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Algebra Level 4

4 y 2 22 y + 25 = 0 , ( 2 y 3 ) 3 + 1 ( 2 y 3 ) 3 = ? \large 4y^2-22y+25=0 , \\(2y-3)^3+\frac1 {(2y-3)^3} = \ ?


The answer is 110.

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7 solutions

Chew-Seong Cheong
Aug 19, 2015

Let x = 2 y 3 x = 2y-3 . We note that:

4 y 2 22 y + 25 = 0 4 y 2 12 y + 9 10 y + 16 = 0 ( 2 y 3 ) 2 5 ( 2 y 3 ) + 1 = 0 x 2 5 x + 1 = 0 x + 1 x = 5 \begin{aligned} 4y^2-22y + 25 & = 0 \\ 4y^2-12y + 9 - 10 y + 16 & = 0 \\ (2y-3)^2 - 5(2y-3) + 1 & = 0 \\ \Rightarrow x^2 - 5x + 1 & = 0 \\ x + \frac{1}{x} & = 5 \end{aligned}

Now, we have:

( 2 y 3 ) 3 + 1 ( 2 y 3 ) 3 = x 3 + 1 x 3 = ( x + 1 x ) ( x 2 + 1 x 2 1 ) = ( x + 1 x ) ( [ x + 1 x ] 2 2 1 ) = 5 ( 5 2 3 ) = 110 \begin{aligned} (2y-3)^3 + \frac{1}{(2y-3)^3} & = x^3 + \frac{1}{x^3} \\ & = \left(x + \frac{1}{x}\right) \left(x^2 + \frac{1}{x^2} - 1 \right) \\ & = \left(x + \frac{1}{x}\right) \left( \left[x + \frac{1}{x} \right]^2 - 2 - 1\right) \\ & = 5 (5^2 - 3) \\ & = \boxed{110} \end{aligned}

Sir can you tell us how to get to know what to split ,

I mean splitting 22y into -12 y - 10 y .

Is there a way to think or any hints etc, if similar algebraic problem raised in future.

Syed Baqir - 5 years, 9 months ago

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It is clearly shown in the second equation that ( 2 y 2 ) (2y-2) is an important factor. We just need to manipulate the first equation to fit.

Chew-Seong Cheong - 5 years, 9 months ago

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Thank you .

Syed Baqir - 5 years, 9 months ago

Typoe. ( 2 y 3 ) (2y-\color{#D61F06}{3}) .

Niranjan Khanderia - 3 years, 4 months ago

It is just 12th class algebra.

Virupakshappa Nyamati - 5 years, 9 months ago

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lol, I did this question with Quadratic formula.

Syed Baqir - 5 years, 9 months ago

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@Syed Baqir That is nice.

Virupakshappa Nyamati - 5 years, 9 months ago

Beautifull. Nice simple solution,

Niranjan Khanderia - 3 years, 4 months ago
Rohit Ner
Aug 20, 2015

4 y 2 22 y + 25 = 0 4 y 2 12 y + 10 = 10 y 15 ( 2 y 3 ) 3 + 1 ( 2 y 3 ) 3 = ( 2 y 3 + 1 2 y 3 ) 3 3 ( 2 y 3 + 1 2 y 3 ) = ( ( 2 y 3 ) 2 + 1 2 y 3 ) 3 3 ( ( 2 y 3 ) 2 + 1 2 y 3 ) = ( 4 y 2 12 y + 10 2 y 3 ) 3 3 ( 4 y 2 12 y + 10 2 y 3 ) = ( 10 y 15 2 y 3 ) 3 3 ( 10 y 15 2 y 3 ) = 5 3 3.5 = 110 \begin{aligned} 4{y}^2-22y+25&=0\\4{y}^2-12y+10&=10y-15\\(2y-3)^3+\frac1 {(2y-3)^3}&={\left(2y-3+\frac{1}{2y-3}\right)}^3-3\left(2y-3+\frac{1}{2y-3}\right)\\&={\left(\frac{{(2y-3)}^2+1}{2y-3}\right)}^3-3\left(\frac{{(2y-3)}^2+1}{2y-3}\right)\\&={\left(\frac{4{y}^2-12y+10}{2y-3}\right)}^3-3\left(\frac{4{y}^2-12y+10}{2y-3}\right)\\&={\left(\frac{10y-15}{2y-3}\right)}^3-3\left(\frac{10y-15}{2y-3}\right)\\&=5^3-3.5\\&\Huge\color{#3D99F6}{=\boxed{110}} \end{aligned}

Great Rohit

Asha Shankar - 5 years, 9 months ago

Beautifull. Nice simple solution,

Niranjan Khanderia - 2 years ago
Caleb Koch
Aug 29, 2015

If 4 y 2 22 y + 25 = 0 4y^2-22y+25=0 then, using the quadratic formula, y = 1 4 ( 11 ± 21 ) y=\frac{1}{4}(11\pm\sqrt{21}) . Substitute y = 1 4 ( 11 + 21 ) y=\frac{1}{4}(11+\sqrt{21}) into the second expression and arrive at 55 + 12 21 + 55 12 21 55+12\sqrt{21}+55-12\sqrt{21} which equals 110 110 .

right, which means this could also equal 125. Unless I'm horribly mistaken, this was a horrible question, they imply that a second degree quadratic has only one solution. Obviously a parabola has 2 roots not one.

Ze Evv - 5 years, 9 months ago

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When you substitute y = 1 4 ( 11 21 ) y=\frac{1}{4}(11-\sqrt{21}) into the expression, you still get 110.

Caleb Koch - 5 years, 9 months ago

A lot of calculations. Its tedious and needs patience. Good Job

Asha Shankar - 5 years, 9 months ago

Using 4 y 2 22 y + 25 = 0 4y^2 - 22y + 25 = 0 , I simplified the second expression into 48 y 77 + 1 / ( 48 y 77 ) 48y - 77 + 1/(48y-77) . This made it easier for me to substitute in ( 11 ± s q r t ( 21 ) ) / 4 (11 \pm sqrt(21))/4 .

Ken Gene Quah - 4 years, 11 months ago
Joe Potillor
Oct 7, 2016

I did this solution the painful way, here is my solution

Syed Baqir
Aug 30, 2015

4y^{ 2 }-22y+25=0,\ y=\frac { -(-22)\pm \sqrt { (-22)^{ 2 }-\quad 4(4)(25) } }{ 2(4) } \Longrightarrow \frac { 11\pm \sqrt { 21 } }{ 4 } \ Substituting\quad into\quad equation\quad gives\quad answer\quad :\quad \boxed { 110 }

Dustin Hazzard
Aug 29, 2015

I did things the hard way. I inserted y values in smaller and smaller increments until my answers came close to zero. Ending up getting close when inserting the y value of y = 1.605 into the second problem. I guessed the answer from there until I got 110 on my last guess.

Ze Evv
Aug 29, 2015

The answer is also 125. The parabola has 2 roots! quadratic equation: [22+/-sqrt(484-400)]/8=> y=1.60 and y=3.89. Since neither of the roots make the second equation undefined, there are two answers: (2y-3)^3+1/(2y-3)^3=> 110 when y=1.60 & 125 when y=3.89.

(2 * 3,895643923738960001647011798432 - 3) ^ 3 + 1 / ((2 * 3,895643923738960001647011798432 - 3) ^ 3 ) = 109,99090833947008007905656632474 + 1/109,99090833947008007905656632474 = 110

So, you are horribly mistaken. With both roots we get 110, but there is some smarter way to solve like Chew-Seong Cheong show us.

José Marcos Leite - 5 years, 9 months ago

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