Elasticity

Consider 2 similar Rods of mass M M and length L L .Their cross-sectional area is A A and Young's Modulus is Y Y .They are in the following conditions.


R o d 1 : Rod - 1 : It is hinged at one end and is rotating in the horizontal plane with constant angular velocity ω \omega .

Its Elastic Potential Energy is U 1 = M 2 ω 4 L 3 a A Y {U}_{1} = \frac{M^2 \omega^4 L^3}{a A Y}

R o d 2 : Rod - 2 : It is hanging freely (through its one end) from ceiling

Its Elastic Potential Energy is U 2 = M 2 g 2 L b A Y {U}_{2} = \frac{M^2 g^2 L}{b A Y}

where a a & b b are positive integers


Enter your answer as a b \frac{a}{b}


This is a part of my set Aniket's Mechanics Challenges .


The answer is 2.5.

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solution by @Aniket Sanghi is perfectly fine, but i will just write how he got it in a bit detail , Take an element dx at a distance x from the axis. Tension at this part will provide centripetal force to the part right to it. since the mass density is constant , the mass to the right of it would be ρ \rho (l-x) and then when we apply the centrifugal for on the c.o.m of the left part , we get its co-ordinates as given in aniket's solution and then using the simple equation of young's modulus , for the first case we get answer as (8/15) 1/8 = 1/15 some other values and the second one is easier write similarly , you get the other as 1/2 1/3= 1/6 , when you divide , them you get 5/2 = 2.5 ! :)

Aniket Sanghi
Mar 19, 2016

a = 15 and b = 6

First case:

Let the axis to be at left end of rod

Take an element dx at a distance x from the axis. Tension at this part will provide centripetal force to the part right to it. T = M L ( L x ) ω 2 ( x + L x 2 ) \frac {M}{L} (L - x) \omega^2 (x + \frac {L - x}{2})

Now calculate U

d U = T 2 d x 2 A Y dU = \frac {T^2 dx}{2AY}

Can you tell how a=15 as for some reasons i am getting a =60

neelesh vij - 5 years, 2 months ago

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First find the tension in an element dx at a distance x from axis which is equal to the other part's centre of mass's centripetal force. T= M ( L 2 x 2 ) ( L^2 - x^2) w 2 w^2 /2LThen put it in the equation U = 0.5 T 2 T^2 dx/AY ....now did you get ?

Aniket Sanghi - 5 years, 2 months ago

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I did my taking an elemental mass at a distance x from hinged end now U = 1 2 × ( strain ) 2 × volume Y U = \dfrac 12 \times (\text{strain})^2 \times\dfrac {\text{volume}}{Y} .

Force on elemental mass is the centripetal force for the mass to the left to it.

d U = M 2 w 4 2 A Y L 2 × ( L x ) 2 x 2 d x dU = \dfrac{M^2 w^4}{2AYL^2} \times (L-x)^2x^2 dx

neelesh vij - 5 years, 2 months ago

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@Neelesh Vij Elaborate it ...You have done something wrong but I am not able to catch it

Aniket Sanghi - 5 years, 2 months ago

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@Aniket Sanghi Elaborate what part? finding d U dU ?

neelesh vij - 5 years, 2 months ago

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@Neelesh Vij Your tension first , is it coming same as mine........then yes ...finding dU part

Aniket Sanghi - 5 years, 2 months ago

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@Aniket Sanghi There you go-

As U = 1 2 × ( strain ) 2 × volume Y U = \dfrac 12 \times (\text{strain})^2 \times\dfrac {\text{volume}}{Y} .

d U = 1 2 Y × ( M x w 2 L A × ( L x ) ) 2 × A d x \Rightarrow dU = \dfrac {1}{2Y} \times \left( \dfrac{Mxw^2}{LA} \times (L-x) \right)^2 \times Adx

d U = M 2 w 4 2 Y A × ( x 4 . d x L 2 + x 2 . d x 2 x 3 . d x L ) \Rightarrow dU = \dfrac{M^2w^4}{2YA}\times \left(\dfrac{x^4.dx}{L^2} + x^2.dx - \dfrac{2x^3.dx}{L} \right)

On integrating and solving:

U = M 2 w 4 L 3 60 Y A U = \dfrac{M^2w^4L^3}{60YA}

@Aniket Sanghi

neelesh vij - 5 years, 2 months ago

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@Neelesh Vij Sorry to be late........... I can't understand how can you calculate strain first.......I learnt that you can calculate tension first

Aniket Sanghi - 5 years, 2 months ago

@Neelesh Vij I am uploading my solution

Aniket Sanghi - 5 years, 2 months ago

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@Aniket Sanghi That's the problem, i can't upload the image relevant to it so it might be a bit confusing.

I took a small element of length dx, at a length x from the end rotating, so force on particle is the force required by the part on the right to it of length (L-x) to do circular motion (centripetal force) so that is how i calculated strain

neelesh vij - 5 years, 2 months ago

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@Neelesh Vij Check up my solution

Aniket Sanghi - 5 years, 2 months ago

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@Aniket Sanghi Why did you take the part of rod on right of dx to rotate from its C.O.M?

neelesh vij - 5 years, 2 months ago

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@Neelesh Vij For left part ...There are two forces acting tension and force due to axis

Aniket Sanghi - 5 years, 2 months ago

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@Aniket Sanghi Can we first calculate the total extension in ROD 1 and the give answer as 1/2 kx^2

Sathyam Tripathi - 5 years, 2 months ago

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@Sathyam Tripathi I don't think that would work you may check it by cross verifying

Aniket Sanghi - 5 years, 2 months ago

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@Aniket Sanghi It didn't work. Can you tell why

Sathyam Tripathi - 5 years, 2 months ago

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@Sathyam Tripathi Which form of formula of U did you use

Aniket Sanghi - 5 years, 2 months ago

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@Aniket Sanghi 1/2 kx^2 where k =AY/L

Sathyam Tripathi - 5 years, 2 months ago

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@Sathyam Tripathi No you can't integrate first and find x first as energy is not uniform throughout, check my solution

Aniket Sanghi - 5 years, 2 months ago

@Aniket Sanghi @Aniket Sanghi You there bro?

neelesh vij - 5 years, 2 months ago

Ok i got my mistake, thanks !

neelesh vij - 5 years, 2 months ago

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