Exponential size

Algebra Level 1

If ( 1 2 ) x > ( 1 2 ) y , \big(\frac{1}{2}\big)^x > \big(\frac{1}{2}\big)^y, which of the following must be true about x x and y ? y?

x > y x > y y > x y > x x = y x = y None of the above

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6 solutions

Mohammad Khaza
Jun 30, 2017

between 0-1, if we give power in any number it will decrease.

so, easily ,0.5 * 0.5 = 0.25.

0.25 < 0.5.

Thus, adding powers to 0.5 makes it smaller.

Thanks very helpful

Sabrina Daniel - 4 months, 1 week ago
Mark Recio
Sep 26, 2016

=> 1 2 x > 1 2 y \dfrac{1}{2^{x}} > \dfrac{1}{2^{y}} => 2 y > 2 x 2^{y} > 2^{x} => y > x y > x

Why does 2 y > 2 x 2^y > 2^x imply that y > x y > x ?

Jesse Nieminen - 4 years, 2 months ago

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It's logic

Razzi Masroor - 4 years, 2 months ago

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It seems trivial, but can you give a rigorous proof?

Jesse Nieminen - 4 years, 2 months ago

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@Jesse Nieminen Take log on both sides give,

ylog2>xlog2

log2 get cancelled

Therefore, y>x

genis dude - 4 years, 1 month ago

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@Genis Dude Why is taking logarithms justified? Why does it preserve the inequality as it is?

For example, multiplying both sides of the inequality by 1 -1 flips the inequality other way around.

Jesse Nieminen - 4 years, 1 month ago

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@Jesse Nieminen If u multiply by negative number for example -1 , we will get log(-1) which is not defined.So we cannot cancel it

genis dude - 4 years, 1 month ago

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@Genis Dude Yes, but that does not explain why taking logarithms is justified.

Jesse Nieminen - 4 years, 1 month ago

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@Jesse Nieminen We took log so that we will get the inequality btw x and y

genis dude - 4 years, 1 month ago

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@Genis Dude But why can we take logarithm of both side of the inequality and keep the inequality as it is?

Why does a > b a > b imply that log 2 a > log 2 b \log_2 a > \log_2 b ?

Jesse Nieminen - 4 years, 1 month ago

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@Jesse Nieminen I did not said logx(base 2).I said xlog2<ylog2 Log2 is a constant value(0.301) So it get cancelled

genis dude - 4 years, 1 month ago

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@Genis Dude Don't refer me to a wiki. Yes, x log 2 < y log 2 x < y x \log 2 < y \log 2 \implies x < y is true, when the base of the logarithm is greater than 1 1 , but why is log 2 x < log 2 y x log 2 < y log 2 \log 2^x < \log 2^y \implies x \log 2 < y \log 2 true, when the base is greater than 1 1 ?

Give me a proof that taking logarithm (of base greater than one) of both sides of an inequality is allowed. Hint: Logaritmic functions (with base greater than 1 1 ) are strictly increasing functions.

Jesse Nieminen - 4 years, 1 month ago

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@Jesse Nieminen log2^x=log(2 2 2. .. .)till x times log2+ log2+log2..... (till x times) xlog2

genis dude - 4 years, 1 month ago

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@Genis Dude What is x x is not an integer?

Jesse Nieminen - 4 years, 1 month ago

@Jesse Nieminen Also taking log doesn't change the inequality

genis dude - 4 years, 1 month ago

@Jesse Nieminen https://brilliant.org/wiki/logarithmic-inequalities/

genis dude - 4 years, 1 month ago

Also, I have a counterexample for you, ( 1 ) 2 > ( 1 ) 3 \left(-1\right)^2 > \left(-1\right)^3 is true, but 2 > 3 2 > 3 is false.

Jesse Nieminen - 4 years, 1 month ago

Define F ( a ) = x a F(a)=x^a for 0 < x < 1 0<x<1 , then F ( a ) = x a ln x < 0 F'(a)=x^a \ln x<0 which is obvious since 0 < x < 1 0<x<1 . So F F is decreasing and thus if ( 1 2 ) x > ( 1 2 ) y \left(\dfrac{1}{2}\right)^x \gt \left(\dfrac{1}{2}\right)^y which implies x < y x<y .

Robert DeLisle
Dec 24, 2017

if y > x then y = x + z and z > 0.

0 < ( 1 / 2 ) z < 1 0 < (1/2)^z < 1 for z > 0. z > 0.

( 1 / 2 ) y = ( 1 / 2 ) x + z = ( 1 / 2 ) x ( 1 / 2 ) z (1/2)^y = (1/2) ^{x + z} = (1/2)^x(1/2)^z

It follows that ( 1 / 2 ) x > ( 1 / 2 ) x ( 1 / 2 ) z = ( 1 / 2 ) y (1/2)^x > (1/2)^x(1/2)^z = (1/2)^y

Bleep BooBeep
Mar 26, 2017

0.5 * 0.5 = 0.25. 0.25 < 0.5. Thus, adding powers to 0.5 makes it smaller.

Sutapa Saha
Mar 10, 2017

Guys it is simple 2^(-x)>2^(-y) -x>-y x<y(from inequalities) Hope it helps

Why does 2 x > 2 y 2^{-x}>2^{-y} imply that x > y -x>-y ?

Jesse Nieminen - 4 years, 2 months ago

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It's logic

Razzi Masroor - 4 years, 2 months ago

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It seems trivial, but can you give a rigorous proof?

Jesse Nieminen - 4 years, 2 months ago

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