First EM problem that I solved by myself

A non-conducting disc of radius a a and uniform positive charge density σ \sigma is placed on ground, with its axis vertical. A particle of mass m m and positive charge q q is dropped along the axis of disc from a height H H with zero initial velocity. The particle has charge to mass ratio q m = 4 g ϵ 0 σ \frac{q}{m}=\frac{4g\epsilon_0}{\sigma} . The ratio H a \frac{H}{a} such that the particle barely reaches the disc can be expressed as n 1 n 2 \frac{n_1}{n_2} where n 1 , n 2 n_1,n_2 are coprime integers. Calculate the value of n 1 + n 2 . n_1+n_2.

Details and assumptions

\bullet ϵ 0 \epsilon_0 is permittivity of free space and g g is acceleration due to gravity.

\bullet Particle does not radiate while accelerating.

\bullet This problem is taken from IIT 1999 question paper.


The answer is 7.

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2 solutions

Deepanshu Gupta
Dec 22, 2014

We Use Energy Conservation ! (take reference for gravitational Potential energy at disc)

U f , g r a v . + K f + U f , E l e c t = U i , g r a v . + K i + U i , E l e c t \displaystyle{ U }_{ f,grav. }+{ K }_{ f }+{ U }_{ f,Elect }\quad ={ \quad U }_{ i,grav. }+{ K }_{ i }+{ U }_{ i,Elect } .

0 + 0 + q V f = m g H + 0 + q V i q ( σ 2 ϵ R ) = m g H + q ( σ 2 ϵ ( H 2 + R 2 H ) ) \displaystyle0+0+q{ V }_{ f }\quad =\quad mgH+0+q{ V }_{ i }\quad \\ q(\cfrac { \sigma }{ 2\epsilon } R)\quad =\quad mgH+q(\cfrac { \sigma }{ 2\epsilon } (\sqrt { { H }^{ 2 }+{ R }^{ 2 } } -H)) .

after solving this this simple equation by substituting the given value of specific Charge ratio we should get :

H = 2 R 3 \boxed { H=\cfrac { 2R }{ 3 } } . Answer



Note :Here I used Directly General Standard expression for electric Potential at hight 'x' is given by : V ( x ) = σ 2 ϵ ( x 2 + R 2 x ) \\ \boxed { V(x)\quad =\cfrac { \sigma }{ 2\epsilon } (\sqrt { { x }^{ 2 }+{ R }^{ 2 } } -x) } .

I think H = 4 a 3 H=\dfrac{4a}{3}

Pranjal Jain - 6 years, 4 months ago

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You can also use I Newton's law but why would you solve 2nd order dif. equation when you can solve 1st order(conversation law). :D

Вук Радовић - 6 years, 4 months ago

NO the solution given is absolutely correct. Great Job!!

B.s. Ashwin - 6 years, 3 months ago

Dear Aman, you gave a wrong expression for the mass (m) versus charge (q) relation m/q, if you really want the readers to get your answer (7).

Yes Sir ! You r correct! I'am amazed How other's get right answer ? They even don't report it

@Aman Sharma Can you Please Rephrased This question ? Thanks

Karan Shekhawat - 6 years, 5 months ago

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I have rephrased the question, sorry if you lost points because of me.I promise it won't happen in future again.......also thanks for reporting the problem......sorry again

Aman Sharma - 6 years, 5 months ago

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I also lost some point's initially but Now I got more Point's due to change of Rating of this question :) And Don't worry This Type of mistake Happen's on brilliant :)

Deepanshu Gupta - 6 years, 5 months ago

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@Deepanshu Gupta From which class you started preparing for JEE @Deepanshu Gupta

Aman Sharma - 6 years, 5 months ago

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@Aman Sharma Well , I started preparation from 11th class (But I was Serious in 12th :) due to which I suffered Lot :) )

Deepanshu Gupta - 6 years, 5 months ago

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@Deepanshu Gupta You have awsome problem solving skills.Do you go to coaching institute

Aman Sharma - 6 years, 5 months ago

No problem !

Karan Shekhawat - 6 years, 5 months ago

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