A point on an ellipse is such that, exactly three distinct normals to the ellipse pass through this point (as shown).
Define θ 1 and θ 2 as shown in the figure, where θ 2 > θ 1 .
Find tan θ 2 tan θ 1 .
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In general, let P be the point in the plane of ellipse through which exactly three normals can pass.
Then P is always of the form ( a a 2 − b 2 cos 3 θ , b a 2 − b 2 sin 3 θ )
And the slopes of the normals are:
m 1 = − b a tan θ
m 2 , m 3 = b a tan θ ( sec 2 θ ± tan 4 θ + sec 2 θ )
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Was your solution also same as the above solution? and can you provide a proof of your claim or a link... because these calculations are really tedious and lengthy....
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And if you want to find the slopes of the normals you would have to deal with a quartic equation (you can see this in my previous problems on ellipses).
Fortunately, the solutions to the quartic equation are simple in this case.
Also, I solved this problem in a very similar way as David Vreken.
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Let the ellipse have an equation of a 2 x 2 + b 2 y 2 = 1 , where a > b . Then by rearranging the equation, any point on the ellipse can be expressed as ( k , ± a b a 2 − k 2 ) .
Using implicit differentiation on the equation of the ellipse, a 2 2 x + b 2 2 y y ′ = 0 , which solves to y ′ = − a 2 y b 2 x , so the slope of a normal line perpendicular to the slope of the tangent line is b 2 x a 2 y , and if it through an x -coordinate of k its slope is ± b k a a 2 − k 2 and its equation is y = ± b k a a 2 − k 2 ( x − k ) ± a b a 2 − k 2 or y = ± a b k a 2 − k 2 ( a 2 x + ( a 2 − b 2 ) k ) .
Without loss of generality (and to match the given picture), let the point with three distinct normals be point P in the first quadrant with coordinates ( k 1 , a b a 2 − k 1 2 ) , let another point of normalcy be Q in the fourth quadrant with coordinates ( k 2 , − a b a 2 − k 2 2 ) , and let the third point of normalcy be R in the third quadrant with coordinates ( k 3 , − a b a 2 − k 3 2 ) . Also let S be a point on the normal through P not through R or Q .
Using the equations above, the slope through P S is m 1 = b k 1 a a 2 − k 1 2 , the slope through P Q is m 2 = − b k 2 a a 2 − k 2 2 , and the slope through P R is m 3 = − b k 3 a a 2 − k 3 2 , and the equations for P Q and P R are y = − a b k a 2 − k 2 ( a 2 x + ( a 2 − b 2 ) k ) for k = k 2 and k = k 3 , respectively.
Since P ( k 1 , a b a 2 − k 1 2 ) is on both P Q and P R , we have:
a b a 2 − k 1 2 = − a b k a 2 − k 2 ( a 2 k 1 + ( a 2 − b 2 ) k )
which after rearranging simplifies to:
k 4 − a 2 − b 2 2 a 2 k 1 k 3 + ( a 2 − b 2 ) 2 ( a 4 − b 4 ) k 1 2 − a 4 ( a 2 − 2 b 2 ) k 2 + a 2 − b 2 2 a 4 k 1 k − ( a 2 − b 2 ) 2 a 6 k 1 2 = 0
where the roots of this equation represent the x -coordinates of all the points of normalcy that go through P . Being a quartic equation suggests that up to 4 distinct normals can exist, but since we must have exactly 3 distinct normals this suggests there is a double-root. Also, one of these points includes P 's x -coordinate of k 1 , so fortunately we can factor ( k − k 1 ) to obtain:
( k − k 1 ) ( k 3 − a 2 − b 2 k 1 ( a 2 + b 2 ) k 2 − ( a 2 − b 2 ) 2 a 4 ( a 2 − 2 b 2 ) k + ( a 2 − b 2 ) 2 k 1 a 6 ) = 0
Without loss of generality, let the double-root be k 2 . Then ( k − k 1 ) ( k − k 2 ) 2 ( k − k 3 ) = 0 , or ( k − k 1 ) ( k 3 − ( 2 k 2 + k 3 ) k 2 + ( k 2 2 + k 3 ) k − k 2 2 k 3 ) = 0 , and comparing coefficients with this equation to the quartic equation above gives a system of equations where:
2 k 2 + k 3 = a 2 − b 2 k 1 ( a 2 + b 2 ) , k 2 2 + k 3 = − ( a 2 − b 2 ) 2 a 4 ( a 2 − 2 b 2 ) , k 2 2 k 3 = − ( a 2 − b 2 ) 2 k 1 a 6
which solves to:
k 1 = ( a 2 − b 2 ) ( a 2 + b 2 ) 3 a 4 ( a 2 − 2 b 2 ) 3 , k 2 = ( a 2 − b 2 ) ( a 2 + b 2 ) a 4 ( a 2 − 2 b 2 ) , k 3 = − ( a 2 − b 2 ) 3 ( a 2 + b 2 ) a 8 ( a 2 − 2 b 2 )
for k 1 > 0 , k 2 > 0 , and k 3 < 0 . Plugging these values into m 1 = b k 1 a a 2 − k 1 2 , m 2 = b k 2 a a 2 − k 2 2 , and m 3 = b k 3 a a 2 − k 3 2 as defined from above gives:
m 1 = ( a 2 − 2 b 2 ) 3 ( 2 a 2 − b 2 ) 3 , m 2 = − a 2 − 2 b 2 2 a 2 − b 2 , m 3 = a 4 ( a 2 − 2 b 2 ) b 4 ( 2 a 2 − b 2 )
Using the angle between two lines equation gives tan θ 1 = 1 + m 1 m 2 m 2 − m 1 = a 2 + b 2 ( a 2 − 2 b 2 ) ( 2 a 2 − b 2 ) and tan θ 2 = 1 + m 1 m 3 m 1 − m 3 = a 2 + b 2 2 ( a 2 − 2 b 2 ) ( 2 a 2 − b 2 ) = 2 tan θ 1 .
Therefore, tan θ 2 tan θ 1 = 2 tan θ 1 tan θ 1 = 2 1 = 0 . 5 .