Find the minimum in a proper subset with those condtions

A A is a non-empty proper subset of Z \mathbb Z with at least two elements, and with the following property:

If a a and b b are distinct elements of A , A, then a , -a, a + 2 b , a+2b, and a + 19 a+19 are also elements of A . A.

Find min a A a 0 ( a ) . \min \limits_{a \in A \atop a \neq 0}\big(|a|\big).


The answer is 19.

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3 solutions

Arjen Vreugdenhil
Jan 23, 2018

Short proof

We have A = A + 19 Z A = A + 19\mathbb Z and for any b A b \in A , A = A + 2 b Z A = A + 2b\mathbb Z . Thus A = A + 19 Z + 2 b Z = A + gcd ( 19 , 2 b ) Z , A = A + 19\mathbb Z + 2b\mathbb Z = A + \text{gcd}(19,2b)\mathbb Z, but since A Z A\not = \mathbb Z , we must have gcd ( 19 , 2 b ) > 1 \text{gcd}(19,2b) > 1 so that 19 b 19 | b and A 19 Z A \subseteq 19\mathbb Z . However, if A A \not= \emptyset then also A b + 19 Z = 19 Z A \supseteq b + 19\mathbb Z = 19\mathbb Z , so that in fact A = 19 Z A = 19\mathbb Z and the desired minimum is 19 \boxed{19} .


Longer version for those who don't like concise set notation.

(1) If a A a \in A , then a + 19 n A a + 19n \in A for all integers n n . Proof:

  • For n = 0 n = 0 it is trivial.

  • For n > 0 n > 0 , by induction. If a = a + 19 ( n 1 ) A a' = a + 19(n-1) \in A , then according to the rule, a + 19 = a + 19 n A a' + 19 = a + 19n \in A .

  • For n < 0 n < 0 , by induction. If a = a + 19 ( n + 1 ) A a' = a + 19(n+1) \in A , then a A -a' \in A , so a + 19 A -a' + 19 \in A , so ( a + 19 ) = a 19 = a + 19 n A -(-a' + 19) = a' - 19 = a + 19n \in A .

(2) If a , b A a,b \in A , then a + 2 b n A a + 2bn \in A for all integers n n . Proof:

  • Assuming a b a \not = b , use a similar reasoning by induction as above.

  • The case a = b a = b is easily avoided by observing that a + 19 A a + 19 \in A , so a + 19 + 2 b n A a + 19 + 2bn \in A for all n n , so a + 19 + 2 b n 19 = a + 2 b n A a + 19 + 2bn - 19 = a + 2bn \in A for all n n .

(3) Suppose b A b \in A is not a multiple of 19, and suppose a A a \in A . Let c Z c \in \mathbb Z . Then c A c \in A . Proof:

  • gcd ( 2 b , 19 ) = 1 \text{gcd}(2b,19) = 1 .

  • From the (extended) Eucleidan algorithm, there exist integers n 1 , n 2 n_1, n_2 such that c a = 2 b n 1 + 19 n 2 c - a = 2bn_1 + 19n_2 .

  • Since a A a \in A , we know from (2) that a + 2 b n 1 A a + 2bn_1 \in A , and from (1) that a + 2 b n 1 + 19 n 2 = c A a + 2bn_1 + 19n_2 = c \in A .

(4) We are told that A Z A \not= \mathbb Z , so that there must be an integer c ∉ A c \not \in A . Using the converse of (3), we conclude that there does not exist b A b \in A that is not a multiple of 19. It follows that A A only contains multiples of 19.

(5) Since A A is not empty, it contains at least one such multiple of 19, say a = 19 m a = 19m . But from (1) we know that then all integers a + 19 n = 19 ( n + m ) a + 19n = 19(n+m) are elements of A A . In other words, A A is precisely the set of all multiples of 19 ( A = 19 Z A = 19\mathbb Z ).

It is now easy to conclude that the answer to the problem is 19 \boxed{19} .

But simply speaking,. If a = 2 and b=1; then we have smallest element in A as 0

Dhruva Gole - 3 years, 3 months ago

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In the problem statement, Othman Slassi wrote a 0 a \not = 0 . It is printed smallish underneath "min", but it is there!

Arjen Vreugdenhil - 3 years, 3 months ago
Othman Slassi
Jan 14, 2018

Denote m = min a A ( a ) m=\min \limits_{a \in A}(|a|) we first proof this claim:

Claim: A A is a subgroup of ( Z , + ) (\mathbb Z, +)

Let a , b A a,b \in A we have : ( m 1 ) : a + 2 m b A (\forall m\ge1) : a+2mb \in A ( Just use induction, easy!) so a + 20 b A a+20b \in A . By easy induction we also have: ( x A ) ( n Z ) : x + 19 n A (\forall x\in A)(\forall n\in \mathbb Z) : x+19n \in A for n = b n=-b and x = a + 20 b x=a+20b we find: a + b A a+b \in A \square

A A is a subgroup of ( Z , + ) (\mathbb Z, +) so A = m Z A= m\mathbb Z witch means that if x A x \in A : m x m | x but we have also m ( x + 19 ) m | (x+19) since x + 19 A x+19\in A so m 19 m | 19 . m = 19 m=19 , since we cannot have m = 1 m=1 because then we would have A = Z A=\mathbb Z .

Why did you put in + 2 ^ m * b € A ...? You could simply put a + 2mb € A (by induction), and then x = a + 2 * 10b and n = -b and get the same prove without needing Fermat's Little Theoreme.

And there's a typo, I think you wanted to say x + 19n rather than a +19n.

Very nice prove.

Pau Cantos - 3 years, 4 months ago

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YES, thank you you're absolutly right!

Othman Slassi - 3 years, 4 months ago

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Can you make those edits directly to your solution? Thanks

Calvin Lin Staff - 3 years, 4 months ago

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@Calvin Lin yes of course

Othman Slassi - 3 years, 4 months ago
David Vreken
Jan 24, 2018

Assume that there is an element b b in A A that is not divisible by 19 19 . Then 2 b 2b is also not divisible by 19 19 , and by Fermat’s little theorem ( 2 b ) 18 1 m o d 19 (2b)^{18} \equiv 1 \mod 19 . Then through multiple uses of the rule a + 2 b a + 2b we can start with an element a a (not equal to b b ) and arrive at an element c = a + ( 2 b ) 18 a + 1 m o d 19 c = a + (2b)^{18} \equiv a + 1 \mod 19 , and through multiple uses of the rule a -a and a + 19 a + 19 we can obtain element d = a + 1 d = a + 1 .

In other words, if b b is not divisible by 19 19 , we can carry out the above steps on element a a to obtain element a + 1 a + 1 , and again on element a + 1 a + 1 to obtain element a + 2 a + 2 , and so on. Using this and the rule of a -a , all the integers Z \mathbb Z can be obtained in A A . But this contradicts the fact that A A is a proper subset of Z \mathbb Z .

Therefore, all the elements in A A must be divisible by 19 19 , and the smallest non-zero multiple of 19 19 is 19 \boxed{19} .

Going all the way to a + ( 2 b ) 18 a + (2b)^{18} is overkill... There always exists 1 x 18 1 \leq x \leq 18 such that 2 b x 1 2bx \equiv 1 mod 19, unless b b is a multiple of 19. (And if b b is a multiple of 19, then a + ( 2 b ) 18 a + (2b)^{18} won't be equivalent to a + 1 a + 1 mod 19, either.)

Arjen Vreugdenhil - 3 years, 4 months ago

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Thanks for the tip! I did not know about that theorem, whereas I did know about Fermat's Little Theorem. I suppose I could improve my solution to replace "and by Fermat’s little theorem ( 2 b ) 18 1 m o d 19 (2b)^{18} \equiv 1 \mod 19 . Then through multiple uses of the rule a + 2 b a + 2b we can start with an element a a (not equal to b b ) and arrive at an element c = a + ( 2 b ) 18 a + 1 m o d 19 c = a + (2b)^{18} \equiv a + 1 \mod 19 " with "there always exists 1 x 18 1 \leq x \leq 18 such that 2 b x 1 m o d 19 2bx \equiv 1 \mod 19 . Then through multiple uses of the rule a + 2 b a + 2b we can start with an element a a (not equal to b b ) and arrive at an element c = a + 2 b x a + 1 m o d 19 c = a + 2bx \equiv a + 1 \mod 19 ", but then it would be very similar to your solution, and I was hoping to present something different. (Using Fermat's Little Theorem is also how I originally solved the problem.)

David Vreken - 3 years, 4 months ago

I did a slight variation on this: for a+2b, take b=a mod 19, i.e. if a is in the set then so is 3a ; since 3 and 19 are coprime this implies that if there is a non-zero (mod 19) set member then all integers are in the set.

Matt McNabb - 3 years, 4 months ago

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