Below is the graph of the equation 4 x 2 = y ( 1 − y ) ( 2 − y ) 2 rotated about the y -axis.
Find the volume of the egg.
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I did the same thing but integrated between 0 to 2.... why it is wrong...
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Note that 4 x 2 = y ( 1 − y ) ( 2 − y ) 2 . When y > 1 , 1 − y < 0 and x has no real value.
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Thanks sir
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@Adarsh Adi – strictly, there is a single point at (0,2) floating above the egg!. but it adds nothing to the volume!
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@Max Patrick – Yes, you are right. x = 0 is defined, when y = 2 .
same mistake here :(
There's a little failure in the figure. It had to be δy instead of δx. But I imagine it's hard to change now...
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Yes, I have to change it.
Done. Thanks again.
Egg height = 1 Egg radius = x in point f'(x) = 0 Its around 0.38, vol ~ 4/3 * pi * 1/2 * (0.38)^2 ~ 0.302
I just dont get where is the third cutting y axis point. It should be cut in three places (0,0), (0,1) and (0,2). Something stinks somehow with the graph.
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Note that 4 x 2 = y ( 1 − y ) ( 2 − y ) 2 . x has no real value for y > 1 except y = 2 , when x = 0 . The graph is an egg for 0 ≤ y ≤ 1 and a point (with no volume) at 0 , 2 .
Why is the area pi x^2 and not pi y^2??
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Because the disc is horizontal (see figure) and not vertical. Each disc at a y has an area of π x 2 and a thickness of δ y .
We can assume the 'egg' to be made of many infinitesimally small cylindrical discs of varying radii and thickness d y stacked on top on each other. Since the egg is symmetrical about the y − axis, the radii of each of the discs is the magnitude of abscissa at at a given point on the curve as shown in the 2-D representation above.
The infinitesimal volume d V can be expressed for each cylindrical disc as
d V = π x 2 d y
The required volume is the sum of all infinitesimally small volumes d V , i.e., the integral from y = 0 to y = 1 .
V = ∑ d V = ∑ π x 2 d y = ∫ 0 1 π [ 4 y ( 1 − y ) ( 2 − y ) 2 ] d y = 2 4 0 2 3 π = 0 . 3 0 1 0 6 9
I don't understand why one has to integrate between 0 to 1. Could you elaborate?
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In the equation if we put y=1 then the volume becomes zero therefore the maximum possible value of y is 1.
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What about 2
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@Abhishek Maurya – Only the 1st 2 roots are represented on the graph of the figure that was rotated about the y-axis. The graph would have to continue up y to where it crosses back over the y-axis to make that third root relevant to this problem.
If u will find the possible values of y for for which the x=0, u get y=0 and 1 for the given shape equation.
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Could you go in more details on this? I am fresh to this and I am not sure how those values are calculated. How do we know that for y=2 there is no volume?
Surely 2 is also a valid number to use. Finding zeros for the equn: y=0, y=1, y=2
Oh silly me. Sign diagram shows y is +ve only between 0 and 1. Just got lazy in my old age.
First of all, let's rewrite the problem in more standard notation for cylindrical polar coordinates: we have 4 r 2 = z ( 1 − z ) ( 2 − z ) 2 so r is real-valued between z = 0 and z = 1 .
Now, we can evaluate the volume as a triple integral. The volume element for cylindrical polar coordinates is r d r d z d ϕ . So our integral is
V = ∫ ϕ = 0 2 π ∫ z = 0 1 ∫ r ′ = 0 r ( z ) r ′ d r ′ d z d ϕ
The integrals in r and ϕ are straightforward, giving us V = π ∫ 0 1 r ( z ) 2 d z We can then use the given expression for r 2 to get an integral
V = 4 π ∫ z = 0 1 4 z − 8 z 2 + 5 z 3 − z 4 d z = 4 π [ 2 z 2 − 3 8 z 3 + 4 5 z 4 − 5 1 z 5 ] 0 1 = 4 π ⋅ 6 0 2 3 ≈ 0 . 3 0 1 0 6 9
r u sure after transforming into polar co-ordinates the functional attributes (signs, constants and sub-functions) will remain the same? so far i can remember abt transferring into polar co-ordinates.. it was a little bit more complex..
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I'm afraid I'm not really sure what you mean? We're not transforming x and y into polar coordinates in the x − y plane, we're finding the volume of revolution of the given curve. The x ( y ) curve expresses a cross-section, and I relabelled it to more conventional notation for polar coordinates.
Why is anyone is not taking 2
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If you mean why are we not taking 2 as an integration limit, x (here r ) only has a real value when y ≤ 1 (and also y ≥ 0 ). To see this, notice that on the positive y axis, y is of course always positive, and ( y − 2 ) 2 is a square of a real number and therefore also positive. ( y − 1 ) is positive below y = 1 , and negative above, so overall the expression for x 2 is negative when y > 1 .
I did your method. Very long. CSC and TM were sly to go quickly with the discs (cylindric method).
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True enough; in this case we can use our insight to skip over the integrals in r and phi, since we know the integral over a disc. I added this answer to point people towards the concept of triple integration and volume elements, which can be used in some situations we can't solve just by thinking about discs.
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Relevant wiki: Volume of Revolution - Disc Method - Easy
V = n → ∞ lim k = 1 ∑ n A k δ y = n → ∞ lim k = 1 ∑ n π x k 2 δ y = ∫ 0 1 π x 2 d y = ∫ 0 1 4 π y ( 1 − y ) ( 2 − y ) 2 d y = 4 π ∫ 0 1 ( 4 y − 8 y 2 + 5 y 3 − y 4 ) d y = 4 π [ 2 y 2 − 3 8 y 3 + 4 5 y 4 − 5 1 y 5 ] 0 1 = 4 π × 6 0 2 3 ≈ 0 . 3 0 1 See figure. Since 4 x 2 = y ( 1 − y ) ( 2 − y ) 2