Find b b by a a

A A A × A 3 B B A \begin{array}{cccc} & \color{#D61F06}A & \color{#D61F06}A & \color{#D61F06}A \\ \times & & & \color{#D61F06}A \\ \hline 3 & \color{#3D99F6}B & \color{#3D99F6}B & \color{#D61F06}A \end{array}

A \color{#D61F06}A and B \color{#3D99F6}B are digits. What is B ? {\color{#3D99F6}B}?

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14 solutions

Arjen Vreugdenhil
Aug 10, 2018

The last digit satisfies A × A = ? A , A \times A = \overline{?A}, which is only the case if A = 1 , 5 , 6 A = 1, 5, 6 .

Immediately we rule out A = 1 A = 1 (because then the product would have only 3 digits). That leaves 5 × 555 = 2775 , 5 \times 555 = 2775, which is too small; and 6 × 666 = 3996 , 6 \times 666 = 3996, which is the solution. Thus, B = 9 B = \boxed 9 .

Why is ?A automatically 1, 5, or 6?

Andy Knight - 2 years, 10 months ago

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Because if you multiply them (square them) they end with the same number. 1 times 1 = 1. 5 times 5 = 25. 6 times 6 = 36. All of them end with the number that was squared.

Mohammad Farhat - 2 years, 10 months ago

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0 is not applied because multiplying by 0 = 0

Mohammad Farhat - 2 years, 10 months ago

So ? Why does it have to end with the same number ?

anjali gola - 2 years, 9 months ago

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@Anjali Gola Because as we saw We multiplied AAA by A and it STILL ended with A

Mohammad Farhat - 2 years, 9 months ago

because on the square of both 1, 5, 6 gives the number as the end digit..

e.g 1x 1 = [1] 5 * 5 = 2[5] 6 * 6 = 3 [6]

so AAA x A could be 25 or 36 or 1 or 0 ... fits the solution

Oladipo Timothy - 2 years, 10 months ago

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But 3 is the first digit,only 6 satisfies this so let A = 6 A=6 then you find B B an type B B in the answer box

Gia Hoàng Phạm - 2 years, 5 months ago

Ha, I found an amusing situation in which 1 does not solve for A X A = A. Given that A = 1, and X is misinterpreted to form the binary XOR operation instead of multiplication.

Thus follows a correctly messed up exclusion for A = 1 as a valid solution is that A XOR A = 0 and thus cannot be a)

XD Der herp!

William Takacs - 2 years, 10 months ago

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An interesting mind mess occurs in the brain when one tries to think of A as representing 10 as it does in Hex. (Base 16)

William Takacs - 2 years, 10 months ago

im confused, if 6 is the solution why is 9 the answer?

Reuben Morris - 2 years, 9 months ago

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They were asking for A and A is 6. So doing the working, We get B=9

Mohammad Farhat - 2 years, 9 months ago

He means we need to find A A but B B is the answer

Gia Hoàng Phạm - 2 years, 9 months ago

*product, not quotient. :-B

C . - 2 years, 9 months ago

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Wow, yes, of course, how could I have done that wrong? :D

Arjen Vreugdenhil - 2 years, 9 months ago

We have, a a a × a = 3 b b a a 2 × 111 = 3 b b a ( 1 ) 3000 3 b b a 3999 ( 2 ) The only possible value of a satisifying ( 1 ) and ( 2 ) is a = 6 a 2 × 111 = 36 × 111 = 3996 b = 9 \begin{aligned}\text{We have,}\\ \large\overline{\color{#D61F06}aaa}\times {\color{#D61F06}a}&=\overline{3bb\color{#D61F06}a}\\ \large\implies \color{#D61F06}a^{2}\color{#333333}\times111&=\overline{3bb\color{#D61F06}a}\hspace{4mm}\color{#3D99F6}\small(1)\\ 3000&\leq\overline{3bb\color{#D61F06}a}\leq3999\hspace{4mm}\color{#3D99F6}\small(2)\\ \text{The only possible }&\text{value of }\color{#D61F06}a \color{#333333}\text{ satisifying } \color{#3D99F6} (1) \color{#333333}\text{ and }\color{#3D99F6} (2) \text{ is } \color{#D61F06}a\color{#333333}=6 \\ \large\implies \color{#D61F06}a^{2}\color{#333333}\times111&=36\times111=3996\\ \implies \color{#EC7300}&\boxed{\color{#333333}b=9}\end{aligned}

bad sulotion

Tudde Joker - 2 years, 10 months ago

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Bad comment.

mike tong - 2 years, 10 months ago

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Good comment... on a comment :)

battle fir - 2 years, 9 months ago

It is about appreciating it...)

battle fir - 2 years, 9 months ago

Bad spelling. Solution is the proper way to spell it.

Sonia Shanzer - 2 years, 9 months ago

How does “aaa * a = 3bba” imply equation (1) ?

I like this solution, it’s super unique! I’m just missing the steps between the problem statement and (1). Thanks in advance.

Michael Fekadu - 2 years, 10 months ago

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a a a × a = 3 b b a a a a = a × 111 a 2 × 111 = 3 b b a \begin{aligned} \large\overline{\color{#D61F06}aaa}\times {\color{#D61F06}a}&=\overline{3bb\color{#D61F06}a}\\ \large\overline{\color{#D61F06}aaa}&=\color{#D61F06} a \color{#333333} \times 111\\ \large\implies \color{#D61F06}a^{2}\color{#333333}\times111&=\overline{3bb\color{#D61F06}a} \end{aligned}

Thanks for your comment btw!

Anirudh Sreekumar - 2 years, 10 months ago

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What do the horizontal lines above the letters indicate? the complement? I did not see that in the original question. Apologies if i'm asking a silly question.

Gys Wes - 2 years, 9 months ago

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@Gys Wes It generally means concatenation, which means you treat it as a single number.

In equations a b c d abcd can be misread as the product of numbers a,b,c,d.

But a b c d \overline {abcd } means a single 4 digit number with digits a,b,c,d.

Anirudh Sreekumar - 2 years, 9 months ago

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@Anirudh Sreekumar Were can i learn this method? Tnx in advance! :)

Max Nieuwstad - 2 years, 9 months ago

Intermediate value theorem, nice. I used this method as well

Andrew Olesen - 2 years, 9 months ago
Ma Pm
Aug 4, 2018

(100a+10a+a)a=3000+100b+10b+a;

111a²-a=3000+110b;

b=(111a²-a-3000)/110;

111a²-a>3000;

minimum a=6 then b=9;

We see that the upper product displays a 2 = 3 a a^2=\overline{3a} so it same as a a = 30 + a a ( a 1 ) = 30 aa=30+a \implies a(a-1)=30 which only 6 solve the solution

Hence, a = 6 \color{#D61F06}\boxed{\large{a=6}}

The upper product displays a a a × a = 3 b b a \overline{aaa} \times a=\overline{3bba} so it same as 3000 < 111 a × a < 3999 3000 < 111 a 2 < 3999 3000<111a \times a<3999 \implies 3000<111a^2<3999 .Because it contains 111 which is part of 1 0 n + 1 0 n 1 + 1 0 n 2 + + 1 0 3 + 1 0 2 + 10 + 1 10^n+10^{n-1}+10^{n-2}+\dots+10^3+10^2+10+1 so that means we have to take 3 from 3 a \overline{3a} then plus a a which is 9

Hence, b = 9 \color{#3D99F6}\boxed{\large{b=9}}

You made a typo after you plug 6.

Naren Bhandari - 2 years, 10 months ago

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Oh,I know,Thanks

Gia Hoàng Phạm - 2 years, 10 months ago
Rico Linke
Aug 13, 2018

At first, we have to know which digit A represents. We know A x A = A. So we´re searching a one digit number, which has itself as the last digit if we square it.

number squared numbers
1 1
2 4
3 9
4 16
5 25
6 36
7 49
8 64
9 81
0 0

There are only four numbers, which fulfill the condition: 1, 5, 6 and 0. The second condition is that the leading digit must be 2 or 3 because of the leading digit of the calculations' solution is, not the B and it's a 3 Looking back at the remaining numbers and at the table shows that only one number remains: 6. Finally, the solution of the problem is the sum of both digits of 6 squared. Looking back at the table again reveals 6 squared is 36 and 3 + 6 = 9

Vinod Kumar
Aug 13, 2018

Out of 1, 5 and 6 as the possible value for A, 6 satisfies the requirements and 666x6=3996 gives 9 as the value for B, Therefore, Answer = 9

Josh Gild
Aug 17, 2018

I didn't want to solve this problem using logic, so I just made a Python 3.7 program and solved it:

x = 0;
for x in range(0, 9):
    num = (x*100) + (x*10) + x;  
    print(str(num) + " * " + str(x) + " = " + str(int(num) * int(x))

Using the program, it says that '666 * 6 = 3996', therefore:

B = 9

Great!But where I can launch Python?

Gia Hoàng Phạm - 2 years, 9 months ago

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Brilliant has a scratchpad for Python 3 where you can enter and run code.

Profile --> Coding Environment --> (Select 'Python 3')

Thanks for the problem! :)

Josh Gild - 2 years, 9 months ago
Pedro C
Aug 19, 2018

666*6= 3996 ... A=6 B=9

Where do you get 6 from?

Gia Hoàng Phạm - 2 years, 9 months ago
Rahul Swaminathan
Aug 17, 2018

A must be a number when multiplied by itself, should end up being a number with the last digit being the same number.

That means A can equal 1 or 6 because...

1 x 1 = 1 6 x 6 = 36

If you substitute A with both 1 and 6, 6 ends up being the number that gives the answer with a 3 as the first digit. After multiplying the answer is 3996, meaning B equals 9.

You forget 0 & 5 when squared the last digit are the same.

Gia Hoàng Phạm - 2 years, 9 months ago
Ayesha Siddiqua
Aug 14, 2018

Could you not have just thought of it as the choices having to be a perfect square, and that it 3 has to be a factor of one of the choices?

Excuse me,your comment should be on the reports,because I can't see you solve this problem.Plus,3 is the digit,not the factor.

Gia Hoàng Phạm - 2 years, 9 months ago
Andrew Williams
Aug 14, 2018

The last digit of “3 B B A” (A) = the last digit of A x A which we know simply from the basic method of long multiplication. This is only true for 3 numbers: 1, 5 and 6. We know 111 x 1 = 111, hence one is impossible as the product begins with 3. 555 x 5 starts with a 5, which we know from the method of long multiplication. 666 x 6 does begin with 3 as 6 x 6 = 36 and long multiplication states that we start with that 3 from 36. This is pretty cool as we see how 555 x 5 and 666 x 6 start with the first letter of their squares and end with the last letter of their square. It’s also true that the numbers in between the start and end = the sum of the numbers of the square of the single digit eg: 6 x 6 = 36, so the other digits (B) = 3 + 6= 9 therefor B = 9 ( its also true the total amount of digits = the amount of numbers in the sum) Let’s prove the above statement for understanding.

Take 4

4 x 4 = 16 Therefor we know 444 x 4 = 1776, no calculator needed. Let’s look at long multiplication, the most simple math technique taught to grade 1s and 2s 444

x4

16+ 160 + 1600 since we add a zero each time when we multiply each miner I the top by the number in the bottom. From here it’s easy to see how the Coloums will add up to prove our statement.

Mary Arans
Aug 14, 2018

666 × 6 = 3996, so A = 6 and B = 9

Abhishek Krishna
Aug 13, 2018

If the number would have been 111, 222 or 333 then multiplying it by 1,2 and 3 respectively will give us a 3 digit number. So, they can not be the numbers. Multiplying 444 and 555 with 4 & 5 respectively will give the numbers which doesn't start's with 3. But 666×6 = 3996 which matches exactly with the given form. Hence, by comparing we get A=6 & B=9.

Xiaohua Chen
Aug 13, 2018

To work out B we first need to work out A. So looking at the equation, A x A must end in A. The only whole numbers A can be is "6" or "5" because 6 x 6 = 36, and
5 x 5 = 25. It can't be 5 because 555 x 5 = 2775, and we need the number in the thousands place value to be "3" which it isn't. So lets try "6" 666 x 6 = 3996. So B = 9

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