Equally Trapped

Geometry Level 2

Given a trapezoid, is it possible to choose a point in the interior that divides the trapezoid into 4 triangles with equal area by drawing segments from the point to the vertices?

Note : For this problem, consider a trapezoid to have exactly one pair of parallel sides.

Yes, always Yes, sometimes No, never

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Andy Hayes
Sep 12, 2017

Relevant wiki: Trapezoid

Suppose that it is possible. Start with a trapezoid, and let the parallel sides of the trapezoid have lengths b 1 b_1 and b 2 , b_2, and fix the height of the trapezoid at 1. 1. (If the point can be found for a trapezoid with height 1 , 1, then it can be found for any similar trapezoid.)

The area of the trapezoid is 1 2 ( b 1 + b 2 ) . \frac{1}{2}(b_1+b_2). This means that each of the triangles has area 1 8 ( b 1 + b 2 ) . \frac{1}{8}(b_1+b_2).

Let y y be the height of the triangle with base b 2 . b_2. This triangle has area 1 2 b 2 y . \frac{1}{2}b_2y. Now, the triangle with base b 1 b_1 has height 1 y . 1-y. The area of this triangle is 1 2 b 1 ( 1 y ) . \frac{1}{2}b_1(1-y). These two triangles have equal areas:

1 2 b 2 y = 1 2 b 1 ( 1 y ) y = b 1 b 1 + b 2 \begin{aligned} \frac{1}{2}b_2y &= \frac{1}{2}b_1(1-y) \\ y &= \frac{b_1}{b_1+b_2} \end{aligned}

So the area of each triangle can also be expressed as b 1 b 2 2 ( b 1 + b 2 ) . \frac{b_1b_2}{2(b_1+b_2)}. Now we have:

1 8 ( b 1 + b 2 ) = b 1 b 2 2 ( b 1 + b 2 ) ( b 1 + b 2 ) 2 = 4 b 1 b 2 b 1 2 2 b 1 b 2 + b 2 2 = 0 ( b 1 b 2 ) 2 = 0 b 1 = b 2 \begin{aligned} \frac{1}{8}(b_1+b_2) &= \frac{b_1b_2}{2(b_1+b_2)} \\ (b_1+b_2)^2 &= 4b_1b_2 \\ b_1^2-2b_1b_2+b_2^2 &= 0 \\ (b_1-b_2)^2 &= 0 \\ b_1 &= b_2 \end{aligned}

However, if the two bases are equal and parallel, then this causes the shape to become a parallelogram. This contradicts the assertion that the shape is a trapezoid. Therefore, it is not possible.

Moderator note:

There's been some discussion about the definition for the word trapezoid ; books (especially outside of the US) can still differ today about whether it refers to a quadrilateral with at least one pair of parallel sides or exactly one pair of parallel sides.

The former definition is used by those who want to say a parallelogram is a special type of trapezoid. There is some sense to this, since this is how definitions more specific than parallelogram work (a rhombus is a special type of parallelogram; a rectangle is a special type of parallelogram; a square is a special type of parallelogram, rhombus, and rectangle) but there's sense to the other method as well, since many problems that invoke trapezoids (like this one) need to exclude parallelograms from their statement.

Figure out where I went wrong. (I chose "Yes, always" because of this reasoning; I then figured out where my mistake is.)

Let the bases be b 1 , b 2 b_1, b_2 and take a line l l perpendicular from it. Let A , B A, B be the intersection of l l with b 1 b_1 and b 2 b_2 respectively, and T 1 , T 2 T_1, T_2 be the triangles with base b 1 b_1 and b 2 b_2 respectively. Let our point P P move from A A to B B . At the beginning, the area of T 1 T_1 is 0; at the end, the area of T 2 T_2 is 0. Since both areas change continuously, at some point they are equal; fix P 0 P_0 to be P P when this happens.

Now take a line m m parallel to b 1 b_1 (and b 2 b_2 ). Observe that along this line, T 1 T_1 and T 2 T_2 will always have equal areas. Suppose it intersects the other two sides, c 1 c_1 and c 2 c_2 , at C , D C, D respectively, and the triangles with base c 1 c_1 , c 2 c_2 are U 1 U_1 , U 2 U_2 respectively. Again, let P P move from C C to D D along m m . Like before, at the beginning U 1 U_1 has zero area and at the end U 2 U_2 has zero area, so at some point P 1 P_1 the two areas will be equal. This is our desired point.


Got the mistake? The mistake was T 1 T_1 and U 1 U_1 don't necessarily have the same area. You can prove that if it's a trapezoid, and so c 1 c_1 and c 2 c_2 are not parallel (as per the definition in the problem), then U 1 U_1 will have a larger area than T 1 T_1 . And moreover, the algorithm above in fact gives the only point where T 1 T_1 and T 2 T_2 have the same area, and U 1 U_1 and U 2 U_2 have the same area; thus since this point is not actually a valid point (because T 1 T_1 and U 1 U_1 have different areas), there is no such point.

Ivan Koswara - 3 years, 8 months ago

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Ivan, I did the same mistake with the same arguments... did me some good because I became more careful and able to answer correctly the other week problems (I'm new here and still a little dazzled... it's a very good site!). The last part of my corrected solution I did in atonement, was however a little different from yours. It's easy to find the line m m that gives us T 1 = T 2 T_1=T_2 . What I forgot was that every triangle finish there from the parallel bases has always the same area. So, it is not enough to find T 1 = T 2 T_1=T_2 , but T 1 + T 2 T_1+T_2 must be half of the area of trapezoid. When we establish that equation, we find that it only happens when b 1 = b 2 b_1=b_2 , but that means the other sides must be parallel too, in contradiction with the demand on the problem's note.

João Pedro Afonso - 3 years, 8 months ago

A square should also be a trapezoid, but with the given definition of "exactly one pair of parallel sides" that rules out the "yes, sometimes" - answer.

Georg Russ - 3 years, 8 months ago

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A square could be a trapezoid, but in our version, we have stated that we are not talking about such "trapezoids"

Agnishom Chattopadhyay - 3 years, 8 months ago

This note (present here on website) is not present in e-mail from Brilliant, so one (for example me) can solve the problem using text from e-mail and login only to select answer. Without this note answer is different.

Bartosz Kurlej - 3 years, 8 months ago

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@Calvin Lin Could you please look into this?

Agnishom Chattopadhyay - 3 years, 8 months ago

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I think this clarification was subsequently added to the problem, and therefore won't have been there yet when the email was sent.

Stewart Gordon - 3 years, 8 months ago

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@Stewart Gordon The problem originally had a similar note at the bottom that said, "A trapezoid has exactly one pair of parallel sides." Then I became aware of alternate definitions of a trapezoid and changed the wording to the current wording.

I believe the email that was sent out states, "Given a trapezoid with exactly one pair of parallel sides..."

Andy Hayes - 3 years, 8 months ago

Take the midpoint where the segments meet and the horizontal line (Midline) through it. The area sum of top and bottom triangle is half the area of the trapezium - so Midline must be half way between top and bottom. But then the areas of top and bottom triangle are different (or base = top and we have a parallelogram).

So no answer is possible. (but I got it wrong first time)

Robert Creamer - 3 years, 8 months ago

Very nice solution... A lot I can learn from :)

Utkarsh Kumar - 3 years, 9 months ago

Quite a surprise that this question is listed without any number of solvers (as of the beginning of the new week)! I'm the second before you! Cheers! :D

Nice solution! :)

Michael Huang - 3 years, 8 months ago

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And I only guessed a (wrong) answer so I could see other folk's answers!! And jolly interesting this was, too.

PS In the UK, and many other countries, that's a trapezium (isoscoles if you can extend the non-parallel side to form an isosceles triangle - non-isoscoles or scalene otherwise) A trapezoid is an irregular quadrilateral with no parallel sides. I always tell my students to avoid 'trapezoid' - but, having looked this up, perhaps I should be telling them to avoid 'trapezium' as well - augh!

Katherine barker - 3 years, 8 months ago

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Trapezium, trapezoid. Two different words of the same meanings.

I believe that comes up a lot, even when I asked one of the physic questions that involve trapezoid . One reported that, thinking that the definition is extended (as you mentioned).

Perhaps, the author should provide the definition of the trapezoid; otherwise, it wouldn't matter.

Michael Huang - 3 years, 8 months ago

Does definition of parallelogram includes trapezoid? It means a parallelogram is always a trapezoid and a trapezoid is not always a parallelogram. So, i thought it sometimes possible to shape, but the answer was wrong : (

서영 이 - 3 years, 8 months ago

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A parallelogram is sometimes considered to be a type of trapezoid. I included an assumption below the diagram that the trapezoid has only one pair of parallel sides, but I will clarify the assumption further.

Andrew Hayes Staff - 3 years, 8 months ago

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Thanks for your kind explanation : ) I knew your intention, I just wanted to make it clear Ps, I love this app!! But there are some points to be fixed 1. There is no hide button on commenting to others only post is available 2. In main meun, the quiz posting only shows recent one. its condition is different from quiz process in stat and it sholud be departed from stat. 3. There is no erase function to my comments 4. I hope this app has more communications with users, a board for errors and what we want to learn should linked with developers.

서영 이 - 3 years, 8 months ago

I think you're supposed to use trapezium for at least one parallel side, and trapezoid, strictly speaking, excludes the both sides parallel condition, like rhombus and rhomboid

Madhur Agrawal - 3 years, 8 months ago

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In which variety of English? This makes a big difference. Here in Britain, a trapezium is a quadrilateral with one pair of parallel sides, and a trapezoid is a quadrilateral with no parallel sides (though the term is rarely, if ever, actually used nowadays). The Collins online dictionary gives it as "two parallel sides of unequal length", but most others say "two parallel sides" or "one pair of parallel sides" and leave ambiguous whether it means only one pair. So I guess this aspect is just a matter of debate.

Stewart Gordon - 3 years, 8 months ago

I'm on the "side" of thinking that a square is a special type of rectangle, and so on... So, I think that in a case like this, the author should be forced some way to explicitly write an stament like "To this problem, a trapezoid has exactly 2 parallel sides". The very name of trapezoid is not precisce enough. Trapez-oid=Like a Trapezium. But, what do you mean with "like"? The same goes to people/books saying rhomboid(=sth "like" a rhombus) where they should use parallelogram.

Jose Torres Zapata - 3 years, 8 months ago

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That's the trouble - in the names of geometric figures, 'oid' doesn't have a consistent meaning. For instance, a cuboid is like a cube but with arbitrary rectangular rather than square faces, but an ellipsoid is a 3D figure whose cross-sections are ellipses. To add to the confusion, a spheroid is a special case of an ellipsoid, in which an axis of revolution exists. And for the record, I understand rhomboid to mean a polyhedron whose six faces are congruent rhombi.

Stewart Gordon - 3 years, 8 months ago

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That was my point. Nevertheless, it seems that a remark has been added, emphasizing that exactly 2 sides are parallel.

Jose Torres Zapata - 3 years, 8 months ago
Ricardo Bartletto
Sep 19, 2017

Relevant wiki: Area Of Triangle

Label the trapezoid ABCD so that BC and AD are the parallel sides and BC<AD Let the inside point be P and the vertical height of the trapezoid be h.

Let the length of BC be a

AD is some multiple of BC so AD=Ka

The only way triangles BCP and ADP can have the same area is if

vertical height of triangle BCP=Kh/(K+1)

So area of triangle BCP= area of triangle ADP

= aKh/2(k+1)

Now area of trapezoid = a(K+1)h/2

One quarter of this area = a(K+1)h/8

So the question is now can

aKh/2(K+1) = a(K+1)h/8

This simplifies to the quadratic equation

K^2-2K+1 = 0

Solution is K = 1

So the areas can only be equal if K=1

ie if BC = AD

so the shape is a parallelogram and not a trapezoid

So it can never be true

A correction, The quadratic equations simplified comes to K^2-2K+1=0 with only one solution ,,ie K=1 only

Raja Srinivas - 3 years, 8 months ago

Oops! Thanks for spotting that

Ricardo Bartletto - 3 years, 8 months ago

Have corrected it now

Ricardo Bartletto - 3 years, 8 months ago

Tremendous!

Joseph McGrath - 3 years, 8 months ago
Alex Alex
Sep 20, 2017

There may be a very complicated and accurate way to find the answer, but there is a simpler way. The question says that there is only one pair of parallel sides. If there is only one pair, how could four equal triangle result from splitting the trapezoid

For this problem, the triangles don't necessarily have to be congruent (equal sides and equal angles). They only need to have equal areas . In the case of a trapezoid, it's possible that some of the triangles have equal areas but different shapes. But then, it isn't possible for all four triangles to have equal areas.

Andy Hayes - 3 years, 8 months ago

Let ABCD be the trapezoid and let AB, CD be the pair of parallel edges, and let M be this supposed midpoint.

If the triangles ABM and CDM are to have equal area, then M may be any point on a particular line parallel to both AB and CD and which is closer to the longer of the two (the exact ratio is irrelevant)

Now consider the shape ABMD. If this is a quadrilateral then it must be a parallelogram if ABM and AMD are to have equal areas. This is not allowed as CDM would then have no area.

Then it must be a triangle and the same will apply for ABCM. Therefore M must be the point of intersection of the diagonals AC and BD.

But then ABM and CDM are then similar, and if they are to have equal areas then they must be congruent. Therefore AB must be equal to CD which is not allowed if ABCD is to be a trapezoid.

Syrous Marivani
Sep 21, 2017

Let the upper and lower sides and altitude of the trapezoid be a, b, and h. AlsoLet the altitudes of upper and lower triangle be h 1 h_1 , and h 2 h_2 . Therefore, a h 1 h_1 /2 = b h 2 h_2 /2= (a + b)h/8, 4a h 1 h_1 = 4b h 2 h_2 = (a + b)h, h 1 h_1 + h 2 h_2 = h, h 1 h_1 = h – h 2 h_2 , so -4a h 2 h_2 + 4ah = (a + b)h, so h 2 h_2 = (3a – b)h/(4a) = (a + b)h/(4b). Then 3ab – b 2 b^2 = a 2 a^2 + ab, or a 2 a^2 – 2ab + b 2 b^2 = 0, or ( a b ) 2 (a - b)^2 = 0. Therefore a = b, whichis impossible for a trapezoid.

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