Egg

Calculus Level 3

Below is the graph of the equation 4 x 2 = y ( 1 y ) ( 2 y ) 2 4x^2=y(1-y)(2-y)^2 rotated about the y y -axis.

Find the volume of the egg.


The answer is 0.301069.

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Relevant wiki: Volume of Revolution - Disc Method - Easy

V = lim n k = 1 n A k δ y See figure. = lim n k = 1 n π x k 2 δ y = 0 1 π x 2 d y Since 4 x 2 = y ( 1 y ) ( 2 y ) 2 = 0 1 π 4 y ( 1 y ) ( 2 y ) 2 d y = π 4 0 1 ( 4 y 8 y 2 + 5 y 3 y 4 ) d y = π 4 [ 2 y 2 8 3 y 3 + 5 4 y 4 1 5 y 5 ] 0 1 = π 4 × 23 60 0.301 \begin{aligned} V & = \lim_{n\to \infty} \sum_{k=1}^n A_k \delta y & \small \color{#3D99F6} \text{See figure.} \\ & = \lim_{n\to \infty} \sum_{k=1}^n \pi x_k^2 \delta y \\ & = \int_0^1 \pi x^2 dy & \small \color{#3D99F6} \text{Since }4x^2 = y(1-y)(2-y)^2 \\ & = \int_0^1 \frac \pi 4 y(1-y)(2-y)^2 dy \\ & = \frac \pi 4 \int_0^1 \left(4y-8y^2+5y^3-y^4\right) dy \\ & = \frac \pi 4 \bigg[2y^2 - \frac 83 y^3 + \frac 54 y^4 - \frac 15 y^5\bigg]_0^1 \\ & = \frac \pi 4 \times \frac {23}{60} \\ & \approx \boxed{0.301} \end{aligned}

I did the same thing but integrated between 0 to 2.... why it is wrong...

Adarsh Adi - 3 years, 3 months ago

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Note that 4 x 2 = y ( 1 y ) ( 2 y ) 2 4x^2=y(1-y)(2-y)^2 . When y > 1 y>1 , 1 y < 0 1-y < 0 and x x has no real value.

Chew-Seong Cheong - 3 years, 3 months ago

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Thanks sir

Adarsh Adi - 3 years, 3 months ago

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@Adarsh Adi strictly, there is a single point at (0,2) floating above the egg!. but it adds nothing to the volume!

Max Patrick - 3 years, 3 months ago

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@Max Patrick Yes, you are right. x = 0 x=0 is defined, when y = 2 y=2 .

Chew-Seong Cheong - 3 years, 3 months ago

same mistake here :(

Eliud Alejandro Maldonado Sanchez - 3 years, 3 months ago

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same mistake here

Dorian Sirju - 3 years, 3 months ago

There's a little failure in the figure. It had to be δy instead of δx. But I imagine it's hard to change now...

Pau Cantos - 3 years, 3 months ago

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Yes, I have to change it.

Chew-Seong Cheong - 3 years, 3 months ago

Done. Thanks again.

Chew-Seong Cheong - 3 years, 3 months ago

Egg height = 1 Egg radius = x in point f'(x) = 0 Its around 0.38, vol ~ 4/3 * pi * 1/2 * (0.38)^2 ~ 0.302

Andrey Varlamov - 3 years, 3 months ago

I just dont get where is the third cutting y axis point. It should be cut in three places (0,0), (0,1) and (0,2). Something stinks somehow with the graph.

Aleksandar Kovacevic - 3 years, 3 months ago

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Note that 4 x 2 = y ( 1 y ) ( 2 y ) 2 4x^2=y(1-y)(2-y)^2 . x x has no real value for y > 1 y > 1 except y = 2 y=2 , when x = 0 x=0 . The graph is an egg for 0 y 1 0 \le y \le 1 and a point (with no volume) at 0 , 2 0,2 .

Chew-Seong Cheong - 3 years, 3 months ago

Why is the area pi x^2 and not pi y^2??

erica phillips - 3 years, 3 months ago

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Because the disc is horizontal (see figure) and not vertical. Each disc at a y y has an area of π x 2 \pi x^2 and a thickness of δ y \delta y .

Chew-Seong Cheong - 3 years, 3 months ago

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Thanks sir!!

erica phillips - 3 years, 3 months ago
Tapas Mazumdar
Feb 5, 2018

We can assume the 'egg' to be made of many infinitesimally small cylindrical discs of varying radii and thickness d y dy stacked on top on each other. Since the egg is symmetrical about the y y- axis, the radii of each of the discs is the magnitude of abscissa at at a given point on the curve as shown in the 2-D representation above.

The infinitesimal volume d V dV can be expressed for each cylindrical disc as

d V = π x 2 d y dV = \pi x^2 dy

The required volume is the sum of all infinitesimally small volumes d V dV , i.e., the integral from y = 0 y=0 to y = 1 y=1 .

V = d V = π x 2 d y = 0 1 π [ y ( 1 y ) ( 2 y ) 2 4 ] d y = 23 π 240 = 0.301069 \begin{aligned} V &= \sum dV \\ &= \sum \pi x^2 dy \\ &= \int_0^1 \pi \left[ \dfrac{y(1-y)(2-y)^2}{4} \right] dy \\ &= \dfrac{23 \pi}{240} \\ &= \boxed{0.301069} \end{aligned}

I don't understand why one has to integrate between 0 to 1. Could you elaborate?

Valerio Schelbert - 3 years, 3 months ago

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In the equation if we put y=1 then the volume becomes zero therefore the maximum possible value of y is 1.

Hari m.s.p - 3 years, 3 months ago

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What about 2

Abhishek Maurya - 3 years, 3 months ago

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@Abhishek Maurya Only the 1st 2 roots are represented on the graph of the figure that was rotated about the y-axis. The graph would have to continue up y to where it crosses back over the y-axis to make that third root relevant to this problem.

Bob Jarvis - 3 years, 3 months ago

If u will find the possible values of y for for which the x=0, u get y=0 and 1 for the given shape equation.

Ashwini Kumar - 3 years, 3 months ago

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Could you go in more details on this? I am fresh to this and I am not sure how those values are calculated. How do we know that for y=2 there is no volume?

Karolina Jaworska - 3 years, 3 months ago

Surely 2 is also a valid number to use. Finding zeros for the equn: y=0, y=1, y=2

Ivan Treagus - 3 years, 3 months ago

Oh silly me. Sign diagram shows y is +ve only between 0 and 1. Just got lazy in my old age.

Ivan Treagus - 3 years, 3 months ago
Bryn Dickinson Staff
Feb 14, 2018

First of all, let's rewrite the problem in more standard notation for cylindrical polar coordinates: we have 4 r 2 = z ( 1 z ) ( 2 z ) 2 4r^2=z(1-z)(2-z)^2 so r r is real-valued between z = 0 z=0 and z = 1 z=1 .

Now, we can evaluate the volume as a triple integral. The volume element for cylindrical polar coordinates is r d r d z d ϕ r\mathrm{d}r \mathrm{d}z \mathrm{d} \phi . So our integral is

V = ϕ = 0 2 π z = 0 1 r = 0 r ( z ) r d r d z d ϕ V=\int_{\phi=0}^{2\pi}\int_{z=0}^1 \int_{r'=0}^{r(z)}r' \mathrm{d}r' \mathrm{d}z\mathrm{d}\phi

The integrals in r r and ϕ \phi are straightforward, giving us V = π 0 1 r ( z ) 2 d z V=\pi \int_0^1 r(z)^2 \mathrm{d}z We can then use the given expression for r 2 r^2 to get an integral

V = π 4 z = 0 1 4 z 8 z 2 + 5 z 3 z 4 d z = π 4 [ 2 z 2 8 3 z 3 + 5 4 z 4 1 5 z 5 ] 0 1 = π 4 23 60 0.301069 \begin{aligned}V&=\frac{\pi}{4} \int_{z=0}^1 4z-8z^2+5z^3-z^4\mathrm{d}z \\ &= \frac{\pi}{4}\left[2z^2-\frac{8}{3}z^3+\frac{5}{4}z^4 -\frac{1}{5}z^5\right]^1_0 \\ &=\frac{\pi}{4}\cdot\frac{23}{60}\approx 0.301069\end{aligned}

r u sure after transforming into polar co-ordinates the functional attributes (signs, constants and sub-functions) will remain the same? so far i can remember abt transferring into polar co-ordinates.. it was a little bit more complex..

Ananya Aaniya - 3 years, 3 months ago

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I'm afraid I'm not really sure what you mean? We're not transforming x x and y y into polar coordinates in the x y x-y plane, we're finding the volume of revolution of the given curve. The x ( y ) x(y) curve expresses a cross-section, and I relabelled it to more conventional notation for polar coordinates.

Bryn Dickinson Staff - 3 years, 3 months ago

Why is anyone is not taking 2

Abhishek Maurya - 3 years, 3 months ago

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If you mean why are we not taking 2 as an integration limit, x x (here r r ) only has a real value when y 1 y\le1 (and also y 0 y \ge 0 ). To see this, notice that on the positive y y axis, y y is of course always positive, and ( y 2 ) 2 (y-2)^2 is a square of a real number and therefore also positive. ( y 1 ) (y-1) is positive below y = 1 y=1 , and negative above, so overall the expression for x 2 x^2 is negative when y > 1 y>1 .

Bryn Dickinson Staff - 3 years, 3 months ago

I did your method. Very long. CSC and TM were sly to go quickly with the discs (cylindric method).

Leonblum Iznotded - 2 years, 10 months ago

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True enough; in this case we can use our insight to skip over the integrals in r and phi, since we know the integral over a disc. I added this answer to point people towards the concept of triple integration and volume elements, which can be used in some situations we can't solve just by thinking about discs.

Bryn Dickinson Staff - 2 years, 10 months ago

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