Fancy Parties

A and E each have 3 friends, whereas B, C, and D each have 2 friends. A and E each have 3 friends, whereas B, C, and D each have 2 friends.

In a party with 5 people, it is possible that 2 people have 3 friends and 3 people have 2 friends, as shown in the graph to the right.

In a party with 5 people, is it possible that there are 3 people with 3 friends and 2 people with 2 friends?

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20 solutions

Marta Reece
Dec 17, 2017

For every friendship there have to be two people, one on each end of the relationship, who are being friends.

So the sum of all the "friends" of all the people has to be even.

3 × 3 + 2 × 2 = 13 3\times3+2\times2=13

Since 13 is odd, it may not be an answer, so such situation is impossible.

I do not understand your explanation starting where it says ' ...sum of all the "friends"... has to be even' and afterwards.

A Former Brilliant Member - 3 years, 5 months ago

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If there is a friendship, there are two people who are being friends. So if there are, say, three friendships, that means if you count for each person all of his/her friends, you end up with an even number.

Marta Reece - 3 years, 5 months ago

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Then how did you come up with formula 3 x 2 + 2 x 2 ?

A Former Brilliant Member - 3 years, 5 months ago

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@A Former Brilliant Member 3 people with 3 friends and 2 people with 2 friends

3 people with 3 friends -> 3 * 3

2 people with 2 friends -> 2 * 2

All together -> 3 * 3 + 2 * 2

Jason Dyer Staff - 3 years, 5 months ago

This is why the language of mathematics was invented. What's meant here is "the sum of the degrees of a graph has to be even because it equals twice the number of edges of a graph."

Richard Desper - 3 years, 5 months ago

3 x 2 + 2 x 2 = 10 bruh

Noverdy Ramadhan - 3 years, 5 months ago

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The problem wants the three people to have 3 friends each (3x3) not 2 each (3x2).

Jason Dyer Staff - 3 years, 5 months ago

Couldn’t a pair of people be friends with each other whilst a group of three are friends also all friends ? 3x2+2x2

Brady Yoder - 3 years, 5 months ago

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The first mistake in your thinking is the confusion coming from the statement a pair of people being friends with eachother.

You are asked for a scenario with 3 people having 3 friends and 2 having 2 (total 5 people).

When you say a pair of people being friends you are either redding to one friendship (A to B) or a group of four each having four each having two friends (A to C and D only, and B to C and D only)

Neither satisfies the question

Kai Blankenhorn - 3 years, 5 months ago

In your scenario, there is indeed a group of 3 friends and a group of 2 friends. However, in the group of 3, each person only has 2 friends each, and the group of 2 is just a simple friendship where each person has one friend. If you think about this backward, this is similar to how if you have two siblings, your parents have 3 kids overall, and if you have one sibling your parents have 2 kids overall (including you).

Daniel Baton - 3 years, 5 months ago

it doesn't matter

tommy LZ - 3 years, 5 months ago

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Serenity Eden - 3 years, 5 months ago

3×3 is 9 + 2 is 11 × 22 is 22 22 is an even number yes is the answer

Unnati Sawant - 3 years, 5 months ago

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Gaurav Mukherjee - 3 years, 4 months ago

I agree with you

陆 光华 - 3 years, 5 months ago

Although I can't even understand this problem

陆 光华 - 3 years, 5 months ago

When one does not understand this statement, one should study graph theory.

Roy Schubiger - 3 years, 5 months ago

This could also viewed by the pigeonhole principle wherease 13 holes(sum of all friend everyone has) cannot be filled by the friendships themselves(as each friendship contains two friends).

Emmanuel Gruffy - 3 years, 5 months ago
Mark Nishimura
Dec 24, 2017

If a person has n friends, then there must be n edges attached to that person in the corresponding friendship graph (in other words, the degree of the node is n). The total degree of the graph is the sum of the degrees of the individual nodes.

Adding an edge to the graph contributes +2 to the total degree (+1 to the degrees of the two nodes that the edge connects). Therefore the total degree must be even, since it is equal to 2 times the number of edges.

The situation described corresponds to 3 nodes of degree 3, and 2 nodes of degree 2, which gives: 3 × 3 + 2 × 2 = 13 2 × number of edges 3 \times 3 + 2 \times 2 = 13 \neq 2\times\text{number of edges} which is odd, and therefore impossible.

i tried and its no for answer;.

Layla Bilodeau - 3 years, 5 months ago

We can visualize the problem by creating a case (you may choose anyone and the eventual outcome will be the same) for the following 5 persons:

A B C D E

  1. Let A have 3 friends: B C D

  2. Let B have 3 friends: A C D (A was already connected to B in 1.)

  3. Let C have 3 friends: A B E (C was already connected to A and B in 1. and 2.)

We have fulfilled the 3 persons 3 friends criteria.

  1. This means D definitely has 2 friends: A and B as per the above conditions.

  2. Similarly, E has C as a friend. Now E cannot add either A, B or D as a friend because it will violate the 3 persons 3 friends condition in order to generate 2 persons 2 friends condition.

Thus, it is impossible to achieve such an overall condition.

Hi. Why can't the two people be friends with each other, and the three with each other. Did I miss that they all need to be connected?

Paul Nunes - 3 years, 5 months ago

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If the three people are friends with each other, they only have two friends. A with B,C ... B with A,C ... C with A,B ... They need to have another person involved.

Michael Holt - 3 years, 5 months ago

I just did it. 3 friends with 3 friends each and 2 friends with 2 friends each. There is no mention that a person cannot have a friend that is already a friend of someone else.

Perry Jones - 3 years, 5 months ago

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Draw a tree network diagram to understand my point. Just draw it and you will see how the violation occurs.

A Former Brilliant Member - 3 years, 5 months ago

C and D can have 3 friends A E and B can have 2 friends by joining C B and D in the picture.

kathleen drea - 3 years, 5 months ago

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Then B will have 4 friends, including A and E. So the criteria asked gets violated.

A Former Brilliant Member - 3 years, 5 months ago

give an example,and try to prove it's right or not,this method is good

Crystal Wang - 3 years, 3 months ago

In the language of Graph Theory,

Sum of degrees of the vertices of an undirected graph is always even.

Now, consider the people in the party as the vertices of a graph with number of friends of a person as the degree of the vertex representing the person.

Then 3 3 people with 3 3 friends and 2 2 people with 2 2 friends leave us with 3 × 3 + 2 × 2 = 13 3 \times 3 + 2 \times 2 = 13 (which is an odd number) as total degrees of vertices.

So, NO \boxed{\text{NO}} is the answer.

Kit Westman
Dec 30, 2017

Start with Five People Pick any person to have three friends. Now we have choices. We can make our second three friend guy a friend or not. Let's make him not a friend. Now we have three friends who have two friends, and two with three. Unfortunately, whoever we choose to upgrade to three friends will then have another friend with three friends, so it won't work.

So we try making him a friend of our first guy, He can only be friends with first guy's friends, or with the other one. Let's have him with first guy's friends only

Then, our third friend with three firends is a friend of the first firend, or not. If he's not, then we get too many friends. If he is, then we have a lonely friend :(

If our second friend is friends with the last friend, then we are again forced to pick the third three-friend to have too many friends.

Sanket Jain
Dec 29, 2017

Sum of all the "friends" has to be even. 3 3 + 2 2 = 13 (odd) So it is not Possible, so such situation is impossible.

33 + 22 = 55 not 13.

Munem Shahriar - 3 years, 5 months ago
Mohammad Khaza
Dec 25, 2017

according to the graph,

A & E is directly connected with B,C,D—–3 people \text{A \& E is directly connected with B,C,D-----3 people}

B,C, & D is directly connected with A,E——–2 people \text{B,C, \& D is directly connected with A,E--------2 people}

it is clearly seen that,2 people with 3 friends is possible but 3 people with 3 friends is not possible in 2 dimension \text{it is clearly seen that,2 people with 3 friends is possible but 3 people with 3 friends is not possible in 2 dimension}

Hanan Al Hadad
Dec 31, 2017

not possible, simply because there are just 5 people!

Zakariae Hamedoun
Dec 30, 2017

we have only five people so for 3friends and 3 people it will be 6people

okokokigetit.

Zhenxing Meilin - 3 years, 4 months ago
JuanP Ocampo
Dec 30, 2017

There are a theorem in graphs theory, and says; in a graph, there is an even number of vertex of odd degree. So, in the problem there are 3 people with 3 friends, in a graph, thus is, an odd number of vertex of odd degree.

Mohammed Essam
Dec 29, 2017

Assuming that 3 unique persons are going to befriend 3 similar others, this means there should be at least 6 persons, hence it is impossible.

David Fairer
Dec 29, 2017

I DO NOT WANT TO COMMENT ON THIS SOLUTION (the odd number of 3x3 + 2x2 which I hadn't noticed is a very good solution!). I WISH TO ASK A QUESTION! Which is how do you make a comment about a question before you have answered it. In particular what does the notation of a line over 3 variables abc mean which is the notation used in the question of this week. (I suppose that I'll just come back here to see if anyone has been kind enough to answer my question?) The general question that I've asked is a valid one I think. Is there a 'platform' to ask questions such as 'what does this notation mean'? Regards, David

Stephan Botha
Dec 29, 2017

There are 5 persons in the group (including yourself). The maximum number of friends you could have is 4 (you have to exclude "yourself"). Thus n-1. 5 -1 = 4. Given the supplied network diagram, it would be impossible.

Noel Pace
Dec 29, 2017

Seeing all these mathematical formulas...it's way simpler:

If three people have three friends the total would be 6 people. Can't be cause there are 5 people total...

That is not true. Imagine a group of four people, all being friends to each other. Then you have four people who have three friends each, yet only four people in total. So no, you don't need 6 people to have three people with three friends; the thing is, they can be friendships between the three "initial" people, so one doesn't need three more people necessarily (though at least one more person is needed, because one can't be friends with themselves, so in a group of three, one can have at most two friends)

Harry D - 3 years, 4 months ago

The problem can be modelled as an undirected graph. In essence one uses the Handshake-Theorem, which says that the sum of all the numbers of neighbors any vertex has (called degree of the vertex) must be two times the number of total edges in the graph. This implies that an undirected graph may not have an odd number of vertices with an odd number of neighbors, which would be the case in our model, if 3 people at a party had 3 friends.

V B
Dec 27, 2017

This is a basic example of euler's characteristic for connected planar graphs (V-E+F = 2) ? Correct?

Gnik Droy
Dec 27, 2017

The number of vertices of odd degree is always even in an undirected graph. There are three nodes with odd degrees (Three people with three friends). Therefore, no such graph exists.

Bram van Loon
Dec 26, 2017

Seen as their are only 5 people, and 3 of these have 3 friends. So that leaves us with only 2 people left, and they can't be friends with any of the other 3 seen as they only have 3 friends.

Mihir Mallick
Dec 25, 2017

In every graph, the sum of degrees of each vertex must be double of the total number of edges. Since (3 3)+(2 2) = 9+4 = 13, and 13 is odd, we can conclude that such a graph is not possible.

Archit Wagle
Sep 13, 2018

Handshaking Lemma

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