3 x + 4 x = 5 x
Find the sum of all possible positive integers x so that the equation is true.
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I will 100% agree that x=2 solves this equation. However, the question asked was NOT what value of x solves the equation, but what the sum of the values of x is. "What is the sum of value(s) of the natural number such that the equation above is true?" X does in fact equal 2, but the sum of all three values of x would be 6. Therefore the answer to this problem would be in fact 6.
3^2+4^2=5^2
2+2+2=6
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I agree that William Adams.The Sum of values of x is 6.
Ya I too agree with u
Agree with you
I disagree. x is the exponent for all three. The question asks for the sum of all possible values of x that satisfy the equation. That is 2. They were correct before, question is fine.
"...the sum of all POSSIBLE positive integers x..." There is only one POSSIBLE value: 2. 2 is the correct answer.
I though it was 6. It's obvious that x=2, anyone who knows the trials and tribulations of Fermat's last theorem knows that, and 2+2+2=6.
It's a very badly worded question is they think they answer is 2...
how I write answer here
3/5 is .6 but you wrote .8 how it is possible
We know that this is a Pythagorean Triple; thus, intuitively, it is easy to see that x = 2 . But, that doesn't constitute a ``proof" of this. Hence, we can exploit what we know about the above equation to confirm that there is no solution other than 2.
Let us insert the known solution, x = 2 :
5 2 + x = 4 2 + x + 3 2 + x
5 2 ⋅ 5 x = ( 4 2 ⋅ 4 x ) + ( 3 2 ⋅ 3 x )
Dividing both sides by 5 x , we obtain:
5 2 = 4 2 ⋅ ( 5 4 ) x + 3 2 ⋅ ( 5 3 ) x
Now, if x = 0 , the equality holds. But, if we allow x to increase, then the value of both summands on the right-hand-side will decrease below their squares, no longer holding. The same applies for decreasing x ; both summands increase above their squares. Thus, x must be zero in this case, leading to the conclusion that the solution is x = 2 . QED
Love this proof. Very well done and explained perfectly.
if you let x = 0 the answer will become 0 not 2
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Umm, nope. If x = 0, the (4/5)^x and (3/5)^x terms go to 1, meaning they vanish. Otherwise, the terms on the right side do not add to 5^2. So I'm not saying that x = 0 is a solution (which it isn't), I'm using this to prove that 2 is the only solution. Notice I say in the beginning "let us insert the known solution..." Thus x is simply an analog for proving that this equality cannot hold with any other exponent than 2. Perhaps my wording wasn't clear enough, but I hope this clarifies it for you.
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Natural numbers: 0, 1, 2.
Problem: 3^x + 4^x = 5^x
in basic algebra we see that solving for x means that 3 + 4 = 7, meaning it's 7^x = 5^x which can only be true if x = 0. And since 0 is a natural number, it's a valid answer.
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@William Anderson – You learn in US 7\8th( im not sure which) grade that zero is NOT NATURAL NUMBER! Just saying
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@Eva Donlon – Zero is not a natural number. Natural numbers are also called counting numbers. 1, 2, 3, ... ZERO IS A WHOLE NUMBER
@William Anderson – 0 is a whole number, natural numbers starts from 1.
@William Anderson – Well, it's wrong to generalize that 3 x + 4 x = 7 x , because it only holds if x = 1 .
You're indeed correct that x = 0 is a natural number solution (not in this problem, but 0 is a ntural number), but
3 0 + 4 0 = 5 0 , because 1 + 1 = 1 .
What I was explaining is that x is an analog to show that 2 is the only natural solution. So x = 0 was not the solution, but was rather a tool to show that the equality could not hold otherwise. The x was being ``added" to the 2 in the exponent, and when x = 0 , the equality held. Otherwise, no.
Of x will b zero then. . .and will nt zero my bro. . .there will b no solution . . .bcz power zero stands for 1 nt zero
This question can be solved in two ways :-
The real method i.e Fermat's Last Theorem that any 3 numbers which are related as a x + b x = c x , x can be only 1 or 2 (i.e not greater than 2)
The side-kick method (the silly method btw) is the Pythagoras theorem. If you are a fan of Pythagoras theorem questions , you will immediately recognize the value of x , as it is common in many questions :D .
You must give the Fermat's Last Principle
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Why would he? You would probably get bored to death 😂😂😹🤣😂☺️😂😹😂😜😂😉
Correct and going back to simple 1st year(13 year old) maths, 0 is not a natural number for those of you who suggested it.
Very bakwaas solution
Fermat's Last Theorem states that no three positive integers a , b , and c can satisfy the equation a n + b n = c n for any integer value of n greater than 2 .
Divide both sides by 5^x
Then the given equation can be written as
(0.6)^x + (0.8)^x = 1 ................... ( 1 )
x = 2 satisfies the given equation
i . e
(0.6)^2 + (0.8)^2 = 1
Let x be greater than 2
Then
(0.6)^x will be less than (0.6)^2 ...........(because 0.6 is a proper fraction)
also
(0.8)^x will be less than (0.8)^2............(because 0.8 is a proper fraction)
Then
(0.6)^x + (0.8)^x <(0.6)^2 + (0.8)^2
i . e
(0.6)^x + (0.8)^x < 1
which contradicts equation ( 1 )
So the given equation cannot be satisfied for x greater than 2 ...... ( I )
Now, let x be less than 2
Then
(0.6)^x will be greater than (0.6)^2 ...........(because 0.6 is a proper fraction)
Also
(0.8)^x will be greater than (0.8)^2............(because 0.8 is a proper fraction)
Then
(0.6)^x + (0.8)^x >(0.6)^2 + (0.8)^2
i . e
(0.6)^x + (0.8)^x > 1
which contradicts equation ( 1 )
So the given equation cannot be satisfied for x less than 2 ...... ( II )
From ( I ), ( II ) we get :
The solution set of the given equation is { 2 }
One of the better proofs here.
Solution is attached in the form of image
This solution has been marked wrong because it has only shown that x = 2 is a root and failed to show that it has no solution for x ≥ 3 .
How do you post picture solutions?
Fermat's theorem would solve your problem
Actually it can't be solved... Cause...if x belong to natural number...this equation should be true for any natural number...but it isn't...
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that's not necessary. x-2=0 is a perfectly valid equation with x=2 as the solution, furthermore, 2 is the only natural number that can satisfy x-2=0.
The wording of this question is confusing: the "sum of values of x"
Try substituting x with 2&3. Simple logic will tell us the answer
It's simple Pythagoras Maths, probably the most famous example of his work with triangles, the 3,4 and 5 Triangle. The answer is 2 as when you square 3 and 4 you get 9 and 16. When added together, the answer is 25, which is 5 squared (to the power of 2),
Because of Fermat's Last Theorem, 2 is the only available answer.
By using fermat's last theorem X^n+y^n=z^n We can solve it So 3^2+4^2=5^2 So ans:2
Simple. Start assuming the values of x. Start with 2, 3²+4²=5² i.e- 9+16 which equals to 25 i.e 5². After assuming some more values you'll soon realise that 2 is the lone number that satisfies the given equation.
Because 5^x increases at an exponentially greater rate than 3^x or 4^x, we can plainly see that the only number that satisfies the equation is x=2. And for those of you saying it's 6, the question asks for the sum of all possible values of x, not sum of substitutions. Because the only possible value of x is 2, the sum is therefore the same.
Fermat's theorem. x must de 2.
This appears to be one of the Pythagorean Triads if you look at the diagram.
This is Fermat's unsolved theorem, which has now been proven in a very complex mathematical paper. So while I know x=2 solves it, I also know no other values solve this.
How about -∞ as a solution for x??
The question asked for the sum of all the x's. Since x=2, sum should be 6. The answer to the question is 6 not 2
you asked for natural number... 0 is not a natural number :P
Take logs of everthing the simplify down so that x=(log(5))/(log(12))=1.943056387. So really the answer the author has put down is incorrect. But for arguments sake x=2
By substituting different values to satisfy the equation,we get answer
Fermat's last theorem can be used here It would have integral values only for x lesser than or equal to 2 . Checking all the values that are 0 , 1 , 2 , we see that x = 2 is the only solution . Therefore sum of all value(s) is 2
Is the Pitagorean theorem
3^2=9, 4^2=16, 9+16=25, Here x is replaced by 2, So, the value of X=2 .
3, 4 and 5 are pythagorean triplets,,,, H sq= P sq + B sq 5 tp 2= 3 tp2 + 4 tp2
It is a well known pythagorean triplet hence one answer is surely 2 while we know by Fermat's Theorem other natural values don't satisfy.......
Hope i'm right
Basically, we see the Pythagorean triple, 3-4-5, so 2 is indeed an answer. But, according to Fermat's Last Theorem, there are no solutions to x^n +y^n=z^n for n >2, so there are no more solutions
Simple, Pythagoras theorem. A^2+b^2=c^2
Given that 3 x + 4 x = 5 x ( 3 / 5 ) x + ( 4 / 5 ) x = 1 ( 0 . 6 ) x + ( 0 . 8 ) x = 1 ( 1 − 0 . 4 ) x + ( 1 − 0 . 2 ) x = 1 1 − 0 . 4 x + 1 − 0 . 2 x = 1 2 − 0 . 6 x = 1 1 = 0 . 6 x x = 1 . 6 7 This means that value of x should be near to 1.67 and rounding, it we get 2. Also as @Harsh Kumar said to confirm our answer the best way is Pythagorean theorem
This solution has been marked wrong because ( 1 + a ) b = 1 + a b is not an algebraic identity.
it's false (1 - 0.4)^x + (1 - 0.2)^x = 1 - 0.4x + 1 - 0.2x
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Divide both sides by 5 x ( 5 3 ) x + ( 5 4 ) x = 1
We see that x = 2 is satisfying this equation, but since the left hand side has both fractions possessing larger denominator (Proper fractions) , we know that for all values of x greater than 2 the solution will never be 1. (Since it is a decreasing fraction)
Thus x=2 is the only solution.
If fractions don't seem clear enough, we can visualize it using decimals
0 . 8 x + 0 . 6 x = 1 Since only 0 . 6 4 + 0 . 3 6 = 1 . 0 0 satisfy this equation, it is safe to say 2 is the only solution