An algebra problem by A Former Brilliant Member

Algebra Level 4

Find the value of x + y x+y given x 2 + 2 y + 4 + x 2 + x y + 5 = x 2 + x + 3 y + 2 + x 2 + 2 x + 3 \sqrt{x^{2}+2y+4}+\sqrt{x^{2}+x-y+5}=\sqrt{x^{2}+x+3y+2}+\sqrt{x^{2}+2x+3}


The answer is 2.

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6 solutions

Now, a "legit" solution.

First, observe that x 2 + x + 3 y + 2 = x 2 + 2 y + 4 + ( x + y 2 ) x^{2}+x+3y+2=x^{2}+2y+4+(x+y-2)

Also, observe that x 2 + 2 x + 3 = x 2 + x y + 5 + ( x + y 2 ) x^{2}+2x+3=x^{2}+x-y+5+(x+y-2)

Now, let z = x + y 2 z=x+y-2 . Then, we get x 2 + 2 y + 4 + x 2 + x y + 5 = x 2 + 2 y + 4 + z + x 2 + x y + 5 + z \sqrt{x^{2}+2y+4}+\sqrt{x^{2}+x-y+5}=\sqrt{x^{2}+2y+4+z}+\sqrt{x^{2}+x-y+5+z}

Thus, we can split this equation into 3 cases:

Case 1: z > 0 z>0

This implies that RHS>LHS, so no solution.

Case 2: z < 0 z<0

This implies that RHS<LHS, so no solution.

Hence, we are left with the last case, z = 0 z=0 , so we get x + y = 2 x+y=2 .

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Rindell Mabunga - 5 years, 4 months ago

Does this mean we can somehow rewrite this equation as x + y = 2 x+y=2 ? If so, how?

Anupam Nayak - 5 years, 4 months ago
Nond Nachanon
Jan 19, 2016

I observed, from the problem, that since LHS = RHS,

2y+4=2x+3 -----equation 1

And

-y+5=3y+2 -----equation 2

So from equation 2,

-y-3y=2-5

-4y=-3

y=3/4

Then, Substitute 3/4 into the first equation

2*(3/4)+4-3= 2x

6/4+1=2x

6/4+4/4=2x

10/4=2x

10/4*1/2=x

x=5/4

Therefore,

x+y=5/4+3/4

x+y=8/4

x+y=2

Archit Agrawal
Jan 17, 2016

Take y=0, we will get x=2.

Why must y = 0 y=0 ? Why can't y = 1 y=1 ?

Pi Han Goh - 5 years, 4 months ago

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You can use any value as you want.

Archit Agrawal - 5 years, 4 months ago

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Who said so? Who said that we can use whatever value we want?

Pi Han Goh - 5 years, 4 months ago

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@Pi Han Goh If we put any value of x or y then we are left with a equation in other variable and we can solve it easily and will see that x+y is always equal to 2.

Archit Agrawal - 5 years, 4 months ago

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@Archit Agrawal How do you know that we can put in any value of x x or y y ? And the results always yields 2 as the answer?

Pi Han Goh - 5 years, 4 months ago

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@Pi Han Goh The question says that find the sum of x and y. Then there must be a fixed value for it.

Archit Agrawal - 5 years, 4 months ago

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@Archit Agrawal You can't assume that's there's a fixed value of x + y x+y .

Pi Han Goh - 5 years, 4 months ago

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@Pi Han Goh Why I can't assume that there is fixed value for it?

Archit Agrawal - 5 years, 4 months ago

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@Archit Agrawal Did the question says that x + y x+y is a fixed value?

Pi Han Goh - 5 years, 4 months ago

That's wrong .It seems you got that luckily. :p

A Former Brilliant Member - 5 years, 4 months ago
Avi Solanki
Jan 26, 2016

Take X=1 y=1 .it satisfies the equation .and I agree wirh archit

Ravi Veeravalli
Jan 18, 2016

used this python program to get the answer:(this gives the values of x and y)

'' import math

for x in range(1,10): for y in range(1,10): if( math.sqrt(pow(x,2)+(2 y)+4) + math.sqrt(pow(x,2) + x + 5 -y) == math.sqrt(pow(x,2) + x + (3 y) + 2) + math.sqrt(pow(x,2)+(2*x)+3)): print(x); print(y); ''

Ayush Verma
Jan 17, 2016

I do not know proper solution,but

According to question (x+y) should be same for all solution.So I will use hit & trial

We can take x^2+2y+4 = x^2+x+3y+2 & x^2+x-y+5 = x^2+2x+3

After solving, x+y=2 & x+y=2

OR

x^2+2y+4 = x^2+2x+3 & x^2+x-y+5 = x^2+x+3y+2

After solving,x=5/4 & y=3/4 ; x+y=2

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