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Is 0.285714285714 285714 0.285714285714\overline {285714} rational?


Note: The notation 285714 " “\, \overline{285714}" indicates that these digits in the decimal are being repeated. For example, 0.1 2 = 0.12222 . 0.1\overline{2} = 0.12222 \ldots.

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Nihar Mahajan
Sep 10, 2015

Lets generalize this.Consider a decimal 0. a 1 a 2 a 3 a n 0.\overline{a_1a_2a_3\dots a_n} .Now lets prove that this is rational.So let

A = 0. a 1 a 2 a 3 a n ( 1 ) A=0.\overline{a_1a_2a_3\dots a_n} \dots (1)

If we multiply A A by 1 0 n 10^{n} , the decimal point gets shifted to left by n n places which gives us :

1 0 n × A = a 1 a 2 a 3 a n . a 1 a 2 a 3 a n ( 2 ) 10^n \times A = \overline{a_1a_2a_3\dots a_n} . \overline{a_1a_2a_3\dots a_n} \dots (2)

Now lets subtract 1 1 from 2 2 because that will make the right side of decimal as 0 0 . Thus we get:

1 0 n A A = a 1 a 2 a 3 a n A ( 1 0 n 1 ) = a 1 a 2 a 3 a n A = a 1 a 2 a 3 a n 1 0 n 1 10^n A - A = \overline{a_1a_2a_3\dots a_n} \\ \Rightarrow A(10^n - 1) = \overline{a_1a_2a_3\dots a_n} \\ \Rightarrow A = \dfrac{ \overline{a_1a_2a_3\dots a_n}}{10^n - 1}

Since A A can be clearly seen to be equal to p q \dfrac{p}{q} for p , q Z p,q \in \mathbb{Z} and q 0 q\neq 0 , we conclude that A A is rational.

In this problem a 1 = 2 , a 2 = 8 , a 3 = 5 , a 4 = 7 , a 5 = 1 , a 6 = 4 a_1=2 \ , \ a_2 = 8 \ , \ a_3 = 5 \ , \ a_4 = 7 \ , \ a_5 = 1 \ , \ a_6 = 4 and by our generalization we have 0. 285714 0.\overline{285714} as rational number :)

Good work. Up voted.

Rama Devi - 5 years, 9 months ago

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Thanks for the compliment.

Nihar Mahajan - 5 years, 9 months ago

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I think for a level 1 problem , such an explanation is not required.

Rama Devi - 5 years, 9 months ago

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@Rama Devi But there is no harm in giving more explanation.

Nihar Mahajan - 5 years, 9 months ago

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@Nihar Mahajan You could simply give the answer : ) :)

Rama Devi - 5 years, 9 months ago

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@Rama Devi Dont be so mean we are the students of @Nihar Mahajan !!

This Type of explanation are superb !! I also try my best to give such explanation to others so people like me would get some benefit .

Cheers,

Be Generous !!

Syed Baqir - 5 years, 9 months ago

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@Syed Baqir Excuse me , I am not a teacher , but a friend who likes to help others. I am just 14 and how could you say that you are a student of me? You are 5 years older than me and you are actually my teacher :)

Nihar Mahajan - 5 years, 9 months ago

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@Nihar Mahajan Well, I am speaking philosophy :D

What I said heave insight meaning, even a friend or anyone older or younger teaches he should be respected as teacher from my point of view .

If you talk about age it will be different :)

Syed Baqir - 5 years, 9 months ago

@Nihar Mahajan Keep it up Bhai, I also try my best to post solution so everyone would get benefit.

Syed Baqir - 5 years, 9 months ago

@Rama Devi A level 1 student would need an explanation for the answer to a level 1 problem.

Brian Egedy - 5 years ago

Well done.

Anelize Theron van Biljon - 5 years, 9 months ago

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Then why don't you up vote?

Rama Devi - 5 years, 9 months ago

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Why do u bother..

Venkata Nikhil - 5 years, 5 months ago

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@Venkata Nikhil because its human tendency to up vote good work.If you are not a human, don't bother.

Rama Devi - 5 years, 5 months ago

Very Well Explained

Syed Baqir - 5 years, 9 months ago

What will happen if we have :

XY . \huge . a 1 , a 2 , . . . . a n a_{1} , a_{2} , .... a_{n} where X and Y are constants ?

Thank you my friend :D

Syed Baqir - 5 years, 9 months ago

Is 0.142857285714285714285714....... rational?

a t - 2 months, 4 weeks ago

If it is rational number, let's check:

A = 0. 285714 A= 0. \overline{285714}

1000000 A = 285714. 285714 1000000A= 285714.\overline{285714}

1000000 A A = 285714 1000000A-A= 285714

999999 A = 285714 999999A=285714

285714 999999 = 2 7 \frac{285714}{999999}=\boxed{\frac{2}{7}}

You may want to fix the last line as 278514 is not correspond to the second to last one.

Kay Xspre - 5 years, 9 months ago

2/7 is rational dummy

Jared Beaufait - 4 years, 4 months ago
Alan Yan
Sep 11, 2015

This is simply 285714 999999 \frac{285714}{999999} which implies it is rational.

Joel Yip
Apr 22, 2016

If a number has finite recurring decimals, it is rational.

Mehul Arora
Sep 10, 2015

0. 285714 = 0.285714285714....... 0.\overline {285714}=0.285714285714.......

A number IS a rational number if it repeats a sequence of finite digits over and over.

0. 285714 Q \huge \therefore 0.\overline {285714} \in \mathbb{Q}

That is true. An irrational number will be 0.285714285714428571444...

Anelize Theron van Biljon - 5 years, 9 months ago

How you know it is repeat itself ? because in the question we have a part of it ?

Syed Baqir - 5 years, 9 months ago

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Mehul Arora is pointing out that the line above the number indicates that it repeats. It's the method of expressing that information.

Brian Egedy - 5 years ago
Xuande Wang
Apr 1, 2018

1/7=0.142857142857... 2/7=0.285714285714... 3/7=0.428571428571... 也就是说以7为分母的分数的循环结构由1、4、2、8、5、7构成 It's interesting.

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Mar 20, 2021

All repeating decimals are all rational numbers.

0.285714285714 = 0. 2 ˙ 8571 4 ˙ = 285714 999999 = 2 × 142857 7 × 142857 = 2 × 142857 1 7 × 142857 1 = 2 7 \displaystyle 0.285714285714\cdots = 0.\dot 2 8571 \dot 4 = \frac { 285714 } { 999999 } = \frac { 2 \times 142857 } { 7 \times 142857 } = \frac { 2 \times \cancel { 142857 } ^ { 1 } } { 7 \times \cancel { 142857 } _ { 1 } } = \frac { 2 } { 7 } .

If a decimal repeats, it is rational.

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