Find Primes!

Read the following statements carefully.

[ 1 ] [1] . It is completely impossible to find a non-constant infinite arithmetic progression such that all of the terms are prime numbers.

[ 2 ] [2] . It isn't possible to find a non-constant polynomial f ( x ) f(x) with integer coefficients such that f ( x ) f(x) is a prime number for all integer values of x x .

[ 3 ] [3] . If f ( x ) = 4 x 1 f(x)=4x-1 , it is possible to find infinite values of x x such that f ( x ) f(x) is a prime.

Which of these are correct?


This problem is from the set "MCQ Is Not As Easy As 1-2-3". You can see the rest of the problems here .

[ 1 ] [1] and [ 3 ] [3] [ 2 ] [2] and [ 3 ] [3] [ 1 ] [1] and [ 2 ] [2] All of them are correct.

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1 solution

Abhishek Sinha
May 12, 2014

(1) If possible, suppose such an AP is p n = a + n d , n 0 p_n=a+nd, n \geq 0 , which is prime for all n n . WOLOG, we may assume that a a and d d are positive integers. However p a = a ( 1 + d ) p_a=a(1+d) which is definitely not prime.

(2) If possible such a polynomial be f ( x ) = n = 0 d a n x n f(x)=\sum_{n=0}^{d}a_nx^n . where a 0 0 a_0\neq 0 (otherwise it is a composite number for every integer). Then just note that f ( a 0 ) = a 0 × K f(a_0)=a_0\times K , where K K is an integer. Thus f ( a 0 ) f(a_0) is not a prime.

(3) Dirichlet's Theorem

Are you sure about 1)? Check out "Green-Tao Theorem", recently proven. But then again, it could be argued that "an arbitrarily long progression" is not the same as "an infinite progression".

I remember looking for long sequences of primes in arithmetic progression, a while back.

Michael Mendrin - 7 years, 1 month ago

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Yes, The Green-Tao theorem is about existence of an arbitrarily long (but finite) arithmetic progression of primes, which is completely different from a sequence of arithmetic progression of primes having infinite number of terms. The argument that I gave for (1) should be okay here.

Abhishek Sinha - 7 years, 1 month ago

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True enough, but it's an awfully moot point, this fine distinction.

Michael Mendrin - 7 years, 1 month ago

I proved part 2 in this way,let f ( x ) = a n x n + . . . . . . . . . . + a 1 x + a 0 f(x) = a_nx^{n}+..........+a_1x + a_0 Say f ( 1 ) = a n + a n 1 + . . . . . . . + a 0 = c f(1) = a_n+a_{n-1}+.......+a_0 = c f ( 1 + c ) = a n ( 1 + c ) n + a n 1 ( 1 + c ) n 1 + . . . . . + a 0 f(1+c) = a_n(1+c)^{n}+a_{n-1}(1+c)^{n-1}+.....+a_0 Expanding binomially we get , f ( 1 + c ) = c K + ( a n + . . . . . . . . + a 0 ) f(1+c) = c*K + (a_n+........+a_0) for some k. f ( 1 + c ) = c K + c f(1+c) = c*K+c f ( 1 + c ) = ( K + 1 ) c f(1+c) = (K+1)c Clearly K + 1 > 1 K+1 > 1 and c > 1 c > 1 . Hence f ( 1 + c ) f(1+c) is composite!

Eddie The Head - 7 years, 1 month ago

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Nicely done!

You can generalize this. If f ( x ) f(x) is a polynomial with integer coefficients, then f ( a + f ( a ) ) f(a+f(a)) is divisible by f ( a ) f(a) .

EDIT: Wait a second! How do you know that c > 1 c>1 ? How do you know that the coefficients of f ( x ) f(x) don't add up to ± 1 \pm 1 ?

Mursalin Habib - 7 years, 1 month ago

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Because c must be a prime ^_^

Eddie The Head - 7 years, 1 month ago

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@Eddie The Head Oh! totally forgot about that! :)

There is only one small part that's missing. The proof isn't rigorous until you handle this.

What if f ( 1 ) = f ( 1 + c ) f(1)=f(1+c) ? This is very much possible [and happens when K = 0 K=0 ]. Can you complete your solution by considering this?

Mursalin Habib - 7 years, 1 month ago

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@Mursalin Habib As you have mentioned f ( a ) f ( a + f ( a ) ) f(a) | f(a+f(a)) for all integers a a . So if f ( a + f ( a ) ) = p f ( a ) f(a+f(a)) = p*f(a) for some integer p > 1 p>1 and then it is composite. Otherwise if p = 1 p = 1 for all such f ( a ) f(a) ,then the polynomial g ( x ) = f ( x + f ( x ) ) f ( x ) g(x) = f(x+f(x)) - f(x) has infinitely many solutions.But a finite degree polynomial cannot have infinite roots!

Eddie The Head - 7 years, 1 month ago

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@Eddie The Head Perfect!

[I'm adding this paragraph because Brilliant wants me to " provide a more complete explanation of" my "question or response before submitting a reply". Other than that this paragraph has no significant value.]

Mursalin Habib - 7 years, 1 month ago

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@Mursalin Habib Did u solve it the same way???

Eddie The Head - 7 years, 1 month ago

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@Eddie The Head Yes [adding more characters so that Brilliant accepts it. You can't post a comment which has less than 10 characters :)]

Mursalin Habib - 7 years, 1 month ago

@Mursalin Habib As an example, if f ( x ) = x 2 4 x + 5 f(x)=x^2-4x+5 , then f ( 1 ) = c = 2 f(1)=c=2 and f ( 1 + c ) = f ( 3 ) = 2 f(1+c)=f(3)=2 as well.

Mursalin Habib - 7 years, 1 month ago

Your argument for [ 2 ] [2] is incomplete. What if a 0 = ± 1 a_0=\pm 1 ?

Mursalin Habib - 7 years, 1 month ago

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It is not difficult to modify my original argument. There must exist an integer a a such that f ( a ) ± 1 f(a)\neq \pm 1 . Then using division algorithm, we can write f ( x ) = ( x a ) Q ( x ) + K f(x)=(x-a)Q(x)+K , where Q ( x ) Q(x) is a polynomial with integer coefficients (check this) and K ± 1 K\neq \pm 1 . Now f ( a + K ) = K ( Q ( a + K ) + 1 ) f(a+K)=K(Q(a+K)+1) which is definitely composite.

Abhishek Sinha - 7 years, 1 month ago

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I understand. I was merely pointing it out. You can edit your solution and add your comment in there. Makes it more complete.

Mursalin Habib - 7 years, 1 month ago

My argument for #1 was as follows: take an integer m m relatively prime to and larger than d . d. Then p n p_n is cyclic modulo m , m, so there is an element of { p n } \{p_n\} divisible by m , m, contradiction.

Michael Tang - 7 years, 1 month ago

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Clarification: By "cyclic modulo m m " I mean that the inverse e = d 1 e = d^{-1} exists modulo m , m, so p e ( m a ) = a + d e ( m a ) a + 1 ( m a ) = m 0 ( m o d m ) . p_{e \cdot (m-a)} = a + d \cdot e(m-a) \equiv a + 1(m-a) = m \equiv 0 \pmod{m}.

Michael Tang - 7 years, 1 month ago

Take a bow. I learnt a lot frm dis soln.Thnx.

Chandrachur Banerjee - 7 years, 1 month ago

@Abhishek Sinha : beautiful solution!

Surajit Rajagopal - 7 years ago

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