Sum versus reciprocal sum

Algebra Level 1

I have 2 numbers.

The sum of these 2 numbers is 15.
The sum of the reciprocals of these two numbers is 3 10 \frac3{10} .

What is the larger value of these 2 numbers?

10 9 8 7

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2 solutions

Michael Huang
Dec 2, 2016

Let x , y x,y denote two variables, satisfying x + y = 15 1 x + 1 y = 3 10 \begin{array}{rl} x + y &= 15\\ \dfrac{1}{x} + \dfrac{1}{y} &= \dfrac{3}{10} \end{array} where x , y 0 x,y\neq 0 . For the second equation, multiply both sides by 10 x y 10xy , so 10 x y ( 1 x + 1 y ) = 10 x y 3 10 10 ( y + x ) = 3 x y 10 ( 15 ) = 3 x y x y = 50 \begin{array}{rl} 10xy\left(\dfrac{1}{x} + \dfrac{1}{y}\right) &= 10xy \cdot \dfrac{3}{10}\\ 10\left(y + x\right) &= 3xy\\ 10(15) &= 3xy\\ xy &= 50 \end{array} which yields x + y = 15 x y = 50 \begin{array}{rl} x + y &= 15\\ xy &= 50 \end{array} Relating the system of equations to Vieta's formula (see Note ), we see that the equation to solve is z 2 15 z + 50 = 0 z^2 - 15z + 50 = 0 where x x and y y are the solutions of the equation. Thus, ( z 10 ) ( z 5 ) = 0 z = 5 , 10 \begin{array}{rl} (z - 10)(z - 5) &= 0\\ z &= \boxed{5, 10} \end{array} which solve the system of equations.


Note

Vieta's formula for quadratics is f ( x ) = a z 2 + b z + c f(x) = {\color{#D61F06}a}z^2 + {\color{#20A900}b}z + {\color{#3D99F6}c} For x + y = 15 x y = 50 \begin{array}{rl} x + y &= 15\\ xy &= 50 \end{array} we want b a = 15 -\dfrac{{\color{#20A900}b}}{{\color{#D61F06}a}} = 15 and c a = 50 \dfrac{{\color{#3D99F6}c}}{{\color{#D61F06}a}} = 50 . Clearly, if a = 1 \color{#D61F06}a = 1 , then b = 15 , c = 50 {\color{#20A900}b = -15}, {\color{#3D99F6}c = 50} .

I like how you would always add note in the end of your solution. I don't have to do additional googling. :D

Christopher Boo - 4 years, 6 months ago

It is also possible to derive the difference of roots from Vieta's without actually calculating the roots ;)

Lolly Lau - 4 years, 6 months ago

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Would thought of that too to make the solution elegant! :)

Michael Huang - 4 years, 6 months ago

A Simple, Elegant Solution :

Let x x and y y represent the two unknown numbers.

Based on the question, we can form a pair of simultaneous equations:

1 1 . x + y = 15 x+y=15

2 2 . 1 x + 1 y = 3 10 \frac{1}{x}+ \frac{1}{y}=\frac{3}{10}

First, we will try to make the second equation a bit more neater and simpler to work with:

1 x + 1 y = 3 10 \frac{1}{x}+ \frac{1}{y}=\frac{3}{10}

y + x x y = 3 10 \frac{y+x}{xy}= \frac{3}{10}

Subsitute value:

15 x y = 3 10 \frac{15}{xy}= \frac{3}{10}

Do side changing to obtain:

3 x y = 10 × 15 3xy=10 \times 15

And you get...

x y = 10 × 5 xy=10 \times 5

Wallah! We just solved for x x and y y . If you don't get it...

x × y = 10 × 5 x \times y=10 \times 5

which essentially suggests that the pair of numbers is 10 10 and 5 5 . However, we can't tell which is which.

And this leads us to the conclusion, that the largest number value is therefore 10 \boxed{10} .

this is really cool !

Charlotte Milanese - 4 years, 5 months ago

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@Soha Farhin Pine Pine I don't have an email so I couldn't make an account on your website . :(

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