6 months ago

what about alpha = 0 and betha = 1?

Nik Gibson - 2 years, 11 months ago

That is way better than my method ! Thanks !

Keshav Tiwari - 6 years, 3 months ago

A very nice solutions! Thanks

Đức Tân Lâm - 5 years, 2 months ago
Gautam Sharma
Mar 15, 2015

We get the eq y = x 2 + x + 1 y=x^2+x+1 by the given three points.

Now for C( α , β \alpha,\beta ) ( α , α 2 + α + 1 ) \equiv (\alpha,\alpha^2+\alpha+1)

Now writing area of Δ B C D \Delta BCD in coordinates form

we obtain A = 3 x 2 + 3 x + 6 2 A=\frac{-3x^2+3x+6}{2} Differentiating and equating to zero

x = 1 2 = α x=\frac{1}{2} =\alpha

β = 7 / 4 \beta=7/4

Hence

a + b + c + 2 α + 4 β = 1 + 1 + 1 + 2 ( 1 2 ) + 4 ( 7 4 ) = 11 a+b+c+2\alpha+4\beta= 1+1+1+2(\frac{1}{2})+4(\frac{7}{4})=11

Good work +1 ! But there is even more shorter method ! Think , It is also interesting !

Deepanshu Gupta - 6 years, 3 months ago

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I think i got the other way using slope at ( α , β \alpha,\beta ) and equating it to slope at BD to maximise it .Is it right?

Gautam Sharma - 6 years, 3 months ago

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hmm ..yes , Gives It's explanation .

Deepanshu Gupta - 6 years, 3 months ago

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@Deepanshu Gupta Coz when they are parallel the distance bw them will be max and hence Δ = b a s e × h e i g h t 2 \Delta=\frac{base\times height}{2} will be max.

Gautam Sharma - 6 years, 3 months ago

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@Gautam Sharma Exactly ! ++1 :)

Deepanshu Gupta - 6 years, 3 months ago

Why did u equate the slopes??

rit tak - 3 years, 4 months ago

Main i just failed but I go to 1 graid

Jason Geo - 3 years, 2 months ago
Bratch Kroy
Jun 12, 2021

Actually I think the 'Level 5' label and the 39% correct rate doesn't match the real difficulty of this question...

First, it has friendly give out three points on the parabola, so we have: { 4 a 2 b + c = 3 a b + c = 1 4 a + 2 b + c = 7 \begin{cases} 4a-2b+c=3\\ a-b+c=1\\ 4a+2b+c=7 \end{cases}

Easy to know that a = b = c = 1 a=b=c=1 , so the equation of the parabola is y = x 2 + x + 1 y=x^2+x+1 .

For A , B , D A, B, D are fixed points, S A B D S_{\triangle ABD} is a fixed value. So we can just consider when S B D C S_{\triangle BDC} has maximum value.

Think the edge B D BD as the base of B D C \triangle BDC , which is fixed, and when does the height has maximun value? The answer is when B D Tangent of the parabola through point C BD\parallel\text{Tangent of the parabola through point C} .

So we have, S l o p e B D = d y d x x = α \displaystyle{Slope_{BD}=\frac{dy}{dx}\Big|_{x=\alpha}} , which is 2 = 2 α + 1 2=2\alpha+1 .

It is obivious that α = 1 / 2 \alpha=1/2 , and β = 7 / 4 \beta=7/4 . Substitute a , b , c , α , β a,b,c,\alpha,\beta into the origin fomula and we'll have 11 \boxed{11} .

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